Massive Fairy Tail CRT (with upgrades and downgrades for some characters)

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Zeref Scales above August and Irene and to Igneel's Flames Natsu

FDKM Natsu is the One who beat Jacob

 

[KobsterHope07]

Oh, my mistake, no complaints here then

 

[BlackeJan]

Um Gray uses DS when his curse Mark starts to form. Also again can someone tell me how the Post 1st Timeskip = 7-B (was it DS Gray feat that got him that?)

Yes Dragnification Natsu = END

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Base Gray Performed the feat of Melting the Ice in the Sun Village Arc, which is a Low 7-B feat, so since he dis that, it scales to all the Base forms of the GMG and higher

 

[BlackeJan]

Wait but hes an ice mage so wouldnt that honestly not work then? i mean ice mage getting rid of ice and all

 

[Captain_Torch]

@BlackeJan

He melted the ice, not just made it dissapear

 

[BlackeJan]

Well yeah thats what ive meant in that regard. An ice mage getting rid of the ice

Thats like Natsu eating fire

 

[Captain_Torch]

It just hit me, that since there is a calc of melting the eternal flame, then we can also calc Silver freezing the eternal flame(along with the village)

So since I'm on a roll recently, I did just that:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Captain_Torch/Silver_Freezing_the_Eternal_Flame

Unsure whether or not to use the temperatures of the base or the top of the flames though

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

That feat is consistent with the 7-B's

 

[Captain_Torch]

I probably should use a middle ground between the base and top temperatures of the flame, for a safe middle ground. It will also make the result slightly higher

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Since this was a super casual Silver, shouldn't all the Gates scale to 7-B in Base rather than High 7-C (which may not be a thing anymore), Low 7-B at least?

 

[Captain_Torch]

@AnonymousBlank

We don't know how casual he was. For all we know he went all out cause he wanted to kill the "Demon"(Atlas Flame)

Also, I don't think that all the demon gates scale to Silver. Silver was consistently one of the strongest - with only Kyoka being possibly stronger than him.

So I'm not sure who this would even scale to. But definetly not to all the demon gates.

 

[BlackeJan]

Well we can also assume that he froze the town little by little....see where that can lead to?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Didn't he just see Atlas and was like "DEMON!" and then flash freeze all of it?

 

[Captain_Torch]

@BlackeJan

It was implied that Silver did it in one strike. That's how his flash freeze works actually. Also IIRC Atlas Flame said that he freezed the village in an instant or something

 

[BlackeJan]

Link?

 

[Davidsteel1]

Didn't Silver say he froze the town by accident? If that's the case it'll be far more likely that he did it in one move instead of overtime- overtime would suggest deliberate and conscious action.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Looking at the FT profiles, why is Future Rogue only High 7-C when he is stronger than the one who was fighting in the Alvarez Arc? (Yes I know this would cause scaling issues galore)

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

PIS^

Normal Rogue is Stronger than Future One, It's just dumb how the Rogue who must have spent Years training to dight Dragons, is weaker than the Rogue who fought a Historia Spriggan, which isn't much weaker than the main Spriggans

 

[The_Calaca]

It's not the first time that a character could mess the scaling. Same thing happens with Gildarts being 7-A in Tenrojima.

 

[1997KD]

@BlackeJan

It was implied that Silver did it in one strike. That's how his flash freeze works actually. Also IIRC Atlas Flame said that he freezed the village in an instant or something

+ he said he freeze whole village just to kill atlash flame, also he freeze the village the same way he freeze battlefield during his and gray fight

 

[Captain_Torch]

Honestly, I'm still unsure if Tenrou Natsu scales to Zancrow or not. Zabcrow was stomping natsu, but Natsu tanked Zancrow's roar, which is the calc

 

[Captain_Torch]

Also, since there can never be too many calcs:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Captain_Torch/Azuma_burning_down_the_Tenrou_Tree_roots

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

You just made 5 calcs in the soan of like 3 days, dude you have my respect, also Tenrou Island Natsu would likely scale to inbetween the Gray Ice Walk feat and Zancrow

 

[BlackeJan]

I also don't know about Natsu scaling to Zancrow cause yeah the latter was getting stomped and he had won to also dying/risking all his MP to eat Zamcrows

 

[Captain_Torch]

@Aubin

Thanks man!

@BlackeJan

Yeah, probably right. This should scale to Natsu's fire resistance though, since he did tank the said attack.

Also, we could add Natsu's God Flame version, which would scale to Zancrow's feat

 

[BlackeJan]

Didn't GF Natsu one shot Zancrow?

 

[Captain_Torch]

Oh whoops my bad, I meant that GF Natsu would scale to Zancrow

 

[BlackeJan]

Yeah but didn't he one shot? Wait....if Natsu empties his MP and ate GF....then how was that a Boost for Natsu?!

 

[Captain_Torch]

Because Zancrow was stronger than Natsu? You don't really make sense atm

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Well wouldn't Azuma's Feat Scale to all of the 7 Kin, and Natsu would scale to them which would mean that they would stay High 7-C, that is, if your calc gets accepted

 

[Captain_Torch]

@Aubin

Azuma achieved that level of Power only after absorbing all of Tenrou's power, which is a one time powerup only.

So no Kin scales to that.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Alright fair enough, so wouldn't Ultear scale to Znacrow due to being the leader and strongest member of the kin, and Natsu and Gray damaged her, so wouldn't that make them scale to Zancrows Feat

 

[Captain_Torch]

Don't know tbh.. Gray and Natsu were both quite below Ultear and Zancrow. Natsu beat Zancrow via absorbing BS, and Ultear basically forfeit against Gray

 

[BlackeJan]

Because Zancrow was stronger than Natsu? You don't really make sense atm

If was more of a joke....I'm saying that he empties his own MP and basically replaces it instead of adding it with GF yet Zancrow also has GF so it would make ya wonder how Natsu when his own fire is gone so it can't add up with GF

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I mean they still damaged them, for one Natsu wouldn't be resistant to God Flames, so that would make his normal Durability scale to the attack, and Gray Messed Ultear up with his Seven Slice Dance once he got past her hax, also Natsu did Damage Kain who should also scale to Zancrow

I think it's fair to make them scale, they would still be 7-C regardless, but 33 Kilotons instead of 7 Kilotons

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Well, I think we can begin the edits, we pretty much have every tier decided, Pre Timeskip Natsu will still be 7-C, and everyone will be the same tier just a different level of power in said tier

 

[BlackeJan]

Just in case u might wanna make that list again so we KNOW that we good this time

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

FINAL SCALING

All Pre Timeskip High 7-C's go down to 7-C

Strongest Armors Erza and Azuma could become High 7-C depending on if Captains Calc gets accepted

All Post 1st Timeskip High 7-C's go to Low 7-B+

All Low 7-B+'s go to 7-B

ALVAREZ ARC:

At least 7-C: Cana, Levy, Max, Warren, Alzack, Bisca, Romeo, Human Carla, Yuka, Yukino, Rufus, Orga, Millianna, Bacchus

7-A: Lucy, Base Wendy, Juvia, Cana with Fairy Glitter, Elfman, Lisanna, Evergreen, Bickslow, Freed, Ichiya, Loke, Lyon, Makarov, Base Sherria, Meredy, Pantherlily, Kagura, Bluenote, Ikusa-Tsunagi

At least 7-A: Jura, Wolfheim, Hyberion, Warrod, Midnight, Cobra, Angel, Hoteye, Racer, Juliet Sun, Heine Lunasea, Marin Hollow, Base Gray

Likely High 7-A: DF Wendy, Mavis

High 7-A: Base Natsu, Base Gajeel, Gray with Devil Slayer Magic, Standard Armor Erza, Mirajane, Sting, Rogue, Minerva, Brandish, Ajeel, Jacob, Neinhart, Invel, Bloodman, Wall, Dimaria, God Serena, Third Origin Sherria, Base Animus, Zash, Doll, Gapri, Swan, Kyria

Likely 6-C: END Natsu, Dragon Force Gajeel, Devil Slayer Curse Mark Gray

6-C: FDKM Natsu, Strongest Armors Erza, Laxus, Jellal, WSDM Sting, Larcade, Base August, Human Irene

At least 6-C, possibly higher: Dragonification Natsu, Dragon Cry Powered Animus (Possibly higher is due to absorbing Dragon Cry's power, which is a huge Magic Source)

 

[Captain_Torch]

Actually, not all post 1st timeskip High 7-C characters scale to Low 7-B. Some, like Bacchus and elfman for example, should scale to pretimeskip erza, a.k.a High 7-C(if it's accepted)