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Resistance to existence erasure seems fine to add to Thor then.
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Marvel Comics - Thor Shaking the Realms of the World Tree
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Maybe, but given that many of them are regular Thor enemies, we would have to scale those characters to 2-C instead in that case, even Ulik, so we need a certain amount of flexibility in that regard for practical reasons.
Also, again, Thor's usually fighting against enemies far below his weight class is usually canonically explained in-story by him greatly "holding back his full power" against them.
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From which comic book is this? Also, just because they channelled the power cosmic, this does not mean that they were remotely equal in raw power to the Silver Surfer any more than the Silver Surfer is equal to Galactus.
Hulk will definitely keep his variable tier, given that it is canonical.
This might work, yes. In case Thor was not holding back.
You need to provide a story issue reference for this as well, and also link to images in a way so they can be viewed by simply clicking on them from another site, and Fandom has defences against doing so. Imgur would probably work better in this regard.
It seems like everybody can fight everybody outliers to me. My apologies.
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Yes.
Yes.
If that is the Dark-Crawler feat, yes I suppose so.
An image-link would be appreciated.
Probably yes.
It could just be High 3-A, given how vague the statement is.
To me that seemed like hyperbole for a 3-C feat.
Yes.
Yes.
Uncertain. The Marvel Universe is recurrently portrayed as finite in size as well.
Isn't that just resistance to existence erasure? Please explain further.
No. That is not what happened in the original Onslaught storyline. It seems like an unreliable retelling intended to make fun of overenthusiastic fans of the character.
Yes. That is likely also fine to use.
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That seems like symbolic or allegorical flowery language due to the Ultimate Thor's universe having died at the time, and War Thor using his hammer.
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Can you provide working image links please? I cannot use them.
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Most likely
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So if this all goes through, what would the tiering look like?
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I definitely think “3-C up to 2-C” would work, hyperion has 2-C durability, thor showed 2 9 realm destroying feats and other feats back that up.
After all, that CRT would be just telling people that 2-C isnt something the heralds cant reach
The main problem is, who is scaling to 3-C and who is scaling to 2-C.
After all, that CRT would be just telling people that 2-C isnt something the heralds cant reach
The main problem is, who is scaling to 3-C and who is scaling to 2-C.
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Yes, that seems to be the main problem here. Insightful constructive input would be very appreciated.
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Here are some lists of Marvel Comics pages with different tiers that may be useful for finding the pages that you are looking for much more easily:
vsbattles.fandom.com
Antvasima/DPL
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Yeah
Alot of people here definitely dont scale to 2-C
Alot of people here definitely dont scale to 2-C
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Thor
Hulk
Hyperion
Possibly Gladiator at peak (confidence issues)
Hercules
Beta Ray Bill
Thanos
Silver Surfer
Galactus
Sentry
And possibly Dr Doom
Most characters we mentioned have 3-C scaling already
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Yes.
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So 3-C is still gonna be a thing in the other profiles you didn't mentioned like for example Godzilla?
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Yeah, what about the lizard boy?
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So if we’ve settled on 2-C, have we decided on how many universes into 2-C these characters will be?
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I'm asking to Excel616 if Godzilla still scales to Hercules 3-C key.
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The Destroyer and Mangog definitely should be 2-C as well
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9-10 spacetimes probably
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Yes, he scales to 3-C Hercules key because the only herald characters who will be 2-C are characters with their own Universal feat, characters with canon varies mechanism like Hulk's anger, Sentry's mental state and possibly Kallark's confidence and High herald characters like Thanos and Galactus.
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Neat... thanks.
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Probably, the dude consistently stomps Thor.
Ngl, I kinda want to return Ultron's All-Father Ultron Key so that we have a 2-A Ultron.
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Wouldn't it be 9 because Yggdrasil?
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Probably, but it's kinda weird that his current rating is "At least 5-B, likely 3-C" if that's the case
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This makes me sad, because so many of the characters that beat on Thor on Earth and in crossover comics would get absolutely merked if the writers remembered Thor's abilities. There's no way that Ultron or Sentry are getting up after a Godblast
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A little bit unrelated but I'll ask this here since we're talking about Thor
Old King Thor is listed as 3-A in every key but some sections are rated at Tier 2 or 1, what is the correct Tier for him ? I believe there is a editing mistake on his profile
Old King Thor is listed as 3-A in every key but some sections are rated at Tier 2 or 1, what is the correct Tier for him ? I believe there is a editing mistake on his profile
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He was downgraded to be 3-A / Universe level. I guess I didn't actually finish editing him before Ant locked his page
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The ****?
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Old King Thor's page is a mess. He's supposedly so close to Thor-616's timeline that he would be erased if younger Thor died, but he apparently doesn't scale to the Odinforce or the universal Phoenix Force because...his timeline is too different?
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He doesn't scale to Phoenix Force's 2-A/Low 1-C because of the Phoenix Force revision, where only a few hosts are at that level
And he doesn't scale to the 2-A Odinforce because Confluctor
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Better if we leave his scaling for another thread then guys, this one is already hard enough
Let's just fix his current accepted ratings
Let's just fix his current accepted ratings
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Didn't Logan have the full power of the Phoenix Force and kill Celestials, though?
That's absurd, but like @Lightning_XXI said we should save it for another thread.
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If there is a statement about that, I can't find it. I did find Logan saying that the PF only chose him as an avatar because it had no other choice and they were never exactly friends
Wasn't that Ego the Necroworld?
Yeah, never really fully agreed with him either
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Alright, i think i can start making the 2-C upgrade thread this Thursday, the only problem is, i want people to review the thread before posting it
How can i do that?
How can i do that?
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