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If Gorr merged universes, "At least 2-C" seems like reasonable tiering, yes, but can somebody link to scans for it please?I have no clue, maybe we can scale him to Gorr's universe merging? Idk
@ConfluctorIf Gorr merged universes, "At least 2-C" seems like reasonable tiering, yes, but can somebody link to scans for it please?
Wouldn't it be better to just give them the same tiering as Odin? Or at least Odin's upper level.
We already went through this. It's alt reality and cross continuity scaling for them don't work them same as it does for verse constants like PF
Okay. No problem. Please elaborate regarding their greatest feats, so we can scale from that instead.
I have no clue, maybe we can scale him to Gorr's universe merging? Idk
If Gorr merged universes, "At least 2-C" seems like reasonable tiering, yes, but can somebody link to scans for it please?
@Eficiente @Qawsedf234 @SuperAPM @Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepme @Ehnkr2beboh @Deagonx @Elizio33 @LordTracer @MarvelFanatic119 @catzlaflame @Armorchompy @Alonik @Gasper @Chariot190I don't have the scans on me, I am afraid, so no idea what to do about their tiering rn
It's on his profile, no? Gorr became one with the entire universe. He doesn't merge multiple universes, so it's not a 2-C featIf Gorr merged universes, "At least 2-C" seems like reasonable tiering, yes, but can somebody link to scans for it please?
Okay, so should he and Old King Thor be 3-A or Low 2-C then?It's on his profile, no? Gorr became one with the entire universe. He doesn't merge multiple universes, so it's not a 2-C feat
I do not know, maybe he should get a variable tier matching Odin's as well?By the way, Cul Borson stays at 2-C, right? Because the justification that "Odin also later had to personally keep him imprisoned by devoting his full power to the task" sounds a bit like 2-A (or maybe that's just me)
I think that could work, since he does gain power from absorbing fear and he's not always 2-C/2-A, if I'm not wrongI do not know, maybe he should get a variable tier matching Odin's as well?
We already went through this. There is no reason for that and rarely any evidence for scalingOdin and Old King Thor scaling to each other should be fine.
Wait, really? Crap... Is OKT scaling to the smaller Phoenix Force still fine?We already went through this. There is no reason for that and rarely any evidence for scaling
What kind of universe merging would warrant either of those tiers?Okay, so should he and Old King Thor be 3-A or Low 2-C then?
I know. I'm asking what would make Gorr's single universe merging 3-A and what would make it Low 2-C?I thought that you said that he became one with a single universe and that's it.
Ah, thanks for clarifying. I'm reading through the issue and it seems like it's just the physical aspect of the universeI meant that being one with all of universal space-time is usually considered to be a Low 2-C feat as a default, but being one with just the physical aspect of a universe without time involved is just 3-A.
It's just changing the current "2-A, possibly Low 1-C" down to 3-A, right?So is anybody here willing to update Gorr and Old King Thor accordingly please,
Making Cul Borson's tier either "Varies, up to 2-A" or "Varies from 3-C to 2-A". Though I'm not sure what the 3-C justification would beand what else is left to do here?
it won`t even be 3A. Most of the universe was already destroyed by entropyIt's just changing the current "2-A, possibly Low 1-C" down to 3-A, right?
I think so, yes, but you need to explain the reasoning as well.It's just changing the current "2-A, possibly Low 1-C" down to 3-A, right?
Thor was able to almost kill him during the "Fear Itself" event.Making Cul Borson's tier either "Varies, up to 2-A" or "Varies from 3-C to 2-A". Though I'm not sure what the 3-C justification would be
Okay, but we scale 3-A from the observable universe and upwards.it won`t even be 3A. Most of the universe was already destroyed by entropy
most of the universe has already been claimed by entropy. The universer gorr merged with isn`t the full size of the universe. It won`t be 3AOkay, but we scale 3-A from the observable universe and upwards.
Thor did kill him during that event, no? And isn’t currently agreed that it’s because of prophecy stuff + Odinsword?Thor was able to almost kill him during the "Fear Itself" event.
Plus, wasn’t it during that event that Cul became powerful enough to slaughter Odin and scare Mephisto?
- Thor needed a specific weapon that Odin wielded in order to kill Cul. We consider this sword, and a specific prophecy to be the reasons why Thor could defeat his much more powerful uncle.