Marvel Comics: High 3-A Heralds Upgrade

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

According to the God physiology page, yes:

Yeah, I've seen it. I do agree that they are strong enough points to warrant a Low 1-C. However, the infinite distance thing isn't needed.

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

I agree with the upgrade.

 

[Excellence616]

None of the supporting feats really support a 2-A rating, they all seem to hover around High 3-A/Low 2-C. I’m gonna need a lot more than that to sign off on such a massive upgrade for so many characters.

All High 3-A Heralds should be upgraded to Low 1-C.

Feat:

• Eric (Thunderstrike) clash with Dargo Ktor (Future Thor) unleashed mystical energy across all planes of existence, and fully powered a machine that could collapse infinite timelines into one (Mighty Thor Vol 1 #438) two in one feat
• Thor spins Mjolnir and matches Bill spinning Stormbreaker on Earth, creating a vortex to overpower the cosmic storms surrounding Asgard, sending its army back home (Mighty Thor #359)
• Thor spins Mjolnir to conquer the cosmic storms between Asgard and Midgard under his own power (Mighty Thor #373)
• Thor created a storm so powerful that its winds reached the Earth from Asgard (Thor Vol 1 #188)
• Thor and Hercules threatened to destroy the heavens (Heavens in this context is Olympus) (Thor: Blood Oath #3)
• Thor wrestled with the World-Serpent while it was bridging the gap between Asgard and the Earth with its length. (Thor Vol. 1 #327)
• Thor's battle with another Thor shook Asgard and Midgard (Thor: The Trial of Thor)
• Note: The God realms are noted to be 5-D or higher. Asgard is stated to be a higher realm than Midgard, from Thor #321 and the laws of the mortal plane are much different than those of the immortal planes, and the mortal plane is much a smaller place where immortals have to exist in the forms of apparitions and never their true forms. which all point to God realms being a higher plane of existence.
• Hiro-Kala can creates a field of Old Power powerful enough to cover the distance between two universes, blocking the Enigma Force from being used. (Incredible Hulks- Enigma Force #1)

Supporting Feats:

• Hercules claimed to have enough power to shake the universe (Thor v1 130)
• The Hulk's power is capable of ravaging Worlds (Incredible Hulk Vol 1 #300)
• Thor shakes the heavens (Thor Vol.1 #161)
• Thor and Odin rendered the heavens asunder. (Thor: Man of War)
• The Power between Thor and Hercules' fists is enough to demolish world (Avengers Vol 1 #100)

 

[Eseseso]

Is Asgard and other realms consistently treated as being beyond the time-space to render a 5D rating?

If the distance between Midgard and Asgard is infinite then how does that supplement 5D? That's simply an additional space of 4D.

What @Ser_Hakim_Dayne said, plus this:

That reminds me, I found another scan for the HDE of Gods that I never got around to adding to the God Physiology page:

The laws of the mortal plane are much different than those of the immortal planes, and the mortal plane is much a smaller place where immortals have to exist in the forms of apparitions and never their true forms.

From Ghost Rider Vol. 6 #4

Also,

Asgard is stated to be a higher realm than Midgard, from Thor #321

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

What @Ser_Hakim_Dayne said, plus this:

I've for the most part agreed with the OP. You can count me as agreeing.

 

[Excellence616]

I want to add some things

Gods like Zeus and Odin as well as Hell lords should scale to peak Heralds.

Jormungand profile would as be affected in LS. He should also have Large size 8 - 9 since we are using him as one of the scans for scaling.

 

[GoldenVortex94]

Agree with all

 

[Eseseso]

Which Heralds asides from Thor people would scale to Low 1-C at peak?

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Which Heralds asides from Thor people would scale to Low 1-C at peak?

Sentry, Gladiator, Hyperion, Blue Marvel all come to mind the same with the Surfer, Red Hulk, Beta Ray Bill, Captain Marvel, and whatnot.

 

[Eseseso]

Sentry, Gladiator, Hyperion, Blue Marvel all come to mind the same with the Surfer, Red Hulk, Beta Ray Bill, Captain Marvel, and whatnot.

Low 1-C Ultron?

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Low 1-C Ultron?

Any being more powerful or on the level of the Herald’s get boosted up as well.

 

[Excellence616]

Which Heralds asides from Thor people would scale to Low 1-C at peak?

I am about to post a sandbox for those who scale

 

[FinePoint]

This seems to make sense to me, so my official vote is approval, but like those before me I'd urge caution in deciding who exactly scales to this.

 

[Excellence616]

This seems to make sense to me, so my official vote is approval, but like those before me I'd urge caution in deciding who exactly scales to this.

Yeah. I am always careful when scaling Heralds.

Thank you for the input

 

[Excellence616]

Excellence616/List Of Marvel Heralds Characters

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If i missed any Gods, Hellords or High 3-A characters, please feel free to add them

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Excellence616/List Of Marvel Heralds Characters

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You forgot about Red Ronin, who scales from Godzilla. Also, his speed should be updated to Likely Massively FTL+ scaling from Godzilla.

 

[MadeByZiggy]

Agree with OP

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I also agree

 

[HenshinIntervention]

Everything seems fine here

 

[Eseseso]

Excellence616/List Of Marvel Heralds Characters

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If i missed any Gods, Hellords or High 3-A characters, please feel free to add them

Not technically High 3-A, but Doctor Doom's magic shielding currently goes up to High 3-A in durability via scaling to Wolverine's claws.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Btw, I also agree with OP

 

[Excellence616]

Bump

 

[Theglassman12]

Looks ok at a glance

 

[Hellbeast]

Low 1-C Ultron?

Ultron vs Ultron is fun

 

[Excellence616]

Looks ok at a glance

Thank You

 

[Excellence616]

Looks ok at a glance

This seems to make sense to me, so my official vote is approval, but like those before me I'd urge caution in deciding who exactly scales to this.

Since God Realms are accepted as 5D, I see no issues with Low 1-C.

Sorry for quoting you guys but:

Also, since Thor wrestled with the World-Serpent and the World Serpent encompass Asgard (5-D) to Midgard, High 3-A herald would also be Immeasurable Lifting Strength (5-D).

I want to add some things

Gods like Zeus and Odin as well as Hell lords should scale to peak Heralds.

Jormungand profile would as be affected in LS. He should also have Large size 8 - 9 since we are using him as one of the scans for scaling.

I added somethings

 

[Elizhaa]

The proposals look fine.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I added somethings

Sure.

 

[Theglassman12]

Looks ok

 

[Excellence616]

The proposals look fine.

Sure.

Looks ok

Thank you for your inputs