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Ares is 5-B
He really isn't. World War Hulk took him out with a single strike, and The Sentry ripped him apart.That makes zero sense considering his profile literally says he is comparable to Thor and Hercules.
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Ares is 5-B
He really isn't. World War Hulk took him out with a single strike, and The Sentry ripped him apart.That makes zero sense considering his profile literally says he is comparable to Thor and Hercules.
Then his profile needs a big change.He really isn't. World War Hulk took him out with a single strike, and The Sentry ripped him apart.
That works.Well, the robot Hulk is an unknown factor, and we do not know what level the writers portrayed the other characters at the time, but I suppose that "At least 3-C, possibly 2-C; 2-A with force fields" durability might work, in lack of better options.
Yes, agreed. Is somebody here willing to handle it?Then his profile needs a big change.
Okay.That works.
Please elaborate.And as I said before, in no way does his normal AP scale.
His durability feats are ridiculously higher than his regular non-prep AP feats, and most people who are >= to his AP like Ironman have been unable to break his armor with their own power.Please elaborate.
Sorry. I misread earlier. I agree with you assessment.His durability feats are ridiculously higher than his regular non-prep AP feats, and most people who are >= to his AP like Ironman have been unable to break his armor with their own power.
Please explain further what you have in mind.Well, i will start working on the sandbox today
Alright, if anyone has the time, can someone list the times heralds have kept up with 2-C level characters with scans, sources or both?
Thank you
Odin is currently "Varies from 3-C to 2-A". He doesn't have a 2-C rating anymoreScaling chains to characters who are already accepted as 2-C (Odin, galactus, mephisto ect.)
Doesn't that “varies" tier include 2-C?Odin is currently "Varies from 3-C to 2-A". He doesn't have a 2-C rating anymore
2-C is in-between 3-C and 2-A, but a character can't just scale to Odin and assume it's 2-C but not another tier without an actual reasoning.Doesn't that “varies" tier include 2-C?
I mean considering how much stuff 2-A Thor has, a 2-A thread is definitely gonna be made after this.Oh, well, we cant have 2-C and 2-A scaling in the same thread.
I listed the Dr. Doom stuff above (including stuff currently on his profile), but I can list it again if you want.But again, if anyone doesn't mind, can people list all the times heralds have kept up with (already) 2-C characters?
That have consistently kept up with them.Alright, if anyone has the time, can someone list the times heralds have kept up with 2-C level characters with scans, sources or both?
Thank you
Again, for safety reasons we should only scale him to his own explicit power display feats, of which the most impressive are 2-C, so I would much prefer if we follow our explicit rules and avoid chain-scaling. Thank you.I mean considering how much stuff 2-A Thor has, a 2-A thread is definitely gonna be made after this.
For gods sakes, I keep repeating myself regarding this issue, and overenthusiastic upgrade proponents keep ignoring it year in and year out:Yes, now, how many times have current 3-C characters kept up with these (currently accepted) 2-C characters (surtr, galactus, mephiso ect.)
I'll wait until this thread concludes so then we can discuss 2-A scaling.Again, for safety reasons we should only scale him to his own explicit power display feats, of which the most impressive are 2-C, so I would much prefer if we follow our explicit rules and avoid chain-scaling. Thank you.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean we can't use scaling ever. If the characters have enough feats on that level themselves, then there is nothing wrong with using scaling to 2-C characters as supporting evidence.
Yes, I think that is probably fine.That being said, we should do that later and focus on direct feats for now
We have, i have around 9 feats that put thor within the range of 2-C (that being said, if anyone has solid Universal feats for heralds please put them here)That being said, we should do that later and focus on direct feats for now
I don't think Silver Surfer has any Tier 2 feats outside of powerscaling, but I could very well be wrongAlso, Thor, Hulk, and Hyperion all seem to have explicit tier 2 feats, but does Silver Surfer or any other regular Marvel characters have them as well, and if so, which ones? Take note that I do not mean via powerscaling in this case.
Okay. Thank you for the information.I don't think Silver Surfer has any Tier 2 feats outside of powerscaling, but I could very well be wrong
It seems good to me at least. Thank you for helping out.Btw, I also made a sandbox to clean up Mangog's profile and add some scans. Is there anything else I could add/improve?
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wow that profile is trash rnBtw, I also made a sandbox to clean up Mangog's profile and add some scans. Is there anything else I could add/improve?
Marvel Champion 07/Mangog Sandbox
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Agreedwow that profile is trash rn
Thankswell probably more references would help it more that being the sealing scan comes from Thor #159, lifting strength scan comes from Thor #156 and the last one is the dura section comes from Mighty Thor #703.