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Marvel Comics - Thor Shaking the Realms of the World Tree

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Antvasima said:
He really isn't. World War Hulk took him out with a single strike, and The Sentry ripped him apart.
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Then his profile needs a big change.

Antvasima said:
Well, the robot Hulk is an unknown factor, and we do not know what level the writers portrayed the other characters at the time, but I suppose that "At least 3-C, possibly 2-C; 2-A with force fields" durability might work, in lack of better options.
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That works.

And as I said before, in no way does his normal AP scale.
 
Eseseso said:
His durability feats are ridiculously higher than his regular non-prep AP feats, and most people who are >= to his AP like Ironman have been unable to break his armor with their own power.
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Sorry. I misread earlier. I agree with you assessment.
 
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Alright, if anyone has the time, can someone list the times heralds have kept up with 2-C level characters with scans, sources or both?
Thank you
 
NHTkenshin2 said:
Alright, if anyone has the time, can someone list the times heralds have kept up with 2-C level characters with scans, sources or both?
Thank you
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Sentry: Fought On par with Green Scar who is stronger than Savage Hulk
World War Hulk #1



World War Hulk #5

Thor: tanks the unbinding stone resistance to existence erasure

Thor: The deviants saga #5
 
Scaling chains to characters who are already accepted as 2-C (Odin, galactus, mephisto ect.) Not the “will be upgraded to 2-C” guys

Also please post the imgur links inside texts, i have a problem with imgur posts like yours.
 
Oh, well, we cant have 2-C and 2-A scaling in the same thread.
But again, if anyone doesn't mind, can people list all the times heralds have kept up with (already) 2-C characters?
 
NHTkenshin2 said:
Oh, well, we cant have 2-C and 2-A scaling in the same thread.
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I mean considering how much stuff 2-A Thor has, a 2-A thread is definitely gonna be made after this.
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But again, if anyone doesn't mind, can people list all the times heralds have kept up with (already) 2-C characters?
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I listed the Dr. Doom stuff above (including stuff currently on his profile), but I can list it again if you want.
 
Again, that would be the 2-C that comes after the upgrade, i am referring to current 2-C characters (galactus and mephisto for example)
 
I think(?) it's from Surtur

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Surtur (Marvel Comics)

A fiery demon from the extra-dimensional realm of Muspelheim, Surtur is the sworn enemy of the Asgardian Skyfather Odin and his son Thor. Tier: 3-C | High 1-B Key: Base | With the Eternal Flame and Twilight Sword Name: Surtur Origin: Marvel Comics Age: Billions of years (created the moon)...
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Yes, now, how many times have current 3-C characters kept up with these (currently accepted) 2-C characters (surtr, galactus, mephiso ect.)
 
NHTkenshin2 said:
Alright, if anyone has the time, can someone list the times heralds have kept up with 2-C level characters with scans, sources or both?
Thank you
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That have consistently kept up with them.
 
Eseseso said:
I mean considering how much stuff 2-A Thor has, a 2-A thread is definitely gonna be made after this.
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Again, for safety reasons we should only scale him to his own explicit power display feats, of which the most impressive are 2-C, so I would much prefer if we follow our explicit rules and avoid chain-scaling. Thank you.
 
NHTkenshin2 said:
Yes, now, how many times have current 3-C characters kept up with these (currently accepted) 2-C characters (surtr, galactus, mephiso ect.)
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For gods sakes, I keep repeating myself regarding this issue, and overenthusiastic upgrade proponents keep ignoring it year in and year out:

Marvel Comics fundamentally runs on the "rule of cool" "everybody can fight everybody" plot convention, almost regardless how little logical sense it makes.

We all desperately need to keep this constantly in mind when deciding the tiers for such characters, and use their own feats, and those of characters that they are always consistently able to match or overpower, for safety reasons, rather than use chain-scaling for everybody, or we will eventually end up with upgrading all tier 9 and 8 Marvel Comics characters to 1-A.

I would extremely greatly appreciate if you all make an effort to please help me out in this regard, rather than continuously fight me every step of the way whenever you get the chance, just because you want to make your favourite characters as seemingly (falsely) powerful as possible, regardless how ridiculously unreliable and misleading our Marvel Comics pages turn as a consequence.

Thank you in advance for any help.
 
Antvasima said:
Again, for safety reasons we should only scale him to his own explicit power display feats, of which the most impressive are 2-C, so I would much prefer if we follow our explicit rules and avoid chain-scaling. Thank you.
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I'll wait until this thread concludes so then we can discuss 2-A scaling.
 
ObberGobb said:
Yeah, but that doesn't mean we can't use scaling ever. If the characters have enough feats on that level themselves, then there is nothing wrong with using scaling to 2-C characters as supporting evidence.
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That being said, we should do that later and focus on direct feats for now
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Yes, I think that is probably fine.
 
ObberGobb said:
That being said, we should do that later and focus on direct feats for now
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We have, i have around 9 feats that put thor within the range of 2-C (that being said, if anyone has solid Universal feats for heralds please put them here)


I am now, asking someone knowledgeable to write a list everytime heralds have kept up with 2-C guys
I beg you people, this is my 4th post😭
 
I would also greatly appreciate serious help with getting this project properly organised. I can give input regarding if it seems sensible that characters scale or not, meaning if they are sufficiently consistently portrayed as comparable.

Also, Thor, Hulk, and Hyperion all seem to have explicit tier 2 feats, but does Silver Surfer or any other regular Marvel characters have them as well, and if so, which ones? Take note that I do not mean via powerscaling in this case.
 
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Antvasima said:
Also, Thor, Hulk, and Hyperion all seem to have explicit tier 2 feats, but does Silver Surfer or any other regular Marvel characters have them as well, and if so, which ones? Take note that I do not mean via powerscaling in this case.
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I don't think Silver Surfer has any Tier 2 feats outside of powerscaling, but I could very well be wrong
 
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MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer said:
I don't think Silver Surfer has any Tier 2 feats outside of powerscaling, but I could very well be wrong
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Okay. Thank you for the information.

I would still greatly appreciate if somebody writes a wiki blog post that rationally evaluates which characters that should scale to what.
MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer said:
Btw, I also made a sandbox to clean up Mangog's profile and add some scans. Is there anything else I could add/improve?
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Marvel Champion 07/Mangog Sandbox

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It seems good to me at least. Thank you for helping out.
 
MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer said:
Btw, I also made a sandbox to clean up Mangog's profile and add some scans. Is there anything else I could add/improve?
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Marvel Champion 07/Mangog Sandbox

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wow that profile is trash rn

well probably more references would help it more that being the sealing scan comes from Thor #159, lifting strength scan comes from Thor #156 and the last one is the dura section comes from Mighty Thor #703.
 
Since nothing seems to happen here, and given that we shouldn't rush this kind of revision and risk to mess up our character profile pages, should we simply add extra 2-C tiers to Silver Surfer, Hulk, and Hyperion at their peaks, along with the other characters that very reliably scale to this?
 
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