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Also, I don't agree with 2-C btw.
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Let's discuss KH3? SPOILERS for Kingdom Hearts 3 SPOILERS (Obviously.)
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Even then, Marluxia calls that place "World of Nothingness", so in any case it wouldn't fit the requirements for 4-A even if the stars were real. It'd be basically the same as KH1 Kingdom Heart's feat, I think
I don't agree with 2-C either
@Bob those are the stuff I mentioned from the glossary, right? Those'll be helpful
I don't agree with 2-C either
@Bob those are the stuff I mentioned from the glossary, right? Those'll be helpful
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Actually KH is famously known for name dropping stuff just to sound cool, "Fact Within Fiction" for World that Never Was(which this name is an example in it of itself) in DDD as an example. Also if the feat doesn't scale to Marluxia, Aqua basically warped the space of that world so it could scale to her, which would cross-scale to the rest of the cast.RKGenki said:
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The 2-C thing is "possibly" at best. It can be used since the three Realms are separated universes.
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That's not the area he finds it out, he finds it out in Walk of Delusions(or Verge of Chaos forgot which one exactly).
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RKGenki What is the feat concerned ?
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Well, i d'ont see neither. Yeah she turns the Castle of Oblivion into the Land of Departure but it seems to be some sort of mecanism that can be activated by Eraqus's Keyblade, not a real feat.
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I noted 2 cases, why did you state one? Him being a nobody doesn't suddenly prove it being a "world of nothingness" especially when there's clearly things in said world like a background, a world of nothingness would literally be a white/dark void. You not seeing it sounds like you're simply ignoring that Nomura has consistently done this. Go to literally any original world of nomura's and look at the name of the location in those worlds(sans Hollow Bastion at most and even then it gets quite flowery).
Cause she literally warped the entire space of Land of Departure to create Castle Oblivio. Arguably also got moved to another area since the green lands that Sora, Donald, and Goofy are in are nowhere to be seen in land of departure but that could possibly be just it not being shown.
Cause she literally warped the entire space of Land of Departure to create Castle Oblivio. Arguably also got moved to another area since the green lands that Sora, Donald, and Goofy are in are nowhere to be seen in land of departure but that could possibly be just it not being shown.
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Why wouldn't it scale to Eraqus' keyblade that Terra scales from?ArkhamDC06 said:
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GiverOfThePeace Since it seems to be a specific mechanism, maybe Eraqus himself made it like this to be sure he would be the only one, laong with his "rightful" apprentices to be able to unlock it. Plus, when the Castle was "created", Aqua turned it with Master Keeper while remembering Eraqus's instructions wich seems to indicate a) that he created the mechanism or b) that was created before and that he was the only one who could activate it for some reason. So maybe not specifically Eraqus's Keyblade but the one of the Master in charge at the moment.
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Also, Aqua used Master Keeper both for turning the Land into the Castle and the Castle back into the Land, while she still had her own Keyblade at the time.
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Eraqus explicitly states that it was devised by his predecessors
@Giver except that that is all we have going for that place, so what requires less assumptions is it being actually nothingness as Marluxia states rather than a full blown dimension containing light years distant stars. It not being a blank slate doesn't disprove it not being nothingness
@Giver except that that is all we have going for that place, so what requires less assumptions is it being actually nothingness as Marluxia states rather than a full blown dimension containing light years distant stars. It not being a blank slate doesn't disprove it not being nothingness
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...What? How does it require less assumptions that it is actually nothingness? There's literally a background. There's things that exist, that's not nothingness. I have no idea where that came from. Yes, it fully does, things literally existing in that realm fully debunks it being nothingess.
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The stars inside of the castle are other worlds?Kaltias said:
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RKGenki True, i didn't remembered it.
Kaltias I agree, even if it was a feat for Aqua, it's still one world.
Kaltias I agree, even if it was a feat for Aqua, it's still one world.
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The stars inside the castle either aren't real stars (the fact that they are real still needs to be proven), or a world that's not remotely implied to be colossal compared to literally every other world in the setting suddenly dwarfs everything else by several order of magnitudes.
If anything the fact that LoD is as big as Castle Oblivion goes against the 4-A room being real.
If anything the fact that LoD is as big as Castle Oblivion goes against the 4-A room being real.
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That's the 2nd form, the form not even being mentioned, and even then there's still an existing stone pillar there if we want to be nit picky.
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Bobsican Didn't Mickey managed to do it thanks to Yen Sid's hat ? Are we sure he can do the same thing without it ?
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Your link took me specifically to the 2nd, the third quite clearly is not pure nothingness.RKGenki said:
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That's based off the sorcer's apprentice, where he outright manipulates several stars in that movie, he makes the starry realm in that same scene.Bobsican said:
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In the beginning of the world for DDD Mickey makes the realm, I forgot if it was Sora's or Riku's that shows that.
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Bobsican We can assume he became powerful enough to do it alone but still, there is a doubt for me.
Honestly i don't see why Marluxia's final boss stage should be considered taking place into nothingness. Just seems to be some sort of pocket dimension, not pure nothingness like Xemnas.
Honestly i don't see why Marluxia's final boss stage should be considered taking place into nothingness. Just seems to be some sort of pocket dimension, not pure nothingness like Xemnas.
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Never said that. I was pointing out how you said he only made it things do work for him which is wrong in both the original movie and DDD.Bobsican said:
Jafar isn't 3-A here, nitpicking but just pointing that out. But if we want to be technical Jafar has a "3-A statement" hyperbolic, but still there.
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