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There’s also EoW stuff. I haven’t beaten the final boss yet, but I know their deal and if they ended up being galaxy or uni level, I’d find that funny as hell considering the game uses the “Toy” artstyle just like Link’s Awakening.
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Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread
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I was hyped about that guy, myself. But sadly, there are many "buts" around him and his lore, so he's not that impressive in the end power wise.
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I mean, there are feats. TOTK atm has like 20 random uncalced feats, that we just see happen. Some of them kinda wild.
Zelda has a fuckton of impressive, and thankfully, consistent, feats that we just see happen. Whether it's funny weather shit like parting a continent sized cloud on screen, or even just basic stuff like Ganon and Midna pulping like an actual town sized castle on screen as collateral, there's feats, they're just not calced.
We should probably actually calc them tho. If you count lore feats shit jumps up by a fuckton, even mundane stuff like Faroosh(?) has a mountain split we see the direct result of, continental creation feats (which we actually really SHOULD calc now that I remember they a thing), Demise basically altering the geography with support yap saying he could destroy the world, etc.
Honestly Zelda has a staggering amount of feats for being the type of game it is.
That or maybe people don't really play Zelda for big numbers let alone a Warrior style game.
Like, I like HW, but let's be real, that shit AIN'T as good as ******* BOTW dog.
Also HW is for the most part weaker than main canon, it's just visually flashy, the only real thing that puts them higher is whole TF Ganon yap, but there's so much contradictory info about that in the game itself, and to top it off, it's only high if you use canon feats to gas it to uni stuff, otherwise it doesn't actually have feats that'd we'd treat past like maybe 6-B, idk man, worst part is, that isn't even higher than canon, that's just getting held up by main canon and then scaling everyone to it.
Although, that gauntlet feat is a notable exception, that shit is kind of ******* dumb, and is probably the second highest LS feat in verse.
wut
EoW technically has hefty upgrade in it, but it doesn't scale to the main villain in particular but other shit. EoW gasses the **** out of mobs tho, strongest mobs we've ever gotten by like magnitudes and that's without scaling, just their own feats.
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I miss when EoW was new and we were all actually teamed up and collaberating on the different profiles we could all make for it. Now everyone seems to hate each other, not a single profile has been finished, and the threads are dead. What happened?
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That literally never happened.
Nothing's changed, at all.
Null is done I think?
Waiting on Nierre and calcs, which ignoring how I WAS calcing something literally right now in paint.net for EoW, if you actually wanna be useful instead of complaining about literally everything ever, go calc the shrimp whirlpool feat as well as Wizzrobe shit, Gohma beam, and the volume of the urchin *****.
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In other relevant news that actually matters
I like spending 20h making a new file, speed running farming zonai slop and charges, making a **** ass flying machine, and flying UP death mountain BEFORE the the ******* caldera gets popped, dodging giant beams of molten rock that on contact ruins it causing me to save and ******* reload (that i cant see because im flying up so i have to remember the coordinates of them and avoid them while theyre above screen),
And then do it like ten more times for different points and then cross compare the coordinates on top of the caldera just to get thickness for the slab of rock elfucko the giant kaiju smashed
I like spending 20h making a new file, speed running farming zonai slop and charges, making a **** ass flying machine, and flying UP death mountain BEFORE the the ******* caldera gets popped, dodging giant beams of molten rock that on contact ruins it causing me to save and ******* reload (that i cant see because im flying up so i have to remember the coordinates of them and avoid them while theyre above screen),
And then do it like ten more times for different points and then cross compare the coordinates on top of the caldera just to get thickness for the slab of rock elfucko the giant kaiju smashed
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The things I do for some news around here
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Be annoying instead of just asking for an update like a normal person?
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How could I have possibly known you were even working on anything? Shit like this is why I'm not doing EoW stuff anymore
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What did you do before? (Like actually genuinely asking)
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I volunteered to do the Link and Mighty Sword profiles... like 5 times.
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Okay? Did you do it? You can volunteer as much as you want. We've already done calcs for and talked about the scaling of it to completion so why didn't you do it
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Oh, so NOW it's all about me.
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You kinda made it about youself and since you're the one saying you volunteered after already having everything you need in the chat I'd figured you'd have something done
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I did... but then I decided not to, remember?
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because you actually have nothing to contribute aside from complaints and snide remarks, got it
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No wonder our convos keep dying.
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"Hey dude I'm working on stuff!" - me literally every time we have this convo.
Have you SEEN the OOT/MM CRT yet. The TOTK CRT? The EoW calcs I literally said I already had done?
No? Well then evidently it's an ongoing process still.
Right now I'm translating various japanese guides listed in Zelda Encyclopedia (as in, guides literally acknowledged as canon), some decent stuff in there, actual random yap like skill slop, senses slop, legitimate hax that we just don't have, and it ain't like Nintendo power-tier but from actual guides acknowledged as canonical sources.
Why WOULDN'T you just be normal and go "hey any updates" or "what we doing fellas?".
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Honestly, I would love to see your work on those CRTs, but all I can see are the little snippets you post here once in a while.
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Well yeah, it ain't done
Atm I'm trying to hunt down most of these and translate them
Thankfully, archive had a few listed (an example). Others I have to actually buy (I've found a few on ebay), then there's the fact at this point 99% of the CRT is just my own footage (citra, dolphin, various files at various points, free cam, etc) to get footage for specific stuff (literally everything), the actual compiling that shit (A lot exceed imgur 1m upload limit so I've been literally making yt vids to act as more indepth source videos to link), actualqly writing, and then there's clean up, etc.
That shit is not done, that shit needs to be juggled with stuff like JoJo too, I just don't **** with Zelda.
I'll post when done, it ain't done, honestly it WOULD have been done if I opted to just do what I started with but at this point it's going to be a complete comprehensive breakdown of literally everything ******* imaginiable (in the case of OOT/MM, TOTK is just annoying because I have to rename a bunch of switch clip files. Which as an fyi means I need to dig through other games too for Master Sword slop and various other things that are applicable).
This shit is not a daily, or even yearly process.
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By any chance, are you keeping your progress anywhere on the site, Chariot? Blogs, Sandboxes or anything?
You're also working on Metal Gear, if your signature is to go by.
You're also working on Metal Gear, if your signature is to go by.
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Yesnt. I have like 900 sandboxes, sometimes I update them, sometimes I do not. Sometime's it's one sandbox, sometimes it's split apart among a bunch. The OOT/MM sandboxes haven't been updated in like a year because I moved to doing it in sticky notes as they're kinda big and laggy, so what I have is super outdated, ugly, not really worth posting even as reference, etc.
But that's in that particular case, some sandboxes are just solely on wiki like a few of my jojo ones. Just kind of depends. Jodio, Diego, some Bloodstained shit, Baoh, other misc, etc are contained solely within sandbox.
MGS is the same in that regard, and a few others. I don't really like posting them till I think they look nice and concise tho.
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Me translating like 15 random japanese guides and magazines to find the secret black boe intangibility statement and other trivial slop
ive only finished 3
ive only finished 3
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And remember, this guy still has all of Arkham to rework!Me translating like 15 random japanese guides and magazines to find the secret black boe intangibility statement and other trivial slop
ive only finished 3
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I actually did replay and note down all the funny shit from Knight he's missing (there's a lot, like to the point, some of which is so obvious like damage reduction for bat armor, especially in knight due to the smart fluid that can reduce kinetic impacts and stuff which is super obvious because the game just flatout tells you directly in a scripted segment? That I'm questioning the sanity of whoever made the profile), I have it in a sticky note somewhere. Didn't do other 3 tho, probably won't for quite a bit.
Unrelated but I legit just came across a statement saying boe's fog-like so ******* yippee ig
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Maybe by translating enough guidebooks we'll finally have enough feats to go against other fantasy verses like Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, and literally even the weakest version of Cloud Strife.
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Boe slop gives Link elemental NPI on like 80% of his kit.
Stacking with his spirit NPI on like 70% (yes 70%, some stuff doesn't work on ghost enemies, like the Hook Shot for example).
So uh, there is actual use here even for somewhat trivial stuff, mind you that was a meme statement but there has been some real useful statements and lore, minor ones like Link having some decent enhanced senses or ESP, to actual scaling shit that would effect tiers and stats in a beneficial way. Of course it's not like constant, but stuff is there, which has been adding up. Got a small pile of like 1 to 2 dozen brand new relevant additions just off jap lore.
**** almost every super major hax, lore or whatever I've found comes from japanese content.
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Obviously I am grateful that you do that, but how will this help the profiles?
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You also have Shadow to do now
AND like a couple random games I didn't hear about until literally 3 days ago
The reason I don't do Arkham myself is because your standards of quality would make you attempt to strangle me for scanning as little shit as I usually do lol
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I'll just put Baken at gunpoint for that.
There's a mobile one i think
I mean for a complete overhaul yeah, if ya wanna add some shit early or now, as long as you give scans, doing it in batches with sauce should be fine. I don't expect people to be as anal as I am, they just gotta like, have at least solid proof, the more the better but as long as it's detailed sufficiently, meh.
I just like doing everything all at once so it takes like literally 1-2 years. And I also lik having every instance of a thing for completion so none of this "what if" shit or stuff being brought up that is situational, but because it was situational it wasn't added so the whole "erm go make CRT?" shit happens.
"How will indexing stuff they have help the indexing"
wut
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Damn, sorry I asked.
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Why even ask, how do you THINK new info, powers, abilities, lore relevant scaling, etc would effect the profile 
Even the funny haha boe meme is new, Link doesn't have elemental NPI listed.
Even the funny haha boe meme is new, Link doesn't have elemental NPI listed.
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Thing is I prefer to just... rework the profile entirely. And if my profiles have scans, they are usually long-set game movies or scenes in the references themselves.
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Sorry, I should rephrase. How would staring at a 50 different translations of the same reworded story that's already a video game help a single profile?Why even ask, how do you THINK new info, powers, abilities, lore relevant scaling, etc would effect the profile
Even the funny haha boe meme is new, Link doesn't have elemental NPI listed.
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Accuracy.
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It was a loaded question to begin with.
