Legend of Heroes/Trails/Falcom Verse Creation & Discussion Thread

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Since we are getting a Legend of Heroes anime in around a week, this would be a good time to get the franchise represented on the wiki.

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So I have a draft of what a Rean Schwarzer profile might look like:

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Would appreciate suggestions/help in organization and quotes.
The biggest hurdle left is to compile the resistances from various monsters, and compile the Orbal Arts and Quartz. If it is more convenient, maybe we can place the Orbal Arts/Quartz in a blog.
I am mostly familiar with Trials of Cold Steel characters.

So we need to come up with a scaling before we can get profiles, and eventually a verse page, completed.

Following the honored tradition in JRPG, there is story/gameplay dissonance with over-the-top gameplay feats.
For AP, I think we can go with Tier 6 to Tier 4
And for speed I predict it would be relativistic.

Jasonsith did some early effort for calcing (still not evaluated though):

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There is a planet busting feat by Ishmalga that yielded High 5-A.
The final boss of Trials in the Sky the 3rd did a similar feat where he busts the planet to small fragments:


The Lost Genesis Orbal Art creates a black hole, and the animation has the black hole swallowing a couple of moons/planets:


Mueller Vander's S-Craft, Righteous Witness, has him create a Black Hole, with the description stating that it "disperses space itself".

Kurt Vander's S-Craft, Gemini Judgement, similarly creates a black hole, with the description calling it a "stellar explosion".

McBurn's S-Craft states that it is a "A blast of unfathomable heat which explodes into a supernova".

The description for Ixion Volt states that the dark storm cloud is called, which is a good support Tier 7 feat.

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For speed there is Millium flying to orbit in an instance, and firing a laser resulting in an explosion that can be seen from space:


Lloyd jumps to orbit quickly in his Meteor Breaker S-Craft.

In general characters can dodge laser attacks. In Claire's S-Craft she demonstrates that the laser she fires from her Orbal Gun reflects on mirrors.

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There are also multiversal stuff; so in Trails to Azure the protagonists beat up the Azure Demiourgos, who contains the Wolrd of Zero:

World of Zero

The World of Zero (零の世界) is a part of KeA and the Azure Tree that contains every possible reality and allows her to freely reshape the world's history. Following the Special Support Section's victory over Azure Demiourgos, Lloyd Bannings follows KeA as she collapses onto herself, ending up in...

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KeA states she is able to erase herself, which would erase the World of Zero. Part of the power of the Azure Demiourgos was siphoned by Aion Type-β and Aion Type-γ to erase a large section of the Garrelia Fortress.
So should we consider multiveral scaling for top-tiers, or disregard it? The recurring protagonists of Trails to Azure practically scales to everybody.

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Also, best opening?


Anything you are looking forward to in the anime? Do you have questions regarding the franchise? Are you new to it or an OG fan?

 

[Scottycj256]

I am currently playing through Trails of Cold Steel 1, and have a sandbox of Rean in progress

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I'm currently playing through the series to get evidence of hax to use for a Universal Energy System page for Orbal Arts

the thing i have down though is the scaling chain, though i can likely make CS1 characters 7-B with that supporting feat posted

 

[Scottycj256]

also the Azure protagonists don't necessarily scale to Azure Demurgios until Reverie, since the only way they defeated it in Azure was through the help of Kea's Sept-Terrion power, so it'd only apply to Reverie keys for several characters,

Spoiler

due to the main cast being able to defeat Azure Demurgios as the final boss of Reverie

 

[Scottycj256]

Speed is around the ballpark of Massively Hypersonic+ to Relativistic, with the god tiers scaling to Immeasurable due to Azure Demurgios encompassing the Zero World, which is a place where space and time are irrelevant

 

[Jasonsith]

Looking at things

1. Oh definitely try to look at any calc blogs tagged "Trails series" or "Legend of Heroes".

Legend of Heroes series assorted feats (1)

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That planet slicing feat. And god tier speed feat.

Legend of Heroes series assorted feats (1)

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All main cast and major villains Scale from our literal top girl Emma Millstein.

2. Low tiers and early game characters scale from yields at the below blog

Respect blog for Estelle Bright (The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky)

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3. Yes please correct on the title of the thread: it is Trails series not Trials series

 

[Scottycj256]

Also like the based man I am I'm committing to Emma for the entire Cold Steel arc

 

[Scottycj256]

bump

 

[Scottycj256]

brought the P&A from your sandbox over to mine

 

[Scottycj256]

could it be possible to give CS1 characters High 8-C due to Ragna Vortex

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Lol, fixed the title.

Also like the based man I am I'm committing to Emma for the entire Cold Steel arc

Laura and Emma are best girls by a wide margin.

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Cold Steel II has a cutscene feat that will probably yield Tier 8 (at 10:00):


Cross Crusade (an attack the Magic Knight tanked) was used to fragment a large cliff.

I'm currently playing through the series to get evidence of hax to use for a Universal Energy System page for Orbal Arts

Searching for anything in particular? Maybe we can look up keywords on the online Trials script database.
The only statement besides attack description I remember is that higher elements (Time, Space, Mirage) can manipulate causality, from the first Cold Steel.

So gathered a list of Orbal Arts alongside their description from different games (and status effect Quartz I found relevant), so we can sort them out:

Spoiler: Sky

Earth
Stone Hammer: Drops a large boulder on enemies.
Earth Lance: A pointed blade shoots up from the ground.
Petrify Breath: Blows petrifying gas on an enemy. [Petrify 20%]
Atlas Hammer: Drops a colossal mass of boulders onto enemies.
Stone Impact: Drops a massive boulder on enemies.
Titanic Roar: Creates a powerful localized earthquake.
Geo Catastrophe: Magma power converted into a massive localized earthquake.
Earth Guard: Forms a temporary earth shield. [Immunity]
Earth Wall: Forms a temporary earth shield perimeter. [Immunity]
Gaia Shield: Forms a temporary earth shield boundary. [Immunity]
Crest: Temporarily grants protection from the earth. [DEF+25%]
La Crest: Grants earth protection to all allies in range. [DEF+25%]
Petrosphere: Binds foes' legs with the power of the earth. [MOV-4]

Water
Aqua Bleed: Shoots a heavy stream of water at enemies.
Blue Impact: Blasts an enemy with highly pressurized water.
Blue Ascension: Blasts an enemy with an explosive fountain of water.
Diamond Dust: Produces intense cold. [Freeze 20%]
Cocytus: Summons enormous pillars of ice. [Freeze 20%]
Tear: Heals 200HP for an ally.
Teara: Heals 1000HP for an ally.
Tearal: Heals 2000HP for an ally.
Tear-All: Heals all HP for an ally.
La Tear: Heals 200HP for allies in the area.
La Teara: Heals 1000HP for allies in the area.
La Tearal: Heals 6500HP for allies in the area.
La Tear-All: Heals all HP for all allies.
Thelas: Revives and heals 100HP.
Athelas: Revives and heals all HP for an ally.
Curia: Cures all abnormal status except K.O.
La Curia: Cures status of all allies in area except those K.O.ed.

Fire
Fire Bolt: Shoots a flaming ball of fire.
Flare Arrow: Showers an enemy with searing flames.
Napalm Breath: Crimson flames that erupt from below.
Cyclone Napalm: Scorches the enemy with whirling crimson flames.
Fire Bolt EX: Sends a wave of flaming balls of fire.
Spiral Flare: A chaotic flurry of scorching arrows.
Volcanic Rave: Causes an explosion of focused energy.
Meteo Fall: Crushes foes with a meteorite summoned from above.
Arc Prominence: Incinerates all foes in an explosive mass of fire.
Forte: Temporarily boosts strength by fire. [STR+25%]
La Forte: Grants power of fire to all allies in range. [STR+25%]

Wind
Air Strike: Tears and shreds an enemy with compressed air.
Aerial: A powerful tornado with whirling bits of rubble.
Aero Storm: Creates a massive vortex of slicing aero blades.
Grand Stream: Tears foes apart with violent torrents of air.
Lightning: Sends out an electrical shock. [Seal 20%]
Plasma Wave: Strikes with electrical bolts. [Seal 20%]
Ragna Blast: Calls down lightning of judgment. [Seal 20%]
Gale Lance: Attacks and pushes back enemies with a blast of wind.
Sylphen Guard: Creates a temporary wind barrier. [AGL+50%]
Sylphen Wing: Temporarily borrows the power of wind. [MOV+1]
Sylpharion: Temporarily uses wind power to increase movement. [MOV+2]

Time
Soul Blur: Emits a time-space shaking pulse. [Faint 20%]
Energy Drain: Breaks down foes' life energy as time, draining HP. [HP Absorb]
Shadow Spear: A blade that whittles away life. [K.O. 20%]
Hell Gate: Stagnates enemies' vital activities. [Faint 20%]
White Gehenna: Disrupts the time-space continuum. [Faint 20%]
Abyss Fall: Summons forth a messenger from the underworld. [Faint 20%]
Death Scream: Piercing cry that calls foes to the underworld. [K.O. 20%]
Calamitous Blast: Creates cracks in time and space to damage foes. [ADF-20%]
Clock Up: Speeds up the flow of time. [SPD+25%]
Clock Up EX: Greatly speeds up the flow of time. [SPD+50%]
Anti-Sept: Temporarily prevents the casting of arts. [Mute]
Anti-Sept All: Temporarily prevents the casting of arts. [Mute]
Orbal Down: Temporarily seals all arts. [Mute, ADF-30%]
Clock Down: Slows the flow of time. [SPD-50%]

Space
Dark Matter: Crushes a foe's body with compressed space.
Lost Mobius: Crushes foes to paste with warped space.
Dark Matter EX: High pressure space attracts and crushes foes. [Suction, MOV-2]
Devastation Blast: A lost art that compresses space with pure destructive power.
Genesic Barrier: Protects allies with a barrier, nulling all non-recovery arts.
A-Crest: Raises in-range allies' arts resistance. [ADF+30%]

Mirage
Ascension: Creates a field that inhibits cognitive abilities. [Seal 20%]
Silver Thorn: A shower of madness-inducing blades. [Confuse 90%]
Saint: Temporarily increases an ally's parameters. [STR&DEF+25%]
Zodiac: Temporarily increases all allies' parameters. [STR&DEF+25%]
Chaos Brand: Muddles an enemy's cognitive abilities. [Confuse]
Phantom Pain: Projects a mirage to weaken foes' will to fight. [STR-15%]
Enfeeble: Weakens enemies in an area. [DEF-25%]
Silent Cross: Mist that terminates all ambition. Cancels arts & crafts.
Arch Drain: Steals energy from foes as EP. [EP Absorb]

Status effect Quartz
Poison 2: Poison enemy with 20% success.
Petrify 2: Petrify enemy with 20% success.
Mute 2: Mute enemy with 20% success.
Septium Vein: Increase all types of sepith dropped by monsters by 1-2.
Soul: EP is automatically converted to CP during battle.
Freeze 2: Freeze enemy with 20% success.
Heal: HP slowly recovers by walking.
Spiritual: Receives less magic damage, but more physical damage.
Reflect: Reflect magical damage with 50% success. EP-30%
Seal 2: Seal enemy crafts with 20% success.
Ingenuity 2: Recovers a small amount of EP while walking and in battle.
Mirror: Reflect physical damage with 50% success. Max HP-20%
Sleep 2: Put enemy to sleep with 20% success.
Impede 3: Prevent enemy arts with 80% success. [old]
Wood Gem: Prevent enemy arts and crafts with 30% success rate. (Impede 5) [3rd]
Scent: Enemies become aware of presence.
Absorb: Recover 2% of user's max HP when defeating an enemy.
Swiftness: Battles become advantage encounters.
Blind 2: Blind enemy with 20% success.
Deathblow 1: Kill enemy with 10% success.
Deathblow 2: 100% kills enemy but quartz breaks.
Death: Kill enemy with 20% success.
Cast 2: Time to cast arts is greatly cut.
Luck: Increases enemy item drop rate by 30%.
Memory: Door locations are shown on the minimap.
Strike 2: Critically strike with 20% success.
Gold Gem: Arts' EP cost-50%. (EP Cut 5)
Eagle Eye: Can see enemies from a distance.
Falcon Eye: Displays enemy locations on the minimap.
Confuse 2: Confuse enemy with 20% success.
Information: Be able to perceive enemy status.
Haze: Enemies become unaware of presence.
Cloak: No encounters.
Detection: Displays treasure chests locations on the minimap.

Spoiler: Zero and Azure

Earth
Stone Spike: Causes a sharp rock to shoot up from the ground.
Quake: Causes a small localized earthquake.
Gorgon Breath: Spews petrifying gas on the enemy.
Gaea Titanis: Rocks shoot up at the enemy from cracked earth.
Yggdrasil: The great tree's roots skewer the enemy in a wide area.
Gigant Rage: Summons a gigantic earth spirit to pulverize the ground.
Earth Pulse: Grants the power of the earth to recover strength.
Crest: Grants the protective power of the earth to an ally.
La Crest: Grants the protective power of the earth to allies.
Adamantine Guard: Puts up a barrier which guards against one physical attack.

Water
Icicle Edge: Fires a sharp icicle.
Blue Drop: Imprisons enemies in a drop of water that explodes.
Ice Hammer: Drops an icicle on enemies.
Hydro Cannon: Shoots a high pressure blast of water to wash away enemies.
Diamond Dust: Produces intense cold.
Genesis Flood: An enormous tidal wave swallows all enemies.
Eschaton: Summons an ice demon that emanates absolute zero.
Tear: Heals a small amount for one ally using the power of water.
Teara: Heals a medium amount for one ally using the power of water.
Tearal: Heals a large amount for one ally using the power of water.
Tear-All: Heals all HP for one ally using the power of water.
Thelas: Revives and heals a small amount for one ally.
Athelas: Revives and heals a medium amount for one ally.
Cobalt Sphere: Prevents enemies from using arts for a few turns.
Aqua Mirage: Avoids attacks with a protective wall of water.

Fire
Fire Bolt: Shoots a flaming ball of fire.
Heatwave: Covers the earth's surface with intense heat.
Magna Blaze: Explodes compressed lava.
Flare Butterfly: Countless flame butterflies dance.
Crimson Ray: An extremely intense heat ray reduces enemies to ashes.
Lord Inferno: Summons a tyrannical dragon to incinerate the battlefield.
Impassion: Invigorates the spirit of allies.
Forte: Grants the power of fire to an ally.
La Forte: Grants the power of fire to allies.

Wind
Sparkle: Calls down lightning from above.
Aero Sickle: Generates a whirlwind to tear apart enemies.
Aerial: A powerful tornado with whirling bits of rubble.
Spark Dyne: Manipulates the weather to call down a blue lightning bolt.
Thunder Cyclone: Creates a lightning-filled tornado.
Ragna Dorian: Summons the divine spear of tempests to pierce foes.
Breath: A cleansing breath of life heals allies.
Holy Breath: A holy breath of life heals a great amount.
Recuria: Cures ailments (except K.O.).
Lorelei: Echoes a spirit's song that causes a deep sleep.
Sylphid: Uses the power of the wind spirit to increase movement.

Time
Soul Blur: Emits a time-space shaking pulse.
Calamity Edge: Cuts enemies with a time-space rending edge.
Death Spiral: Demonic claws from Gehenna tear enemies apart.
Shadow Blade: A demonic blade. Absorb 5% of damage dealt as HP.
Lucifen Wing: Summons enormous black wings, flattening all.
Celestial: Revives and heals all.
Innocence Arc: Returns lowered stats to normal for all.
Chrono Down: Decelerates time in an area.
Calamity Claw: Demonic claws from Gehenna grab at the feet.
Chrono Drive: Accelerates the flow of time in an area.

Space
Photon Shoot: Shoots heavily compressed photons.
Dark Matter: High pressure space attracts and crushes foes.
Golden Halo: Summons seven shining magical orbs to take out foes.
Last Disaster: A glint of light mercilessly collapses space around enemies.
Reincarnation: Sucks everything into a spacetime rift, annihilating it.
Fortuna: Grants a blessing to allies.
A-Reflex: Generates a barrier which reflects one orbal art.

Mirage
Chaos Brand: Silver swords drive enemies insane.
Silver Thorn: Calls forth a shower of madness-inducing blades.
Galion Tower: Rains light arrows from a tower of illusion.
Avalon Gate: Opens heaven's gate and brings judgment's light to evil.
Argent Ark: Summons a silver ark to bombard all through its gunports.
Lunar Craze: Shows a lunar illusion, confusing lower level targets.
Analyze: Analyzes and obtains enemy data.
Saint: Raises an ally's offense and defense.
Hollow Sphere: Conceals self by bending light around the target.
Zodiac: Raises all allies' offense and defense.

Status effect Quartz
Poison 2: 20% chance to poison enemy.
Petrify 2: 20% chance to petrify enemy.
Septium Vein: Increases all types of sepith dropped by enemies by 1-2.
Ingenuity: EP slowly recovers by walking on the field.
Intimidation: Enemies more likely to run away on the field (party lead).
Saturn Bell: Can act immediately after using earth arts.
Mute 2: 20% chance to mute enemy.
Freeze 2: 20% chance to freeze enemy.
Heal: HP slowly recovers by walking on the field.
Mercury Bell: Can act immediately after using water arts.
Seal 2: 20% chance to seal enemy.
Burn 2: 20% chance to burn enemy.
Invigorate: Gain CP by attacking enemies on the field.
Dragon Vision: Automatically analyzes defeated enemies.
Mars Bell: Can act immediately after using fire arts.
Blind 2: 20% chance to blind enemy.
Sleep 2: 20% chance to put enemy to sleep.
Hare: Increases chance of escaping from battle by 50%.
Scent: Enemies more likely to notice you on the field (full party).
Jupiter Bell: Can act immediately after using wind arts.
Sever Gem: Cancels enemy arts and crafts with 90% success rate.
Time Gem: Time to cast arts is cut by 50%.
Luck: Increases enemy item drop rate by 100%.
Restraint: Enemy movement is slowed on the field.
Pluto Bell: Can act immediately after using time arts.
Gold Gem: Arts' EP cost -25%.
Eagle Eye: Displays enemies on mini map (full party).
Uranus Bell: Can act immediately after using space arts.
Confuse 2: 20% chance to confuse enemy.
Information: See detailed information about enemies without analyzing.
Detection: Displays treasure chest locations on mini map (full party).
Shroud: Enemies less likely to notice you on the field (full party).
Venus Bell: Can act immediately after using mirage arts.

Spoiler: Cold Steel I & II

Earth
Needle Shoot: Launches a sharply pointed boulder at an enemy.
Earth Lance: Summons lances of earth from below the ground.
Grand Press: Creates a localized earthquake below enemies.
Yggdrasil: Summons a sentient tree to skewer enemies.
Ancient Glyph: Summons a megalith high above, then drops it.
Earth Pulse: Stimulates healing.
Crest: Grants earth's protection to raise defense.
La Crest: Grants earth's protection to raise defense.
Adamantine Shield: A shield protects targets from one physical attack.

Water
Aqua Bleed: Strikes an enemy with a heavy mass of water.
Frost Edge: Attacks enemies with blades of crystallized ice.
Hydro Cannon: Strikes with a high-pressure water current.
Crystal Flood: Creates a glistening river of ice.
Maelstrom: Creates a powerful whirlpool.
Tear: Heals a small amount of HP with the power of water.
Teara: Heals a medium amount of HP with the power of water.
Tearal: Heals a large amount of HP with the power of water.
Thelas: Revives one ally, and heals a small amount of HP.
Athelas: Revives one ally, and heals a large amount of HP.
Curia: Cleanses an ally of impurities with water.

Fire
Fire Bolt: Shoots a blazing orb of fire at an enemy.
Heatwave: Covers the earth's surface with intense heat.
Flame Tongue: Flames erupt from the ground, skewering enemies.
Volcanic Rain: Causes incandescent volcanic bombs to rain from the sky.
Flare Bomb: Two flames collide, causing a great explosion.
Purgatorial Flame: Summons the flames of Gehenna to reduce enemies to ash.
Impassion: Raises spirit. Restores 20CP for 4 turns.
Heat Up: Cures Stat Down, and restores 10CP.
Forte: Grants fire's blessing to raise attack.
La Forte: Grants fire's blessing to raise attack.

Wind
Air Strike: Attacks an enemy with a mass of compressed air.
Spark Arrow: Unleashes a line of lightning towards enemies.
Aerial: Creates a whirlwind containing pieces of rubble.
Judgment Bolt: Brings down judgment upon foes with lightning.
Ragna Vortex: Lightning bearing whirlwind swallows enemies.
Breath: Heals allies in an area with purifying breath.
Holy Breath: Heals allies in an area with purifying breath.
Recuria: Cures ailments (except K.O.).

Time
Soul Blur: Emits a time-space shaking pulse.
Demonic Scythe: Reaps the souls of foes with the Grim Reaper's scythe.
Grim Butterfly: A butterfly swarm plunges enemies into despair.
Shadow Blade: A demonic blade. Absorb 5% of damage dealt as HP.
Chrono Drive: Speeds up the flow of time for targeted allies.
Chrono Break: Slows down the flow of time for targeted enemies.
Chrono Burst: Alters the laws of time, allowing the user to act twice more.

Space
Golden Sphere: Attacks enemies with golden magic orbs.
Dark Matter: Draws in and compresses enemies.
Cross Crusade: A cross shaped void bathes all in a holy light.
Altair Cannon: Blasts of light rain down from above.
Fortuna: Grants light's clarity to raise ATS/ADF.
Shining: Grants an ally insight status.
Seraphic Ring: Fully heals, and heals 20% HP for 3 turns.

Mirage
Luminous Ray: Unleashes a beam of lunar light.
Silver Thorn: Blades of condensed insanity rain from above.
Phantom Phobia: Terrifies enemies with an illusion of death.
Claiomh Solarion: Annihilates all with a beam of magical energy.
Analyze: Analyzes and obtains data on an enemy.
Saintly Force: Returns abilities to normal, and applies a buff.
Crescent Mirror: Surrounds allies with a lunar barrier.

Lost Arts
Sol Eruption: The sun burns all. Ignores element efficacy.
Artemis' Tears: Moon Goddess' power allows recovery beyond the body's limits.
Grail Burst: Manipulates space-time with the grail's power.
Tempestuous Roar: Roaring dragons in the earth veins grant power.
Lost Eden: Recreates gods' battle, bringing chaos. Ignores efficacy.

Status effect Quartz
Mute: 20% mute
Freeze 2: 20% freeze
Spirit Breaker: 20% chance ADF -25%
Seal 2: 20% seal
Burn 2: 20% burn
Sword Breaker 2: 20% chance STR -25%
Blind 2: 20% blind
Sleep 2: 20% sleep
Leg Breaker 2: 20% chance MOV -50%
Nightmare 2: 20% nightmare
Speed Breaker 2: 20% chance SPD -25%
Vanish 2: 20% vanish
Voice Breaker: 20% chance ATS -25%
Confuse 2: 20% confuse
Revolution: 10% damage increase for every level higher enemy is over user, up to a maximum of 100%
Waterfall: 10% damage increase for every level lower enemy is under user, up to a maximum of 100%
Wrath: Counterattacks always deal critical damage

Spoiler: Cold Steel III & IV & Reverie

Earth
Needle Shoot: Launches a sharply pointed boulder at an enemy.
Ivy Nail: Calls up thorny ivy vines from below.
Megalith Fall: Drops a giant slab of rock imbued with ancient powers onto the battlefield.
Gravion Hammer: Awakens the energy sleeping deep below the earth.
Crest: Grants earth's protection to raise defense slightly.
La Crest: Grants earth's protection to raise defense.
Earth Pulse: Taps the energy of earth veins to stimulte healing.
Adamantine Shield: A shield protects targets from one physical attack.

Water
Aqua Bleed: Strikes an enemy with a heavy mass of water.
Crystal Edge: Cuts through a line of enemies with sharp blades of ice.
Blue Ascension: Blasts an enemy with an explosive fountain of water.
Diamond Nova: Rains down comets at absolute zero, instantly freezing a group of enemies.
Tear: Heals a small amount of HP with the power of water.
Teara: Heals a medium amount of HP with the power of water.
Tearal: Heals a large amount of HP with the power of water.
Curia: Cleanses an ally of impurities with water.
Thelas: Revives one ally, and heals a small amount of HP.
Athelas: Revives one ally, and heals a large amount of HP.

Fire
Fire Bolt: Shoots a blazing orb of fire at an enemy.
Venom Flame: Scorches enemies with a corrupt flame that releases toxic smoke.
Flare Butterfly: Conjures flaming butterflies that gather on foes and detonate.
Zeruel Cannon: Fires beams of burning light onto foes, culminating in a powerful blast.
Impassion: Ignites an ally's fighting spirit.
Forte: Grants fire's blessing to raise attack slightly.
La Forte: Grants fire's blessing to raise attack.
Heat Up: Raises morale and brings reduced stats back to normal.

Wind
Air Strike: Attacks an enemy with a mass of compressed air.
Nemesis Arrow: Fires a high-voltage blast of lightning directly forward.
Aerial Dust: Creates a tornado filled with chunks of sharp rubble.
Ixion Volt: Calls a dark storm cloud that rains down massive lightning strikes.
Breath: Slightly heals allies in an area with purifying breath.
Holy Breath: Heals allies in an area with purifying breath.
Recuria: Cures ailments (except K.O.) with a purifying breeze.

Time
Soul Blur: Emits a space-time shaking pulse.
Calvary Edge: Calls forth a jet-black spear that drains its surroundings of life.
Lost Genesis: Opens a black hole that swallows up even time and space.
Chrono Drive: Speeds up the flow of time for targeted allies.
Chrono Break: Slows down the flow of time for targeted enemies.
Chrono Burst: Alters the laws of time, allowing the user to act twice more.

Space
Golden Sphere: Attacks enemies with golden magic orbs.
Cross Crusade: Creates a cross-shaped glyph that sears foes with holy light.
Seventh Caliber: Summons seven holy blades that seek out and annihilate evil.
Fortuna: Grants light's clarity to raise ATS/ADF.
Shining: Grants allies insight status.
Seraphic Ring: Revives and heals all party members with heavenly light.

Mirage
Silver Thorn: Blades of condensed insanity rain from above.
Galion Fort: Conjures a phantasmal fortress that fires devastating lasers.
Albion Wolf: Summons a silver wolf whose howl rends time and space asunder.
Analyze: Analyzes and obtains data on an enemy.
Saintly Force: Returns abilities to normal, and applies a buff.
Crescent Mirror: Surrounds allies with a lunar barrier.

Lost Art
Frozen Epoch: Calls down a massive comet that traces a resplendent arc through the sky.
Leanan's Kiss: Heals allies and charms an enemy with the kiss of the goddess of moon and wind.
Prominence Nova: Summons a flaming phoenix that reduces that battlefield to ash.
Grail Thelas: Imbues allies with newfound energy using the power of the grail.
Aeonian Emperor: Summon a heavenly being to smite foes with its blade of Judgement.
Melville Ray: A heavenly messenger descends to cleanse the earth of evil with its scorching rays.

In general, for hax and interesting abilities we have:

• Earth: Petrify and Poison status effects. Not sure we can use 'localized' earth quakes (there are also some enemies stated to cause earth quakes). Geo Catastrophe appear to activate a volcano. Gigant Rage looks promising for calcs.
• Water: Eschaton and Diamond Nova produce absolute zero temprature. Cocytus looks like it would yield Tier 8.
• Wind: Has several storm creation spells (Spark Dyne, Thunder Cyclone, Ragna Dorian, Ragna Vortex, Ixion Volt); easy Tier 7 stuff.
• Time and Space: Has soul/death manipulation, and shaking/collapsing the fabric of space-time, creating black holes, and BFRing opponents to Gehenna. Plenty of durability ignoring hax. Obviously has time manipulation. Has Photon Shoot which should be a straight-forward light-speed attack. Seventh Caliber creates an explosive pillar that parts the clouds.
• Mirage: Mostly Mind Manipulation and Madness Manipulation, and illusions (including invisibility through Hollow Sphere during battle, and haze/shroud/cloak to avoid enemy detection). Has fortresses and towers being conjured, and Luminous Ray which is a direct light beam attack. Albion Wolf is a summon who rends time and space asunder.
• A Lost Art includes summoning a sun, though it doesn't seem to be as large as a normal one. Frozen Epoch calls down a 'massive' comet from space.

There is Vanish which BFR opponents (temporarily if you don't finish a battle quickly, but if there are no enemies left on the field then the battle is considered won).
Mute and Seal can be considered power nullification. There is also the standard Death/Sleep/Freeze/Burn/Nightmare.
Didn't look at the Master Quartz, but if the default ones has interesting boosts and abilities, we can them to the respective characters.

Overall, the verse has lots of hax and hax resistance. Maybe I'll make a list of monsters with hax next.

 

[Scottycj256]

Ah so I can make low tier characters High 8-C scaling off of Aerial, since its described as a powerful tornado in Sky and is an art Cold Steel 1 characters can tank

 

[ZERO7772]

Welp if you need my help with anything feel free to bing me or comment on the profile.

I would gladly help

 

[ZERO7772]

Ah so I can make low tier characters High 8-C scaling off of Aerial, since its described as a powerful tornado in Sky and is an art Cold Steel 1 characters can tank

The CS1 cast could scale to the cliff feat above since they can fight and beat magical knights. The magic knights above also survive the art attack and the fall afterward

 

[ZERO7772]

Now we wait

 

[ZERO7772]

bump

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

So are we going with the Orbal blog page to streamline profiles? (I am personally for it) If so, then what should be included in it?
Should it also have a list of spells? Should it be a general verse magic page that includes the many resistances characters have against monsters?

I wouldn't say the anime is friendly to new comers, so they are better off playing Cold Steel 1 & 2 first.

Levi and her squad must be pretty high level to kill Dromes with physical attacks.
The second episode has a feat of using the boost from a combat Orbment to halt a speeding large armored truck. This can yield good Lifting Strength.

The first episode humanizes the Jaegars. The protagonist is the granddaughter of a North Ambria hero, wonder if this will play an important role. Did she fail to save North Ambria or did she spare it from a fate worse than annexation? It seems Valimar is known as the hero of the empire, but Rean himself is not part of the propaganda yet.
The second episode is the best so far, mainly because of the political intrigue and maneuvering plus the cameos. Building training camps just outside the city walls might have not been the best idea. It is questionable why a rookie team is sent to infiltrate the Empire, and the Jaegar captain lady basically says 'just trust me', and I hope there is good reason behind this plot.
The third episode is terrible filler. A literal clown show. There are so many plot holes, and all sides look incompetent and worse because of this episode. It seems the theme is that the Empire is doing much better than North Ambria, but they could have presented this in ways better than this farce. I know Trails often takes itself too seriously, but here they turned the goofiness all the way up to 11, and now this is canon lmao. The good name of Mishy has been forever tarnished.

The dub of the anime started streaming. Many from the games' English dub casts are reprising their roles, and the script is supervised by the legendary hero Leona Renee who does the localization for the games.

 

[ZERO7772]

o are we going with the Orbal blog page to streamline profiles? (I am personally for it) If so, then what should be included in it?
Should it also have a list of spells? Should it be a general verse magic page that includes the many resistances characters have against monsters?

Arts use depends on what ornament you have equipped so it can be added to via characters equipment

The second episode has a feat of using the boost from a combat Orbment to halt a speeding large armored truck. This can yield good Lifting Strength.

Could easily use that yeah. I am more interested in scaling the character's speed tho. Being faster than a speeding bullet seems like a no-brainer in this verse at the very least even without diving into crafts and arts calcs.

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

So we should just go with a tab for Orbal abilities/hax + a spell list table in the Equipment section?

Found an additional speed feat. Fie can dash faster than a landmine can explode, at 3:10.


Otherwise there are the obvious ones from Sky cutscenes + Cold Steel III opening:

Though I think we can stick with calcing the relativistic ones from gameplay.

 

[ZERO7772]

So we should just go with a tab for Orbal abilities/hax + a spell list table in the Equipment section?

seems like the best option to take yeah.

Found an additional speed feat. Fie can dash faster than a landmine can explode, at 3:10.

Damn, I never really thought of this. Would this be faster than dodging or reflecting a bullet at an almost point-blank distance?

Otherwise there are the obvious ones from Sky cutscenes + Cold Steel III opening:

FC Estelle being basically a bottom tier in the verse makes this scaleable for everyone.

 

[ZERO7772]

Wishing this move at a faster rate tho. We can probably start with Rean profile since he's the MC with most feats and best scaling among them

 

[Jasonsith]

Respect blog for Estelle Bright (The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky)

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I have calculated some of the bullet dodging feats. Likely already covered the two. Another one is dodging from afar and arguably does not get bigger speed yields.



The dodging landmine explosion part... There is a time frame for the triggering and a time frame for the explosion. The mechanism of the triggering of explosion needs to be evaluated as well.

This yield for this speed feat is calculable but I have stacks of calculations and calc evaluations on my desk, these on top of my day job.

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

I'll see if I can add the spell list and Orbal tabbers to Rean's profile draft in a week or so.
Next would be adding resistances, and getting a handful of calcs accepted (prioritizing the high-yield ones used in the scaling, mostly the S-Crafts). Afterwards we should be able to pump out profiles and then a verse page.

Episode 4 of the anime is still weird, but it is at least better than the previous episode (a low bar) and multiple characters are self-aware they are traveling around the entire Empire like tourists for no discernable reason. Ymir is wasted on a hot spring episode. The Northern Jaegars almost burned the town down, threatened to massacre everyone besides Princess Alfin including the children, and almost killed its lord like a year ago. They supposedly went there to investigate the hero's rumored hometown, but pivoted to prioritizing the hot spring and trying to fix it.

 

[GoldenScorpions]

I'm still very early in the Trails series, but this is a great project to see happening.

 

[ZERO7772]

wow this is hopeless it seems

No prograss in a month? @Darksmash bring your ass here

 

[Scottycj256]

I'm in the middle of a college semester, plus im playing through Sky Trilogy

 

[Jasonsith]

Okay I am giving some directions:

1. How many profiles we are putting in here in the long run
2. How good are the casts scaling from what shown in the draft Rean Schwarzer profile which scale from Emma Millstein and from Giliath Osborne?
3. Do we start to polish and publish the profiles for Rean, Emma and Giliath first? Those seem to have the most information fitted.

 

[ZERO7772]

1. How many profiles we are putting in here in the long run

Umm ... A lot? There is **** ton of characters in this franchise. Although once we get the first profiles and calls going the rest will be just manual work.
I would gladly work on these profiles if some ball starts running because I am clueless when it comes to calc and what not.

2. How good are the casts scaling from what shown in the draft Rean Schwarzer profile which scale from Emma Millstein and from Giliath Osborne?

Good chunk of the verse scales to base CS3 Rean. Characters like, Crow, Laura, Sara, Gaius all do for instance

3. Do we start to polish and publish the profiles for Rean, Emma and Giliath first? Those seem to have the most information fitted.

Yeah, would the best option. Rean being the main character means he has many feats and most solo fights to go from and judge on their own merits.

 

[GoldenScorpions]

I feel it might be easier to start with any of the protagonists. So either Rean or Estelle. Rean seems to be the easier option due to quantity of feats.
Would the Sky characters (or at least their Sky Keys) scale lower than the Cold Steel ones ?

 

[Godsatoshi23]

I started knowing about the series from anime currently watching, wanted to ask how much good the game is? Also about Rean has shown only few times in anime but somehow he became one of my fav character.

 

[Darksmash]

No prograss in a month? @Darksmash bring your ass here

I will try to help when I get free time from college

I started knowing about the series from anime currently watching, wanted to ask how much good the game is? Also about Rean has shown only few times in anime but somehow he became one of my fav character.

The games are good imo. You can try Cold Steel 1 and 2 if you want to see more of Rean and see if you like the games but CS3 onwards require you to play the previous games(Sky trilogy and Crossbell duology) for full context.

 

[Godsatoshi23]

The games are good imo. You can try Cold Steel 1 and 2 if you want to see more of Rean and see if you like the games but CS3 onwards require you to play the previous games(Sky trilogy and Crossbell duology) for full context.

Okay, I will try it out and thanks for telling.

 

[NIK_FARIS]

Is it only Rean’s profile are in the making or the entire Class 7? I would assume we can already most of the profiles up to trails of reverie as of now, right?

 

[ZERO7772]

Is it only Rean’s profile are in the making or the entire Class 7? I would assume we can already most of the profiles up to trails of reverie as of now, right?

We need to make Rean's profile first. Like you aren't making a VSwiki page for Trails if you don't have Rean page for start.

 

[NIK_FARIS]

We need to make Rean's profile first. Like you aren't making a VSwiki page for Trails if you don't have Rean page for start.

Indeed. He kinda front page or at least the most popular characters in Trail series so there’s that.
"So, about Ismelga-Rean. Should we make this key for Rean or Ishmelga or just completely different profile?"

 

[ZERO7772]

Indeed. He kinda front page or at least the most popular characters in Trail series so there’s that.
"So, about Ismelga-Rean. Should we make this key for Rean or Ishmelga or just completely different profile?"

Rean Alter "Yes I am gonna call him that" needs a different page.

Rean Alter would probably be the most fun to make profile on the verse and probably the most broken one by a long shot

 

[NIK_FARIS]

Rean Alter "Yes I am gonna call him that" needs a different page.

Okay then. Though, I would argue we could just put it as Bad End Rean then I remember back that the person is not really the original Rean and just akin to an imitation of that possibility so I guess making new page make sense

 

[ZERO7772]

Okay then. Though, I would argue we could just put it as Bad End Rean then I remember back that the person is not really the original Rean and just akin to an imitation of that possibility so I guess making new page make sense

I mean he's basically a different version of Rean. So he's his own character.

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Sorry for the delays, RL and all.

So I updated Rean's sandbox:

ShadowWhoWalks/LoH

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I removed Rean Alter, borrowed Scotty's scaling, and did some weird wiki editing witchcraft to add a list of Orbal Arts and Crafts.

I am not sure how to handle the passive effects (whether from Orbments or Quartz), and will need to do some digging for Valimar's Crafts.

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The anime actually got pretty good after episode 4; the plot is progressing, political intrigue with factions and backstabbing is all over the place, there is character development, they started to acknowledge the brutality of the Northern Jaegers, and the cameos doesn't hurt (Rean and fishing ftw). They even added justification for the tomfoolery episodes: the wild goose chase was an attempt to provoke the Empire by sending obvious spies.
Hope it nails the landing.

Episode 5 has a giant flying worm thing that fragmented a cliff, and created a fissure/chasm. Will probably yield Tier 8. Valimar one-shot a bunch of them simultaneously.

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1. How many profiles we are putting in here in the long run

At least the main characters and villains.
If we pull this off, it is plausible to add all major characters eventually.

2. How good are the casts scaling from what shown in the draft Rean Schwarzer profile which scale from Emma Millstein and from Giliath Osborne?

I think it can stand on its own, but the justification can be strengthened with a handful of more calcs.

3. Do we start to polish and publish the profiles for Rean, Emma and Giliath first? Those seem to have the most information fitted.

Once we have the formatting for Rean's profile and its scaling finalized, the other profiles can be done much easier.

 

[ZERO7772]

I think the profile keys are a bit of a mess. Realistically speaking Rean only needs 3-4 keys.
Pre-time skip, post-time skip, and Resonance, Also, Valimar should have his own profile.

Also, can we hold back on the universal scaling for a bit? Because everyone and their mom fought Ishmelga and Demurgios and the sept-terrain scaling is a bit messy.

Everything else looks good.

 

[Jasonsith]

I think the profile keys are a bit of a mess. Realistically speaking Rean only needs 3-4 keys.
Pre-time skip, post-time skip, and Resonance, Also, Valimar should have his own profile.

Also, can we hold back on the universal scaling for a bit? Because everyone and their mom fought Ishmelga and Demurgios and the sept-terrain scaling is a bit messy.

Everything else looks good.

If anyone fights Ishmelga paying their significant share of power, they deserve Ishmelga tier by our site standards.

Things can be made simpler if McBurn's Incandescent Hellfire can make a supernova which is theoretically above the energy required to slice an Earth in two halves. - scales if anyone fought McBurn with one's own effort of course.