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Them reaching Universal isn't that strange anyway since Type Jupiter has basically the same ability as Kingprotea. He can expend infinitely. You also have to remember that the whole point of the types is to be a mysterious force with little known about them, and unlike the other works, Angle Notes is a short storyThisIsMySwagPack said:So, the problem is that Types haven't demonstrated anything close to this level nor were implied to possess this kind of power. Their main scaling argument is that they should be the strongest things in Nasuverse, something along those lines, which made them 4-B in the first place. Arcueid (and thus AE) has one statement about her being the only thing capable of matching Amaterasu. If we upgrade Arcueid, then we would probably have to upgrade Types because ORT should be stronger than her. But, I think that statement is a bit of a wild claim and I don't think it's supported by anything else.
Therefore, I am against scaling them (Types, AE, Zelretch), unless someone provides some new insight.
From what Dargoo said.. It appears those in charge of the cosmology blog are also confused, and are split on what the terms actually mean.GalaxianAegis said:As far as I understand, Types could still potentially be that strong when you consider just how strong some of the mechanics behind them are. Consider that one aspect of Earth is the Counter Force and that Endiku uses an application of that for his Enuma Elish.
If we also think about the fact that in general: Divine Spirits < True Ancestors < Types, I think that you can make a case for the Types scaling due to how they exist within the cosmology and lore of the verse.
Also, as an aside I thought a blog was in production to clear up a lot of the misconceptions about the Nasuverse like the true meaning of "world" and such. What happened to that?
The stakes came from inside Karna's body, thus bypassing his armour.ThisIsMySwagPack said:Wasn't his armor unable to protect him against Vlad's attack?
This happens in Hinduism all the time lol, there are guys who can tank universe busting weapons without a scratch but later die after having their stomach ripped open with finger nails. Jokes aside I think the only reason Moon cell's hax did not affect Karna's armour, despite being vastly superior to Vlad's stakes, is because of the different mechanism in which both the hax work.ThisIsMySwagPack said:That's the problem. We are supposed to believe that Vlad can damage him, but BB and the Moon Cell with all their hax can't. If we do upgrade KK it should be noted that it can be bypassed as shown in the fight with Vlad.
Ghuttsu said:@matthew shroeder i find it quite hypocritic, how i saw you on the last bleach thread about prime sk & yhwach, trying to severely downplay the verse, while i can find you here "everyone needs to stop downplaying the nasuverse" an upgrade to possibly 3-c is impossible but from 5-a to low 2-c is fine. being biased much. and that's not the only time that i've seen you doing that on a bleach thread.
Considering humanity by nature has biases, it's no more relevant than any other user having some, and this isn't the place anyway.Ghuttsu said:i wouldn't say that having biased admins is irrelevant tbh.