GodlyCharmander
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KingTempest and his difficulty to read anything past the thing that fits his narrative. Brilliant.
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Also, page 142, then page 164
Also Agree with thisI disagree about the Kage being country level. I also disagree about them being comparable to bijuus. Madara's Perfect Susanoo was declared comparable to bijuus, and we clearly saw the power difference between Susanoo and the Kages.
Tsunade broke Madara's "phase 1" Susanoo, it's the one that's just a few ribs. And the Susanoo was hit 3x until she broke him. The Susanoo who resisted Tenpechii was a susanoo in another phase, he already had arms and head. There is a difference between these two phases. When Madara put legs on Susanoo, we saw Tsunade slashing and just knocks him to the ground, but he doesn't cause damage like before.
One of them is enough to be comparable to a Kage, we saw that Tsunade, although it hit, didn't cause damage to them, the Raikage also didn't cause damage, nor the others, at most the Onooki is able to easily beat them thanks to his Jinton . Saying that the Kage have the level to fight the bijuu is the same as saying that a Madara clone with Susanoo is equivalent to a bijuu...
That is just ridiculous, his Perfect Susano'o tanked a 345 Teratons Attack with no issues, which massively outscales any Bijuu. And it has been declared multiple times that Akatsuki Members are capable of defeating Bijuu's.I disagree about the Kage being country level. I also disagree about them being comparable to bijuus. Madara's Perfect Susanoo was declared comparable to bijuus, and we clearly saw the power difference between Susanoo and the Kages.
And I said that Isobu didn't even try to fight him.Deidara defeated Sanbi with relative ease, yet, he had difficulties with a restricted Gaara.
So why aren't they island level right now since scaling's that easy?Irrelevant for the scaling and point I'm trying to make, stop being dishonest. And if you truly believe Deidara just one shot the Bijuu, then it's just more impressive.
Bijuu's can tank their own Bijuu Bombs, end of story.
You just got me heated.Dishonesty again, it's blatantly stated it's due to lack of intelligence, it wouldn't change jack shit about the Bijuu's durability and raw power. You're either being biased, or ignorant. In both cases, I am not really interested in debating with you.
GodlyCharmander has attitude whenever someone disagrees.KingTempest and his difficulty to read anything past the thing that fits his narrative. Brilliant.
Don't bold shit against me, I can read.Also, page 142, then page 164
Nothing implies that first explosion took the Bijuu out, Tobi even implied to have done something afterwards, which Deidara doesn't refute.
The bijuus clearly suffered a reboot during the war, Kakashi and Guy at most were able to deal with the Jinchuuriki in their incomplete form, but they didn't stand a chance against their bijuu form. Guy with the 7th gate easily defeats an Akatsuki (Kisame), but has no ability to defeat a Bijuu.That is just ridiculous, his Perfect Susano'o tanked a 345 Teratons Attack with no issues, which massively outscales any Bijuu. And it has been declared multiple times that Akatsuki Members are capable of defeating Bijuu's.
You can’t actually prove that Seventh Gate Guy can’t defeat a Bijuu, considering that it was Sixth Gate Guy that was fighting the jinchūriki.Guy with the 7th gate easily defeats an Akatsuki (Kisame), but has no ability to defeat a Bijuu.
He did defeat Three-Tails with relative ease, never implied a fight happened whatsoever, as this is not relevant for the scaling.Before i start, what the actual **** are you talking about? You said
And I said that Isobu didn't even try to fight him.
Not the place to try to present some sort of authority, I know who you are, I just don't give two *****. Focus on the argument instead.And you bring up scaling or bias. I personally agree that they should scale to the Bijuu, and I never said otherwise, but if I see a faulty argument I will counter it.
Watch who you talk to and how you talk to them. I never disagreed with your point.
Oh yeah, because there's no wrong scaling in VSBW. Let's pretend the Yonkou weren't Large Mountain Level a while ago, lmfao.So why aren't they island level right now since scaling's that easy?
He one shot a bijuu and said it was weak. But noooo, we need to scale them to bijuu so nothing else matters.
Take a chill pill, Tempy.If it's weaker with a bijuu, then what does that mean?
You just got me heated.
How the **** is me not agreeing with you being ignorant or bias?
Who do you think you are?
Read the scans you sent.So why are they weaker?
Weaker ≠ intelligence?
Obito got stronger after absorbing something. DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE COMING!!!When Obito absorbed the Juubi he became stronger than it because he could focus his power. Specifically cause of intelligence and control of power, making him stronger.
I scaled Deidara to the Bijuu because he defeated it, what else would be relevant for my point other than the Durability, Tempy the Angry?And you said it doesn't change anything about the Bijuu's durability and raw power? When the **** did I say that? All I said was that your example was faulty.
Hypocrite much?Go make a separate CRT then since you're that pissed off they don't scale. Angry ass.
I scale Deidara to the Bijuu.GodlyCharmander has attitude whenever someone disagrees.
You're no authority to say that with a reply like that. You brought up a completely irrelevant attempt at refutation.Watch how you talk to me. You're talking crazy because I sent 6 pages of manga? **** out my face with that.
Oh really? Can you?Don't bold shit against me, I can read.
He never stated anything about that one explosion, he just said the clay did the heavy lifting.He flat out says that his explosion did the heavy lifting and that the credit for the KO was his alone. What the hell are you talking about.
Oh that's ironic, ain't it?No way you just turned red because someone disagreed with you.
It's totally unrelated to my point.What type of BS is that? All I did was send the scans that said there was no fight. You said he struggled against Gaara but not Isobu, then I said Isobu wasn't even fighting him, and you pull out sentences of bullshit getting angry cause I don't agree.
Where was it said that Kisame has the same power as a Jinchuuriki?You can’t actually prove that Seventh Gate Guy can’t defeat a Bijuu, considering that it was Sixth Gate Guy that was fighting the jinchūriki.
Also Kisame is directly stated to only be jinchūriki level in his strongest form so-
Where was it said that Kisame has the same power as a Jinchuuriki?
Thus, implying Deidara can't tank his own explosions.I don't care about Deidara scaling to 3-Tails or not. But I definitely know a fact that if Deidara eats a Tailed Beast Bomb from Isobu, then he gets vaporised and dies instantly.
No, the correct way to say it is "Eat a bag of dicks"Eat a dick
“putting out jinchūriki-like power…”Where was it said that Kisame has the same power as a Jinchuuriki?
This is clearly a reference to his chakra amount. In addition to the fact that Samehada is also mentioned as an important factor, this does not make he tier 6 equal to bijuus.
The correct way is to not encouage behavior like that.No, the correct way to say it is "Eat a bag of dicks"
The scan blatantly says power, not chakra amount, and literally nobody said he’s equal to a Bijuu. Being equal to a jinchūriki =/= equal to a Bijuu.This is clearly a reference to his chakra amount. In addition to the fact that Samehada is also mentioned as an important factor, this does not make he tier 6 equal to bijuus.
If one is going to behave like that they need to do it with some class or watch Bob Ross/listen to peaceful music. The only reason I didn't post some Bob Ross is because Tempest already unfollowed. I would rather joke around then waste my time telling someone who isn't even here anymore to calm down.The correct way is to not encouage behavior like that.
Wondering the Taste of that.No, the correct way to say it is "Eat a bag of dicks".
"You have a human who is able to wield every bit as much power as a Jinchuriki... Effectively a Bijuu without a Tail"This is clearly a reference to his chakra amount. In addition to the fact that Samehada is also mentioned as an important factor, this does not make he tier 6 equal to bijuus.
casually implies the amount of chakra is not relevant to power whatsoever.
Maybe i missed something, but I think this thread is exclusively for upgrading Kages, and there are arguments that even Akatsukis should escalate to bijuu.The scan blatantly says power, not chakra amount, and literally nobody said he’s equal to a Bijuu. Being equal to a jinchūriki =/= equal to a Bijuu.
Maybe leave the joking to a fun and games thread, not a CRT?If one is going to behave like that they need to do it with some class or watch Bob Ross/listen to peaceful music. The only reason I didn't post some Bob Ross is because Tempest already unfollowed. I would rather joke around then waste my time telling someone who isn't even here anymore to calm down.
Someone has to keep the mood light for the ones you get extremely seriousMaybe leave the joking to a fun and games thread, not a CRT?
Are you implying I don't? Lol.Also Charmander, the most biased person in this whole thread is me, I ****** hate Naruto.
I would make a pun about being biased but it would probably hurt the universe!Are you implying I don't? Lol.
I really hate this franchise with all my soul.
You made the claim that Seventh Gate Guy can’t defeat a Bijuu even though he defeated Kisame, I was explaining why Kisame is not Bijuu level (and why it doesn’t prevent Seventh Gate Guy from being that strong)Maybe i missed something, but I think this thread is exclusively for upgrading Kages, and there are arguments that even Akatsukis should escalate to bijuu.
No, not really. It’s unnecessary and unhelpful at best, derailing at worst.Someone has to keep the mood light for the ones you get extremely serious
Okay. I'm sorry for misinterpreted your message.You made the claim that Seventh Gate Guy can’t defeat a Bijuu even though he defeated Kisame, I was explaining why Kisame is not Bijuu level (and why it doesn’t prevent Seventh Gate Guy from being that strong)
Yeah, no need to. I would argue Tempest was biased too but he probably had something clouding his mind.I would make a pun about being biased but it would probably hurt the universe!
this is ridiculous, 3 tails has island level durability, even if he doesn't fight doesn't make his durability weakHe did defeat Three-Tails with relative ease, never implied a fight happened whatsoever, as this is not relevant for the scaling.
Not the place to try to present some sort of authority, I know who you are, I just don't give two *****. Focus on the argument instead.
Oh yeah, because there's no wrong scaling in VSBW. Let's pretend the Yonkou weren't Large Mountain Level a while ago, lmfao.
It was "weaker" in a general sense for lack of Intelligence, it was the direct reasoning provided by Deidara.
It's durability has no reason to change, therefore, the point is irrelevant.
Take a chill pill, Tempy.
You claimed the Bijuu was somehow literally weaker for lacking a host, as if his Durability and Raw Power would have changed because he could control it.
Read the scans you sent.
"Weaker" does not have a single meaning, try again.
Obito got stronger after absorbing something. DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE COMING!!!
I scaled Deidara to the Bijuu because he defeated it, what else would be relevant for my point other than the Durability, Tempy the Angry?
Hypocrite much?
You're at least thrice as "angry" as I supposedly was, and all I did was theorize you were ignorant about my point, or biased.
I scale Deidara to the Bijuu.
You bring up points that are either contrived or irrelevant, what should I think?
You're no authority to say that with a reply like that. You brought up a completely irrelevant attempt at refutation.
Oh really? Can you?
He never stated anything about that one explosion, he just said the clay did the heavy lifting.
Still, something happened offscreen as implied by Tobi.
Oh that's ironic, ain't it?
It's totally unrelated to my point.
Deidara's explosions scales above the Bijuu regardless of a fight, or the lack of it.
but the durability is still island level. also tail 2, they beat tail 2, where did hidan get that biju wound?The bijuu wasn't even fighting Deidara
that's ridiculous, he's never even been hit by an explosion and he won't even try to taste the bomb himselfThus, implying Deidara can't tank his own explosions.