Kage upgrade AP to Country level

[Baubawang11]

One, this should be properly calculated first, two it should be moved to a User Blog. And finally, we need to let our Calc Group members analyze it. Once the blog is made, it may be analyzed here.

I understand

 

[M3X_2.0]

You have to account for the distance and the Susano'o surface area. Here I calced Madara's Susano'o durability. It's Large Island level.

 

[Anime_Facts]

Has the map used for the calculation already been discarded for being fanmade?

 

[Baubawang11]

You have to account for the distance and the Susano'o surface area. Here I calced Madara's Susano'o durability. It's Large Island level.

What is tenpechi AP?

 

[M3X_2.0]

344.99867327915870874 Teratons

 

[Baubawang11]

344.99867327915870874 Teratons

Large country level, oke

 

[RisingIons]

1. Which susanoo stage are we referencing? Because Perfect Susanoo easily puts the 5 kage to rest. Not only that, as an Edo you’re weaker than your living counterpart, so if anything this speaks more to living Madara than the kage.

2. Ohnoki’s abilities negate durability.

3. Raikage had his weight massively altered by Ohnoki in combination with his abilities. Granted this doesn’t quite disprove the feat, but needing to be heavier to land a decent blow usually means your own power is lacking so you need physics (specifically kinetic energy) to grant you power beyond what you usually have. Madara supports this saying Tsunade hits even heavier than him with no boosts.

4. Mei’s lava negates durability by way of direct heat. It’s the reason why the entirety of team 7 avoided falling in Kaguya’s lava dimension, and why she could melt EMS Sasuke’s ribcage (which is weird because it implies amaterasu is less hot than lava but ok).

 

[M3X_2.0]

Which susanoo stage are we referencing? Because Perfect Susanoo easily puts the 5 kage to rest. Not only that, as an Edo you’re weaker than your living counterpart, so if anything this speaks more to living Madara than the kage.

Completely useless comment. Read the manga and you will know that the Susano'o Tsunade destroyed was the humanoid one. Being alive or an Edo doesn't really matter, the feat is from Edo Madara and Tsunade destroyed Edo Madara's Susano'o.

Raikage had his weight massively altered by Ohnoki in combination with his abilities. Granted this doesn’t quite disprove the feat, but needing to be heavier to land a decent blow usually means your own power is lacking so you need physics (specifically kinetic energy) to grant you power beyond what you usually have. Madara supports this saying Tsunade hits even heavier than him with no boosts.

That's why Ay has a "Amped by Onoki" Key.

 

[RisingIons]

“Completely useless comment.”
I don’t know who you think you’re talking to like that, you must be confused or something.

Anyway, I don’t know your definition of “destroyed”, she only managed to knock one down. The best feats are amped Raikage performing a punch that looks like it went through the humanoid form. Other than that, it took both amped Raikage and Regen Mode Tsunade to crack and break his rib cage.

Either way, this looks like it isn’t being accepted so I’m unfollowing the thread now.

 

[M3X_2.0]

I don’t know who you think you’re talking to like that, you must be confused or something.

I quoted your comment, then it's you who I'm talking to. Tsunade destroyed only one form of the Susano'o, the humanoid one. Why even ask "Which susanoo stage are we referencing?" if that's something obvious? Did you even read the war arc properly?

Anyway, I don’t know your definition of “destroyed”, she only managed to knock one down. The best feats are amped Raikage performing a punch that looks like it went through the humanoid form. Other than that, it took both amped Raikage and Regen Mode Tsunade to crack and break his rib cage.

Doesn't matter. She cracked the Susano'o while the Tenppechi did nothing to it. She scales.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

I entirely agree with the upgrade. A lot of high tiers are able to match and defeat lower tier Bijuu's with relative ease. Kakashi, Tsunade, and others are entirely capable of defeating Akatsuki Members like Deidara, who can beat Bijuu's as well, so it's not all inconsistent (And Naruto has an Island Level feat with his Rasenshuriken, no?)

they've been stuck in Mountain Level for quite some time, and honestly, it never made sense to me personally.

 

[Baubawang11]

I entirely agree with the upgrade. A lot of high tiers are able to match and defeat lower tier Bijuu's with relative ease. Kakashi, Tsunade, and others are entirely capable of defeating Akatsuki Memebrs like Deidara, who can beat Bijuu's as well, so it's not all inconsistent (And Naruto has an Island Level feat with his Rasenshuriken, no?)

they've been stuck in Mountain Level for quite some time, and honestly, it never made sense to me personally.

Oh yeah, i know if deidara oneshot a biju make him atleast small country level with fullpower without c0

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Oh yeah, i know if deidara oneshot a biju make him atleast small country level with fullpower without c0

The Bijū aren't even Low 6-B, man. They're currently 6-C.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Also, this isn't the thread to discuss Bijū scaling. That'll probably come later when the Part II AP revisions roll around.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

The Bijū aren't even Low 6-B, man. They're currently 6-C.

My point was just: Mountain Level for High Tiers is absolute bullshit.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Indeed, they will be downgraded to Low 7-B soon.

 

[Baubawang11]

Indeed, they will be downgraded to Low 7-B soon.

But hachibi tanked laser from biju atleast continent+ level

 

[M3X_2.0]

Yeah, then Ay cut his horn, thus Ay is Continent level+. GG Wank.

 

[Baubawang11]

Yeah, then Ay cut his horn, thus Ay is Continent level+. GG Wank.

That attack cut his tails btw but can't kill him

 

[Nullflowerblush]

But it did harm him.

 

[Baubawang11]

Yeah, then Ay cut his horn, thus Ay is Continent level+. GG Wank.

But according feats, why not?
A the strongest raikage all of time and hachibi can't kill him even hurt ay.

Chorujo's attack was able to injure Kinshiki, Sasuke was only able to injure his horns. chojuro is also not MHS+ , at least he dodged kinshiki's attacks several times and it was close to naruto's base speed ( REL ) when he kept up with kinshiki

 

[Baubawang11]

Yeah, then Ay cut his horn, thus Ay is Continent level+. GG Wank.

Talk about speed in sakura hiden

Sai was even able to dodge several lightning strikes and none of them hit him then he also dodged several balls of light but ended up getting hit

Sai rel with dodged ball of light or sub-rel with dodged multiple lighting attack from anbu

 

[M3X_2.0]

man

 

[LightReinh12345]

Why am I not surprised that this brand new user, with less than twenty posts total and has a Boruto profile pic is going around posting CRTs to try and upgrade Kaguya now upgrade the Kages?

@Baubawang11; are you somebody's alt? Have you done any research at all into why characters currently have the statistics they do? Why are you first actions on this forum to post massive upgrade CRT's for one of the most debated and revised verses on here?

Thats pretty rude bro for someone new to asking him whether he is somebody's alt

anyway i disagree with the op its looks like tanking an environmental destruction

 

[M3X_2.0]

Enviromental Destruction? Yeah maybe the storm, hurricanes and lightnings, but you forgot that Tenppechi creates a huge crater. Madara was near Jūbi and the feat was calced amd even accepted iirc as High 6-C.

 

[Damage3245]

Thats pretty rude bro for someone new to asking him whether he is somebody's alt

Maybe I'm just not used to new users so much, but when somebody appears with a fresh account and posts three controversial CRT's in less than two days, I get suspicious, perhaps undeservedly so in which case I apologize if the user is actually new and means well.

 

[LightReinh12345]

Thats different i talked about tanking the whole Continental thing which they didnt Tank the environment destruction full yield
& to me Kages & Akatsuki members scales to bijuus regardless

 

[Baubawang11]

Maybe I'm just not used to new users so much, but when somebody appears with a fresh account and posts three controversial CRT's in less than two days, I get suspicious, perhaps undeservedly so in which case I apologize if the user is actually new and means well.

no problem, I'm wrong here
In the next 2 days I will post something

 

[Nouzen]

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[Baubawang11]

Lawak lo wibu

 

[GodlyCharmander]

By the way, my man is using a fanmade map to do his calc.
Nah, I don't agree with the calc, I just think Kages shouldn't be Mountain Level as they clearly scale comparatively to Bijuu.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Lightning Armor Ay, at the very least, should be on the level of Tailed Beasts, since Karin compared his power to that of Gyuki, which would upgrade Tsunade.

 

[LordTracer]

Karin compared the amount of chakra he had to a Bijuu, she didn’t directly say his strength was on par with the Eight-Tails. It is, but that’s for other reasons

 

[DaReaperMan]

I'll watch and wait. Neither side truly makes sense to me, so neutral

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Lightning Armor Ay, at the very least, should be on the level of Tailed Beasts, since Karin compared his power to that of Gyuki, which would upgrade Tsunade.

Gaara gave Deidara far more trouble than an actual Bijuu too.

 

[KingTempest]

Gaara gave Deidara far more trouble than an actual Bijuu too.

The bijuu wasn't even fighting Deidara

 

[WrongIdea21]

I know this guy From Facebook, nice to Meet you here, LMAO

 

[GodlyCharmander]

The bijuu wasn't even fighting Deidara

Deidara defeated Sanbi (Sanji???) with relative ease, yet, he had difficulties with a restricted Gaara.

Before you say "It was offscreened and Tobi might've helped", it was confirmed in the Databook.

 

[KingTempest]

Deidara defeated Sanbi (Sanji???) with relative ease, yet, he had difficulties with a restricted Gaara.

Before you say "It was offscreened and Tobi might've helped", it was confirmed in the Databook.

We saw how he did it in the manga. There was no fight.

And they flat out say that the Bijuu was WEAKER for lacking a host.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

We saw how he did it in the manga. There was no fight.

Irrelevant for the scaling and point I'm trying to make, stop being dishonest. And if you truly believe Deidara just one shot the Bijuu, then it's just more impressive.
Bijuu's can tank their own Bijuu Bombs, end of story.

and they flat out say that the Bijuu was WEAKER for lacking a host.

Dishonesty again, it's blatantly stated it's due to lack of intelligence, it wouldn't change jack shit about the Bijuu's durability and raw power. You're either being biased, or ignorant. In both cases, I am not really interested in debating with you.