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Ichigo vs Saber

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Kerry Saber has the same strength stat as Shirou Saber. The only difference between both of them getting bullied by their respective Berserkers is that Kerry Saber didnt have to deal with God Hand which ignores how strong you are for the most part and only gives a shit about A rank.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Kerry Saber has the same strength stat as Shirou Saber. The only difference between both of them getting bullied by their respective Berserkers is that Kerry Saber didnt have to deal with God Hand which ignores how strong you are for the most part and only gives a shit about A rank.
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Saber doesn't only rely on strength - She had more mana for mana burst in Zero.
 
The difference isn't big enough for ichigo to win.

Here's the fight

Saber slashes

Ichigo blocks it with his hand and tosses the blade or anything for that matter, and goes to town with the strength gap

Herc can't do that, Ichigo can.
 
Mana Burst doesn't matter. It is what gives her her stats in the first place. And the more mana was spent on buffing her other stats.

Thing with using the str parameter and inverse logic is that, Herc = Salter/Rin Saber (stated for the first and all have A str). Lance scales via having A and bullying Kerry Saber like Herc did Shirou Saber. Both Kerry and Shirou were able to catch blows from A ranks. Only difference is that Kerry didnt have to deal with God Hand's elitism negging all og her shit bar Excalibur (which he slapped anyway).
 
So .... Saber's way to beat Ichigo ...... is to put a hole in his chest ..... which we know will just give Zangetsu more control ..... and go Full Hollow as seen when stronger beings used stronger attacks on him?

Damn I want to see that animated
 
AnonymousBlank said:
So .... Saber's way to beat Ichigo ...... is to put a hole in his chest ..... which we know will just give Zangetsu more control ..... and go Full Hollow as seen when stronger beings used stronger attacks on him?

Damn I want to see that animated
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Excaliblast maybe?
 
AnonymousBlank said:
So .... Saber's way to beat Ichigo ...... is to put a hole in his chest ..... which we know will just give Zangetsu more control ..... and go Full Hollow as seen when stronger beings used stronger attacks on him?
Damn I want to see that animated
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No there won't be a chest left.
 
Won't be a chest left? Tell that to Ulquiorra's Cero which is even stronger than Excalibur and has enough AOE to completely envelop Ichigo's entire body from point blank range (as in Ichigo was standing inches from Ulq).
 
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Won't be a chest left? Tell that to Ulquiorra's Cero which is even stronger than Excalibur and has enough AOE to completely envelop Ichigo's entire body from point blank range (as in Ichigo was standing inches from Ulq).
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Ichigo was stronger against Ulquiorra.
 
Ah shit I forgot about Excaliblasting.

Yeah no Ichigo just gets vanished by 6-C Excaliblast. The area of effect is too large for him to effectively dodge, and as seen quite a few times, it rarely leaves something behind, almost never enough for Low-Mid regen to recover from.

Ichigo won't be able to regen from missing well over half his body from an Excaliblast.
 
KnightOfSunlight said:
Inversely, Fate Saber gets AP stomped.
So in other words, either Saber stomps with Excaliblast, or Ichigo stomps with raw normal AP.
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Zero Saber is rated Mountain level+ like Saber under Rin.
 
@Tdtd

Its called revision limbo (T-T)

@Upgrade

Its looking to be an AP stomp with just Bankai or maybe even Shikai Ichigo.

@Knight

Refer back to Ichigo only getting a hole in his chest from an attack that hits his entire body from point blank and is stronger than Excalibur just from a scaling chain. See also Herc getting hit with it and getting his torso split open. Thats low mid to regen which Zangetsu has.
 
And Herc has only ever been hit by Mountain Level+ Excalibur, not Island Level Excalibur.

Sayng that a 7-A can survive a 6-C attack is a big no.
 
Honestly, even steelmanning Excalibur completely annihilating Ichigo's body, Zangetsu slaps her no diff before she uses her beam sword.
 
KnightOfSunlight said:
And Herc has only ever been hit by Mountain Level+ Excalibur, not Island Level Excalibur.
Sayng that a 7-A can survive a 6-C attack is a big no.
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And by Calinurn that killed him seven times over
 
That's if Z-man comes out before Excaliblast, which is unlikely since that requires Ichigo to be put at death's door.

Basically, they fight for a while, with Sber being pressured and falling behind, then Saber pulls Excalibur and yeets.
 
@anon

The cero that killed Ichigo did not hit his entire body though it only hit that part of his chest.
 
Same for me, heck Arturia's Excaliblast might just straight up blow up MORE than his chest, and since we don't know if Ichigo can regenerate a damaged brain for example or more than a heart
 
...... anyone care to explain why she doesn't get swatted like a fly in the first 3 seconds? Excalibur isn't valid reasoning by itself when she doesn't just drop it at the start of the fight unless she is going into a NP clash.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
...... anyone care to explain why she doesn't get swatted like a fly in the first 3 seconds? Excalibur isn't valid reasoning by itself when she doesn't just drop it at the start of the fight unless she is going into a NP clash.
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She outskills him and has precognition.
 
The reason servants are hesitant to use nps in the series is because it reveals their identity which is bad for a grail war

A servant wouldn't care about that outside of a grail war
 
Because this is Bankai Ichigo, who is above her but not enough for an immediate stomp.

Zero Saber = Rin Saber > Fate Saber > HF Shirou > Angra Mainyu > Mountain Level

Definite advantage to Ichigo, but not a 3 second no fun allowed stomp.
 
I'm wondering this as well, she won't ever get the opportunity to use it. I'm not even sure he'd get hit considering Shunpo travel take you like a couple miles in a single step if needed. Plus he tanked a 6-C attack already.
 
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