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Ichigo vs Saber
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There's not much going on in that thread, people suggest shit and that's usually it. They get a place without any real debate and then move on. That shouldn't even be considered in a thread like this.
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Have people forgotten that the strength difference is enough for Ichigo to overpower Saber in a block
The fights where people say "Saber can't get hit unless there's a skill or Precog gap which Ichigo doesn't have" is not only downplay as Ichigo is pretty solid in his own right, but Saber cannot afford to block or deflect attacks due to the strength difference.
The fights where people say "Saber can't get hit unless there's a skill or Precog gap which Ichigo doesn't have" is not only downplay as Ichigo is pretty solid in his own right, but Saber cannot afford to block or deflect attacks due to the strength difference.
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..... not really no. Sword saints obviously skill stomp, Karna stomps, insane Herc stomps, Cu, Scathach, Lancelot, Gawain, Siegfried, Sigurd, Bryn, Arthur, Archer, Diarmuid etc etc all are better in skill than her. Who does Saber ever beat that she doesn't out stat, counter or have the fight interrupted?
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Fight defensively and was still losing handily while Zangetsu can catch her best hits with his barehands, let alone his sword that is then amped by GT.
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You mean the person who is not only far weaker then Ichiho but Saber would have died against if Archer didn't assist? And if Illiya didn't back off?
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He is talking about a different fight Gar, not the UBW church fight.
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"Saber's body sinks every time she blocks a blow, and she slowly approaches her final moment." "----But still, where in that small frame does she have all that power?
Saber doesn't retreat. She blocks the surging waves of the giant sword and tries to drive back Berserker with her willpower. There is no chance of victory. The way she's holding her ground looks bizarre, as she should know she will be defeated if she keeps fighting. "
Fresh blood spills out
Only prolonging the inevitable.
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I'm ignoring the skill gap because it's moot due to the strength that you keep ignoring.
Skill doesn't save you from strength, and the Heracles fight makes that clear
Skill doesn't save you from strength, and the Heracles fight makes that clear
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Plays out exactly the same anywayAnonymousBlank said:
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Skill>Strength.
Not voting on this, but if you want a clear example of Skill>Strength, Killua vs Youpi, or all of HxH as a whole.
Not voting on this, but if you want a clear example of Skill>Strength, Killua vs Youpi, or all of HxH as a whole.
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Heracles skill doesn't surpass Saber in mad enhancement.
Ichigo can block blows with the strength of Heracles with a Finger, show me Saber fighting someone that much stronger and we'll talk.
Ichigo can block blows with the strength of Heracles with a Finger, show me Saber fighting someone that much stronger and we'll talk.
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VN takes massive priority especially since she struggles far more in the VN against Herc
She also comments that he is skilled, not more skilled then her.
Address the strength gap between Heracles and Ichigo, who blocks blows from people as strong as Herc, with his finger.
VN takes massive priority especially since she struggles far more in the VN against Herc
She also comments that he is skilled, not more skilled then her.
Address the strength gap between Heracles and Ichigo, who blocks blows from people as strong as Herc, with his finger.
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Note that the 657 is passive from Hitsugaya no longer holding back and is consistent with Kenny as a patchless Kenpachi casually one shots the 10th Kenpachi who would scale to Shikai Tenso Jurin which is 513 megatons iirc. Honestly, just make this Bankai Ichigo and he still wins.AnonymousBlank said:
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Strength was a factor, especially when Saber could only somewhat parry his blows.Schnee One said:
God Hand helped, but the strength difference between Ichigo and Herc is massive.
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Not "Block people stronger then Herc with a finger flick" Massive
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Byakuya
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There was a stats difference between masters wasn't Emiya the master during Herc Vs Saber???
This is Tohsaka Rins's stats
This is Tohsaka Rins's stats
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Chapter?
Ask Anon for that, he said that happened this thread but I don't recall the exact chapter.
Ask Anon for that, he said that happened this thread but I don't recall the exact chapter.
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I gotchu Gar. Note that there is a page between these two but its just Ichigo' internal monologue of self pity and an attmept to psyche himself up. Chapter 165 if you wanna read it yourself.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sCnDug3qOo4/Vi8PzjyqQcI/AAAAAAABQyQ/RAP2B_avTRI/s16000/0165-016.jpg
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This is her stats with Emiya Kiritusugu
This is Hercules stats on Grand Order
This is Hercules stats on Grand Order
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in terms of Strength stat Hercules > Rin Tohsaka as master Saber = Emiya Kiritsugu as Sabers master > Emiya Shirou as sabers master. Strength stat only
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We know, we established that Heracles is stronger then Fate Saber earlier
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The saber that got manhandled by hercules was Emiya Shirou as a master.
We are using Fate/zero Saber whom has a higher strength stat... don't know if that matters...
We are using Fate/zero Saber whom has a higher strength stat... don't know if that matters...
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It doesn't, we established the strength gap between Heracles and Ichigo
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Zero Saber scales to Heracles, and again, Ichigo is much stronger then that gap.
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Numbers are number. Saber in Stay Night is stronger than Saber Zero however there's still a number that she scales to and Ichigo scales above a higher number than what Saber scales to.
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