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Plays out exactly the same anywayAnonymousBlank said:He is talking about a different fight Gar, not the UBW church fight.
When did he block an attack with a finger?Schnee One said:Heracles skill doesn't surpass Saber in mad enhancement.
Ichigo can block blows with the strength of Heracles with a Finger, show me Saber fighting someone that much stronger and we'll talk.
Note that the 657 is passive from Hitsugaya no longer holding back and is consistent with Kenny as a patchless Kenpachi casually one shots the 10th Kenpachi who would scale to Shikai Tenso Jurin which is 513 megatons iirc. Honestly, just make this Bankai Ichigo and he still wins.AnonymousBlank said:Mask Bankai >> Bankai >= Bankai Byakuya > Bankai training Shikai >= Shikai Byakuya > base Byakuya >= post Kenny Shikai >= patchless SS Kenny = Bankai Toshiro = 657 megatons
Saber wasn't losing because of AP but because her attacks couldn't get past godhand.Schnee One said:<Anime
VN takes massive priority especially since she struggles far more in the VN against Herc
She also comments that he is skilled, not more skilled then her.
Address the strength gap between Heracles and Ichigo, who blocks blows from people as strong as Herc, with his finger.
Strength was a factor, especially when Saber could only somewhat parry his blows.Schnee One said:"Saber's body sinks every time she blocks a blow, and she slowly approaches her final moment."
And the difference between Herc and saber is also massive.Schnee One said:Strength was a factor, especially when Saber could only somewhat parry his blows.Schnee One said:"Saber's body sinks every time she blocks a blow, and she slowly approaches her final moment."
God Hand helped, but the strength difference between Ichigo and Herc is massive.
When did he block an attack with a finger?Schnee One said:Not "Block people stronger then Herc with a finger flick" Massive
Chapter?Schnee One said:Byakuya
He didn't block it with a finger he caught with his hand when Byakuya thought Ichigo couldn't move anymore.Schnee One said:Ask Anon for that, he said that happened this thread but I don't recall the exact chapter.
There is also a strength gap between Fate saber and Zero saber.Schnee One said:It doesn't, we established the strength gap between Heracles and Ichigo
The difference isn't big enough for ichigo to win.Schnee One said:Zero Saber scales to Heracles, and again, Ichigo is much stronger then that gap.