Nasuverse: 6-C Mages

[DaReaperMan]

physically strong mages should be upgraded to 6-c+ due to scaling off kuzuki and a few others

And apparently the physically weak ones too considering the Fujimaru argument

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

You can be 10-C and dislocate a shoulder or wrist, or even most joints if you're good enough

thats a regular human, not a physically strong magic ghost who cant even be harmed most of the time without mystery

 

[CRIMPSUMPSKI2]

What even was the OG discussion point?

It's about whether FSN mages scale to 1/10th of Servant level.

 

[DaReaperMan]

you're forgetting the fact that ritsuka had to use mash's shield to defend himself

Prove he picked up Mash's shield. The movie breaks scaling in so many ways and we can't pick and choose from it.

Also, Solomon/Romani only stepped in after Mash got her ass vaporized IIRC

 

[DaReaperMan]

thats a regular human, not a physically strong magic ghost who cant even be harmed most of the time without mystery

And Servants have this nasty tendency to be built kinda like humans.

 

[Violatas]

TBH I do agree with it being rebuilt from the ground up, but really, what should be done is just working on the current profiles one by one, only the most irredeemable and stonewalled verses should be outright deleted, like Warcraft was

I'd agree but like. That's kinda hard to do since most staff members are straight up scared to even bother commenting on Nasuverse anymore lol. Most threads just die.

And just by how this thread is going, that's partially because of how the verse is currently handled. Being real I don't think it's redeemable as it stands right now.

 

[Migue79]

It's about whether FSN mages scale to 1/10th of Servant level.

Don’t Shirou, Rin, Sakura, Kirei and Kuzuki already scale to 6-C?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Don’t Shirou, Rin, Sakura, Kirei and Kuzuki already scale to 6-C?

They mean physically. Like outright.

 

[CRIMPSUMPSKI2]

Don’t Shirou, Rin, Sakura, Kirei and Kuzuki already scale to 6-C?

They scale to High 6-C with amps and projections, I'm arguing that their 9-A keys should be 6-C.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

And Servants have this nasty tendency to be built kinda like humans.

Q: The mages call Heroic Spirits “Boundary Recording Bands (Ghost Liners),” but is this the actual terminology? And what does it symbolize? <Someone at the far end>

Nasu: They are not minions created by the Mages themselves, but minions called forth from the history of humanity itself, so they use the term “Ghost Liners” with the nuance that they are “calling forth a phenomenon that was once recorded.” It’s a liner based on the perception that servants are not living creatures but something more like scrolls and documents.
Takeuchi: Oh, I see. It is true that Heroic Spirits is the common name and doesn’t sound like a Magecraft concept.
Nasu: It’s a term that’s been around from the beginning of the beginning of Fate, even before I wrote the scenarios. But when Lord El-Melloi II’s Case Files was starting up, Mita asked me, “Is there an official term to address Heroic Spirits?” and I presented him with the term. To have it show up in the series world view after 15 years kinda ruins the mood.
Takeuchi: Says the guy who’s been holding back a ton of settings for 20, even 30 years.

 

[CRIMPSUMPSKI2]

They mean physically. Like outright.

Most of them use Reinforcement iirc so their actual bodies would probably be like 10-A

 

[DaReaperMan]

I'd agree but like. That's kinda hard to do since most staff members are straight up scared to even bother commenting on Nasuverse anymore lol. Most threads just die.

And just by how this thread is going, that's partially because of how the verse is currently handled. Being real I don't think it's redeemable as it stands right now.

And yet you can bug some into doing it, especially when most of what you're doing is unfucking ass profiles lol

 

[Violatas]

Holy hell my notifs are lagging like crazy with how fast replies are coming in

 

[DaReaperMan]

Most of them use Reinforcement iirc so their actual bodies would probably be like 10-A

That shit ain't what's being argued here!

@BasedNecoScaler69 why the FETH are you using the WoG of Nasu again???

 

[Violatas]

And yet you can bug some into doing it, especially when most of what you're doing is unfucking ass profiles lol

looks at how I've asked 4 staff members to comment on a Nasuverse thread doing this and none have.

Lol. I wish

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

And yet you can bug some into doing it, especially when most of what you're doing is unfucking ass profiles lol

Holy hell my notifs are lagging like crazy with how fast replies are coming in

any revamps, at least on the tsukiside are kinda on halt until far side comes out

 

[Migue79]

Ah.

I mean he wouldn’t be wrong if you use Fate/Unlimited codes tbf, but that a can of worms so I’ll leave it out xd

I disagree with that, then. The fact that they need to actively amp themselves to keep up and do shit to Servants means they shouldn’t physically scale unless you’re Heaven’s Feel or Miyuverse Shirou.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Lol. I wish

Ya didn't get the right staff

Individuals like @DarkDragonMedeus and @Theglassman12 are usually willing to comment on just about any CRT

 

[Migue79]

Also, I remember there being a statement about how Kerry & Prime Kirei could defeat Assassin & Caster under specific circumstances but not the other Servants. So… that’s an oofers.

 

[Violatas]

Ya didn't get the right staff

Individuals like @DarkDragonMedeus and @Theglassman12 are usually willing to comment on just about any CRT

DarkDragon is one I did ask lol

 

[DaReaperMan]

Ah.

I mean he wouldn’t be wrong if you use Fate/Unlimited codes tbf, but that a can of worms so I’ll leave it out xd

I disagree with that, then. The fact that they need to actively amp themselves to keep up and do shit to Servants means they shouldn’t physically scale unless you’re Heaven’s Feel or Miyuverse Shirou.

Shirou is the only good thing about Kaleid. So is his movie.

 

[DaReaperMan]

DarkDragon is one I did ask lol

Then bump the comment, they got like 5 billion notifications on their wall lol

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Also, I remember there being a statement about how Kerry & Prime Kirei could defeat Assassin & Caster under specific circumstances but not the other Servants. So… that’s an oofers.

still a island level feat though

 

[Violatas]

any revamps, at least on the tsukiside are kinda on halt until far side comes out

I'm referring to OG Tsukihime btw. The thread I made to remove the 50% BS and move the EXTRA key to Extra Arcueid's profile. I've asked 4 staff members to comment and none have

 

[CRIMPSUMPSKI2]

That shit ain't what's being argued here!

Shirou and Rin would at least

Also, I remember there being a statement about how Kerry & Prime Kirei could defeat Assassin & Caster under specific circumstances but not the other Servants. So… that’s an oofers.

A 10x gap is that big

 

[Deagonx]

Other than the FGO statement, what island level feats have servants done?

 

[DaReaperMan]

any revamps, at least on the tsukiside are kinda on halt until far side comes out

The only reason I haven't unfucked individuals like, say, Gilgamesh yet is because I can't be ****** to go out and **** with everything he's involved in again. I might unfuck Caster Gil tho.

 

[CRIMPSUMPSKI2]

I'm referring to OG Tsukihime btw. The thread I made to remove the 50% BS and move the EXTRA key to Extra Arcueid's profile. I've asked 4 staff members to comment and none have

I'm cooking up 6-B OG Melty dw

 

[Violatas]

Then bump the comment, they got like 5 billion notifications on their wall lol

They've all commented on threads they've been notified on after I requested their presence, so it seems kinda moot lol

 

[CRIMPSUMPSKI2]

I disagree with that, then. The fact that they need to actively amp themselves to keep up and do shit to Servants means they shouldn’t physically scale unless you’re Heaven’s Feel or Miyuverse Shirou.

the argument isn't that they're Servant level straight up, it's that they scale to 10% Servant level.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Other than the FGO statement, what island level feats have servants done?

Paul Bunyan did one, Pretty sure one happened in S7, you have a statement in S3... there's a good chunk of em... In Fate/Grand Order of course!

 

[Deagonx]

I also love how we just assume Shirou is physically amped inside the UBW in order to reconcile the fact he clowned on Gilgamesh, even though the only way he benefited from UBW was he could deflect GoB weapons.

 

[DaReaperMan]

They've all commented on threads they've been notified on after I requested their presence, so it seems kinda moot lol

Harassme- I mean asking them again to comment usually works

 

[Violatas]

It's convos like these why staff are afraid to comment on Nasuverse threads btw LOL.

 

[Migue79]

Nuke the verse pages to oblivion. Debating this verse is unending pain.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I also love how we just assume Shirou is physically amped inside the UBW in order to reconcile the fact he clowned on Gilgamesh, even though the only way he benefited from UBW was he could deflect GoB weapons.

TBF any Shirou with UBW has fought ******* out of their league at least once sans EMIYA Alter. So it's surprisingly one of the few consistent things.

Also Gil was canonically out of character for F/SN lol

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I also love how we just assume Shirou is physically amped inside the UBW in order to reconcile the fact he clowned on Gilgamesh, even though the only way he benefited from UBW was he could deflect GoB weapons.

did you miss the part where ubw is modifying shirou's body to a bunch of projected nps

 

[CRIMPSUMPSKI2]

Nuke the verse pages to oblivion. Debating this verse is unending pain.

Nasuverse thread try to stay on topic for 2 seconds challenge (impossible)

 

[Deagonx]

Nuke the verse pages to oblivion. Debating this verse is unending pain.

It's because of a handful of the people who gravitate these threads are constantly obstinate and difficult. It's similar to TR.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

It's because of a handful of the people who gravitate these threads are constantly obstinate and difficult. It's similar to TR.

it's because every single one of your proposals gets rejected