High School DxD Universe Discussion Thread

[TotalMasterInfinity]

Could you share what volumes these are from?

Slashdog Volume 2

When were these mentioned?

Dx Volumen 5 and 6

A lot of these placements are wrong ngl.

I'm not going to have this discussion again, I already told you that doing what you want at the end of the day doesn't affect much what will be done later, it's already clear to me that you don't understand what is considered a BxB and what isn't, and how Azazel's new BxB ranking system works.

When was this mentioned?

Dx Volume 4

 

[BlackeJan]

It’s fanon, partially caused by the anime. Most Rias haters are working off of a misunderstanding lol.

Was it different in the LN?

 

[BlackeJan]

Rias never wanted anyone in her peerage to die.

Everyone else was because of circumstances but with Issei, she literally needed him on deaths door for her to do the thing

 

[Pepsiman25th]

lost notifs

 

[MasqueTLDF]

I'm not going to have this discussion again, I already told you that doing what you want at the end of the day doesn't affect much what will be done later, it's already clear to me that you don't understand what is considered a BxB and what isn't, and how Azazel's new BxB ranking system works.

Sure bro

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Everyone else was because of circumstances but with Issei, she literally needed him on deaths door for her to do the thing

Not really, if she had known of Issei possessing the Boosted Gear sooner, she could've easily made him a part of her peerage. Not really a reason why Issei would need to be dead to become a pawn.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Qliphoth Bacikal/Sandbox7

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Made more updates, included some stuff @MasqueTLDF had. You know what, when we make the thread to include the abilities, we can just start using the new modern look for the profiles. We can slowly do it and add scans/references as the revisions go on.

We still have to decide death manipulation or void manipulation for the dimensional gap.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Really, IC kinda seems lazy to me on paper if you look at it. It may not have ALL of DL and AM's abilities, it's still just a composite of it if you look at all of its known descriptions.

There should be some difference. I feel Innovate Clear can probably create actual human beings or something close to that, whereas Annihilation Maker seems to be limited to monsters.

I haven't read SD in a long while but really? Is it SD 2?
Edit: Dimension Lost's base state does possess the ability to "reinforce dimensions" as well unlike the other SG.
"It was at that moment. The space that was starting to go away was enveloped by mist. The blurry scenery then went back to normal, as if this space was reinforced by the mist. I was familiar with this mist! —At the same time, I could hear a voice." Shin 3

Yeah. A mist that can teleport others.

And yes.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

It’s fanon, partially caused by the anime. Most Rias haters are working off of a misunderstanding lol.

Add the hate of Issei haters too.

That's pretty much the majority of DxD fanfic writers on Wattpad who shit on Rias and Issei due to their knowledge of them coming from the anime lol.

Even in the anime, there was nothing Rias could do. Devils can only have personal interactions with Humans if they're summoned, if she interfered with Raynare and the others, it could've started a war, and there wasn't really reason for her to stop it anyway. Stopping every single death is kinda foolish, why would she prioritize the life of one random boy over the lives of every other human?

In the LN, she only came to know of the situation as she was summoned by Issei, in the anime, she knew a few hours prior but had no reason to stop it FRA.

Not really although it is different than the manga and Source Material

All of this, basically.

The anime does deviate/shift/change/remove things here and there, but ultimately still follows the events of canon to the end if in their own way.

S3 DxD may have been the point of anime talks I've seen on reddit, but so is the first two seasons as it had stuff that's very different than what the LN (source mat) and even the manga have done. S1 alone iirc had like Koneko follow along on Issei by spying on him up until I presume his original death as a Human from Raynare, plus Raynare having that buxom form (ayyy tho owo) when she only just grows wings on her back from the LN and manga.

And then there's ofc the thing regarding on Rias knowing about the situation or having interest in Issei beforehand vs not even knowing about him until she got summoned by him on death's door. There's also other stuff I remember that got shifted about that didn't happen yet like Issei doing Dress Break on Kalawarnar, yet he wouldn't actually learn that tech til the next volume in the conflict with Riser.

And this is only like a fraction of the differences done in the anime compared to the LN and manga at that.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

There should be some difference. I feel Innovate Clear can probably create actual human beings or something close to that, whereas Annihilation Maker seems to be limited to monsters.

Point.

It's still kinda a composite of the two, if still different. So pretty much it is yet not a composite of the two other SG Longinus's.

Though if one were to reinvent Innovate as literally combining Dimension Lost and Annihilation Maker's abilities together into one, that could literally be broken af.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I just took a look at some of the old profiles like Kokabiel's and damn...we really do got to get around to improving them, lol. Intelligence, stamina, etc.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

@Burning_Full_Fingers

Definitely lolol

Pretty sure even the current profiles we got need a lot of reworking. Not just calls for AP, maybe even speed too if anything unless speed's fine as is (although it kinda would help to give some scaling we can go for at the lower tiers...unless we already got that?). Lifting strength is another one too. If there's anything useful there, we can get those for anyone that have feats that scale them with.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Burning_Full_Fingers

Definitely lolol

Pretty sure even the current profiles we got need a lot of reworking. Not just calls for AP, maybe even speed too if anything unless speed's fine as is (although it kinda would help to give some scaling we can go for at the lower tiers...unless we already got that?). Lifting strength is another one too. If there's anything useful there, we can get those for anyone that have feats that scale them with.

Yeah, we can start as soon as we get the abilities updated.

Don’t think low tiers have speed feats aside from being vaguely superhuman or FTE.

The only lifting strength feats I remember are Sairaorg lifting Grendel and Shooting Star’s Rook throwing a small mountain, both of which are in the profiles already.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Qliphoth Bacikal/Sandbox7

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In addition to including @MasqueTLDF suggestions for Issei, I added a few things for Wukong, Trihexa, Rossweisse, Kokabiel and Rizevim. I am mostly done, so I guess I will also add Azazel’s optional tech as abilities for him.

I have a few questions:

1. About the Spatial Manipulation, what is the relevance? Is it to give the characters resistance to spatial manipulation in general? Technically, random characters have warped space with their aura so it is nothing special.

2. I remember @TotalMasterInfinity suggested Blazing Inferno regeneration negation and some other things, but I don’t think it should have those because Issei mentions that the special flame ended up with different properties.

So their technique was developed using Ddraig's inextinguishable flame breath, [Blazing Inferno of Scorching Flames] as the basis, huh?

“Did you use it without knowing its effects, by any chance?”

When I asked this, Riser said embarrassedly.

“Yes. That is why we didn't do enough research to find out what effect the flames would have on the opponent in addition to the damage they'd cause. ...But, I see, so you're saying that those flames even inflicted burns that the current Chief God of the Norse can't heal, huh?”

They used it in a rush. Therefore, they didn't know its effects. ...But Vidar-san ―― even a God can't heal himself from the damage inflicted by those flames... I wonder if that means that they have developed another terrifying flame, which is different from Ddraig's [Blazing Inferno of Scorching Flames]?

Perhaps, Typhon, who was hit by the phoenixes’ combined flame technique with Vidar-san, may not have healed from the burns too.

 

[TotalMasterInfinity]

Characters with certain levels of power are supposed to be able to break/cut space with physical, energetic attacks or their simple presence, although such attacks by their nature should ignore durability we never see this happen.
Sairaorg and Issei had a fist fight where their punches broke space but we didn't see anything like their attacks bypassing each other's durability.

Xenovia and Strada had a sword fight where each slash cut through space but we didn't see anything like their attacks bypassing each other's durability.

The only explanation would be that they had resistance.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Characters with certain levels of power are supposed to be able to break/cut space with physical, energetic attacks or their simple presence, although such attacks by their nature should ignore durability we never see this happen.
Sairaorg and Issei had a fist fight where their punches broke space but we didn't see anything like their attacks bypassing each other's durability.

Xenovia and Strada had a sword fight where each slash cut through space but we didn't see anything like their attacks bypassing each other's durability.

The only explanation would be that they had resistance.

Sure, it’s pretty blatant since anyone can tank space compression with enough aura and whatever. Or like, Fenrir being trapped in a spatial dislocation and tearing it apart with his fangs. No one really even commented on that.

The question is, how to explain on the sandbox so we can proceed. Do you agree on the Blazing Inferno issue btw?

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Qliphoth Bacikal/Sandbox7

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Sorry for not responding sooner, I've been working on the Sacred Gear sandbox. I agree with most of this, just think that the Dragon Physiology should apply to Post Volume 11 rather than Volume 14 onwards.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

In front of Vali and I — the seventh head had already woken up entirely!

Gyoooooooooooohhh! Zuooooooooohhh! Gyooooooooohhh!

The seven heads were howling out individually—. The booming volume of their noise caused even the entire city to shake. I was forced to use defensive magic to protect my ears. Even after it finished howling, my ears were still aching. —Trihexa had revived.

Does this count as resistance to sound manipulation for Azazel if he can protect his ears with magic? Currently working on adding him to the sandbox.

Secondly, should he have Dragon Physiology with the Fafnir armor?

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Does this count as resistance to sound manipulation for Azazel if he can protect his ears with magic? Currently working on adding him to the sandbox.

I believe so.

Secondly, should he have Dragon Physiology with the Fafnir armor?

Yes, Scale Mail's gain similar traits to actual dragons like scails. (Issei's Scale Mail was unaffected by Holy Water, Vali's Scale Mail is affected by Dragon Slaying weapons, and the numerous statements of the armor's being stated to be made of "dragon energy".)

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Qliphoth Bacikal/Sandbox7

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Not really done yet, but can we check it out. I also noticed ability to exorcise ghosts isn’t on the angel physiology page? Virtually anyone can do it

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

And lol, I just realized that many characters don’t have Dimensional Travel even though it’s really basic for the setting.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Yeah, we can start as soon as we get the abilities updated.

Don’t think low tiers have speed feats aside from being vaguely superhuman or FTE.

The only lifting strength feats I remember are Sairaorg lifting Grendel and Shooting Star’s Rook throwing a small mountain, both of which are in the profiles already.

YESH!!!

True. Anything is worth something than unknown.

One I got is Koneko picking up the pews of the abandoned Kuoh church to throw at Freed.

Spoiler: Vol 1 Life 4

That guy spilled out the location of the hidden basement by pointing at the altar.

Does he even know that he has to stop us? Or did he spill it out because he's confident that he can kill us and it will solve the problem?

“Sacred Gear!”

Synchronized with my shout, a red gauntlet appears on my left arm.

Equipping the Sacred Gear, completed! Okay!

Kiba draw his sword from the sheath and Koneko-chan—

Huh! I’m so shocked that my eyes are about to pop out.

GOGOGO……

Koneko-chan is lifting up the pews that are several times bigger than her.

“……Get smashed.”

Koneko-chan throws the pews at the Priest! Super Girl that is totally an unexpected method of attack!

As for how heavy those are, I got differing results from them. They can vary in terms of size and material, with the lightest one being 98 lbs and the heaviest being 350 lbs. That's anywhere from Above Human to Peak Human, and this was done by someone of Koneko's stature and power as a Low-Class Devil Rook too.

Not really much, but like with the speed for maybe average low-classes, it's something.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

YESH!!!

True. Anything is worth something than unknown.

One I got is Koneko picking up the pews of the abandoned Kuoh church to throw at Freed.

Spoiler: Vol 1 Life 4

That guy spilled out the location of the hidden basement by pointing at the altar.

Does he even know that he has to stop us? Or did he spill it out because he's confident that he can kill us and it will solve the problem?

“Sacred Gear!”

Synchronized with my shout, a red gauntlet appears on my left arm.

Equipping the Sacred Gear, completed! Okay!

Kiba draw his sword from the sheath and Koneko-chan—

Huh! I’m so shocked that my eyes are about to pop out.

GOGOGO……

Koneko-chan is lifting up the pews that are several times bigger than her.

“……Get smashed.”

Koneko-chan throws the pews at the Priest! Super Girl that is totally an unexpected method of attack!

As for how heavy those are, I got differing results from them. They can vary in terms of size and material, with the lightest one being 98 lbs and the heaviest being 350 lbs. That's anywhere from Above Human to Peak Human, and this was done by someone of Koneko's stature and power as a Low-Class Devil Rook too.

Not really much, but like with the speed for maybe average low-classes, it's something.

Also Koneko uprooting and swinging a large tree from DX. 6.

Creak, creak...I heard something violently squeaking from behind me.

Looking back, Koneko-chan, who pulled out a whole tree, was releasing an aura of anger with a wrathful expression.

“...Small breasts are a sin...? ...Small breasts are cruel...? I won't forgive you! I'll crush you!”

Buunnn!

Swinging the whole tree, Koneko-chan sent the Chimera's tentacles flying sideways! Scary! Koneko-sama became enraged by the Stray Devil's words!

Later in the volume. She throws it.

“...Never mind that, out of the way. That Chimera is my enemy!”

Koneko-chan was trying to throw the big tree towards here!

She had an expression filled with intensity and intimidation!

Scary! But I won't back down!

 

[TotalMasterInfinity]

About the 7-color flame and Ddraig's flames, it is said that Riser, Ruval, Fenix and Benu were trying to replicate Ddraig's flames

For that they did a lot of research and study, I suppose said research and study involved studying the power, composition and properties of Ddraig's flames

After that they tried to replicate it using a combination of 3 elements:
-Hellfire from Riser and Ruval (Fire Manipulation + Unholy Manipulation)
-Sacred Fire from Fenix (Fire Manipulation + Holy Manipulation)
-Divine Aura from Benu (Holy Manipulation?)

By joining these 3 elements they created a 7-color flame

As noted, the 7-color flame was developed using Ddraig's flames as a base

They used it against Typhoon and Vidar Raganork Aesir Berserker and despite the difference in power, both suffered significant damage that has not healed.

Issei questioned Riser about whether they used it without knowing the effects, as if he knew what Ddriag's flames would do to Typhoon and Vidar Raganork Aesir Berserker if he used them on them and their effects.

Riser responded by saying that they did not investigate enough to know the effects besides the damage they would cause, that is, they were aware that the flames would harm Typhoon and Vidar Raganork Aesir Berserker despite the difference in power but not that the wounds would not heal.

Upon learning that not even a god can heal from the damage inflicted by those 7-colored flames, Issei wonders if the 7-colored flame is any different than Ddraig's flames and then wonders if Typhoon hasn't healed from his wounds either.

Rossweisse then ends by saying that the technique that mimicked Ddraig's flames inflicts incurable burns on the opponent, which not even gods could heal.

Ddraig's flames, Blazing Inferno of Scorching Flames, are described as Ddraig Goch's ultimate finishing move.

The ultimate flames that can incinerate anything. Once ignited, they will never go out. Even gods will be burned to ashes within these flames.

Only beings beyond the God Class would not instantly disintegrate the moment they were touched by the flames, but only a being with the regenerative capabilities of Trihexa could stand. Only Albion, Ophis, and Great Red are immune to Ddraig's flames

So far only Sirzechs True Form's Power of Destruction has been shown to be able to extinguish Ddraig's flames.

From this we can take several things

-Blazing Inferno of Scorching Flames is Ddraig's most powerful attack, that puts it above Welsh Dragon Flare, an attack of Ddraig's that matches Infinity Blaster
-The flames cannot be extinguished by anything other than Existence Erasure of Sirzechs True Form's level
-If a being of God Class or lower were hit by these flames they would automatically disintegrate
-If a being beyond God Class were hit by these flames they would not automatically disintegrate but unless they have Regeneration (Low-Godly) they would not be able to stand.
-a fire created using Ddriag's flames as a base that its creators were aware of the damage it would cause allowed them to harm 2 beings that were far above them in terms of power
-it is mentioned on several occasions that not even a god can heal from the wounds of the 7-colored flame, this tells us 2 things, the gods can heal from burns on their own and if there were a flame that creates wounds that cannot be healed then the gods should be an exception
-the 7-colored flame is an imitation of Blazing Inferno of Scorching Flames and is probably a different fire but there is no guarantee that it will be

about that I would say the following

the gods should have Regeneration (Mid-Low) and Resistance to Immortality Negation (Typo 3) and Regeneration Negation (Mid-Low)

Blazing Inferno of Scorching Flames would have Fire Manipulation, Unholy Manipulation, Holy Manipulation, Durability Negation, Probably Immortality Negation(Type 3)(2 Layers) and Probably Regeneration Negation(Mid-Low)(2 Layers)

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Also Koneko uprooting and swinging a large tree from DX. 6.

Later in the volume. She throws it.

Class 10 Lifting Strength feat right there.

Although with that being from DX series, that's very much into the series beyond just the first volume.

Still, up to Peak Human for Low Class is alright and I'm guessing this being DX 6 means this should be Mid-Class Devil Koneko?

Like with Issei and the others, she also had training and then later went on to properly learn & utilize senjutsu which I'm sure probably helps to augment her physical stats meaning she's gotten that much stronger since the first volume.

Still, not bad.

 

[TotalMasterInfinity]

About Speed feats for the Low Class, I remember the anime has a scene of Yuuto dodging a bullet at close range, that should be worth something

About Lifting Strength, we have Koneko lifting Viser, Viser is described as a centaur-like being, with the upper part of a woman and the lower part of a beast as seen here

The lower part looks like a feline animal, I'll assume a lion, Viser's height is over 5 m, assuming that it is his height from his legs to his head I will subtract one meter to have the height of his lower part giving a height of 4 meters

A female lion has an average height of 1 m and a weight of 130 Kg

Through the square cube law we can know that the mass of a 4 meter female lion would be equal to the mass of a normal female lion multiplied by the cube of the division of the heights

130 Kg * ((4 m / 1 m)^3) = 8320 Kg (Class 10)

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Class 10 Lifting Strength feat right there.

Although with that being from DX series, that's very much into the series beyond just the first volume.

Still, up to Peak Human for Low Class is alright and I'm guessing this being DX 6 means this should be Mid-Class Devil Koneko?

It takes place after Volume 2 but before Volume 3.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

It takes place after Volume 2 but before Volume 3.

Is there any statement about that? HInts even? It's hard to tell when sometimes they say "on a certain day" which can mean anything.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

About Speed feats for the Low Class, I remember the anime has a scene of Yuuto dodging a bullet at close range, that should be worth something

About Lifting Strength, we have Koneko lifting Viser, Viser is described as a centaur-like being, with the upper part of a woman and the lower part of a beast as seen here

The lower part looks like a feline animal, I'll assume a lion, Viser's height is over 5 m, assuming that it is his height from his legs to his head I will subtract one meter to have the height of his lower part giving a height of 4 meters

A female lion has an average height of 1 m and a weight of 130 Kg

Through the square cube law we can know that the mass of a 4 meter female lion would be equal to the mass of a normal female lion multiplied by the cube of the division of the heights

130 Kg * ((4 m / 1 m)^3) = 8320 Kg (Class 10)

Nice, but needs to be evaluated by the calc team. This reminds me about your Infinity Blaster calc which needs to be evaluated as well.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Is there any statement about that? HInts even? It's hard to tell when sometimes they say "on a certain day" which can mean anything.

The other story that takes place directly after is the "Prelude to Excalibur", Issei and Kiba don't use BxB, Xenovia isn't with the ORC, and it is the first OVA of the series that takes place after the Riser fight in the anime being listed as episode 13 of Season 1. (And was written by Ishibumi back then.)

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

The other story that takes place directly after is the "Prelude to Excalibur", Issei and Kiba don't use BxB, Xenovia isn't with the ORC, and it is the first OVA of the series that takes place after the Riser fight in the anime being listed as episode 13 of Season 1. (And was written by Ishibumi back then.)

Ahhhhh.

Right, right.

In that case, we got something for Low Class Devils like Koneko then. So everyone around her class and up will be Class 10 to at least Class 10.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Qliphoth Bacikal/Sandbox7

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Not really done yet, but can we check it out. I also noticed ability to exorcise ghosts isn’t on the angel physiology page? Virtually anyone can do it

OUGH (right, forgot about that).

And lol, I just realized that many characters don’t have Dimensional Travel even though it’s really basic for the setting.

This too.

Quite many of them got differing means of it. The Devils and Angels with their magic crests, Arthur using Caliburn to make some barrier around him and others according to DxD BoRN (likely also happened in the LN too), and so on.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

About a third of the sandbox is completed, still have to do a lot of explanations for the rest of the Sacred Gears and add sources but it's looking pretty good so far, I'll continue tomorrow after the BIoSF matter is settled. Please tell me anything that you think I should add.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

^Yeah, you can keep it up although I’m not sure you have to explain all Sacred Gears? Just use the Devil Fruits page as a reference.

As far as the abilities go, other things we need to decide on:

• Blazing Inferno scaling to the seven colored flame or not
• The wording to use for general resistance to Spatial Manipulation for the characters if we’re going with that.
• Dimensional Gap resistance (death manipulation or void manipulation)
• Time Manipulation for Maou since they adjusted the time flow of the Underworld (dunno how)

I think that’s all?

 

[MasqueTLDF]

^Yeah, you can keep it up although I’m not sure you have to explain all Sacred Gears? Just use the Devil Fruits page as a reference.

We can use it as reference for other characters profiles like Liban or Jeanne, I think detail makes perfection. (I'll need to reformat but we'll be able to link directly to each individual Sacred Gear to avoid clutter on character profiles)

As far as the abilities go, other things we need to decide on:

• Blazing Inferno scaling to the seven colored flame or not

I believe it should, TMI's evidence was pretty solid imo.

• The wording to use for general resistance to Spatial Manipulation for the characters if we’re going with that.

Minor Spatial Manipulation seems fine

• Dimensional Gap resistance (death manipulation or void manipulation)

Void manip probably as the void is what causes death, or maybe both?

• Time Manipulation for Maou since they adjusted the time flow of the Underworld (dunno how)

Time Manipulation (Possesses the ability to slow/speed up time) seems alright.

I think that’s all?

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

As far as the abilities go, other things we need to decide on:

• Blazing Inferno scaling to the seven colored flame or not
• The wording to use for general resistance to Spatial Manipulation for the characters if we’re going with that.
• Dimensional Gap resistance (death manipulation or void manipulation)
• Time Manipulation for Maou since they adjusted the time flow of the Underworld (dunno how)

I think that’s all?

Scaling Blazing Inferno should be fine if it was done based on Ddraig's flames.

We can work with something out on that one. I think the main ones we could try using for that is Issei vs Sairaog and Xenovia vs Strada since those are the most blatant ones where two comparable/equal ish combatants were wrecking shit up to the point of affecting space around them.

DG Resistance: I kinda figure it was something existence erasure related since it's a "void" or a place filled with "nothing" that kills you if you don't have protection or aren't so OP you aren't bothered at all. Then again, does it state their bodies get erased? Otherwise, death manip or inducement works just as well.

Probably MUH DEMONIC POWAH owo. No other way of doing it owo

 

[TotalMasterInfinity]

leaving aside what does not affect the future

• Blazing Inferno scaling to the seven colored flame or not
• The wording to use for general resistance to Spatial Manipulation for the characters if we’re going with that.

I already gave my answer for this and proposed leaving Immortality Negation and Regeneration Negation as probably, the spatial resistance would be lower since they only manipulate space in a limitied way

Dimensional Gap resistance (death manipulation or void manipulation)

death manipulation via void manipulation, It also mentions Existence Erasure for those who can remain for a long time in Dimensional Gap

 

[TotalMasterInfinity]

I feel a little bad for bringing up more topics when we already have so much, but I think it's necessary

Dragon God Vs Trihexa

First, because Trihexa has Regeneration(Low-Godly), it shouldn't be Regeneration(Mid-Godly), since one of his Split Bodies was able to regenerate from complete destruction thanks to Sirzechs True Form's Power of Destruction

Second, we are told that Ophis and Great Red are the only ones who can destroy Trihexa, the question I ask myself is, how?
Trihexa is a monster with levels of regeneration that would embarrass Majin Buu, the faction leaders had to design a cage to lock him up and then enter the cage to fight him and even then they estimate that it will take them thousands of years to finish him off, indicating that similar to the Phoenix, his regeneration consumes something of him that if it runs out he will no longer be able to regenerate and will die.
So with the dragon gods there are several options:

1) they can kill Trihexa the same way the faction leaders are trying right now, i.e. by having a prolonged fight until Trihexa is exhausted, in which case, both of them must have higher Stamina levels than Trihexa and ways to deal with the damage they would suffer in such a battle.

2) they have a way to ignore Trihexa's regeneration, in other words they can negate it, which would give both of them Immortality Negation(Type 3) and Regeneration Negation(Low-Godly or Mid-Godly)

True Longinus Vs Gods

Cao Cao takes out his spear slowly, Ophis' stomach had a hole but there were no traces of blood. The hole disappeared as if nothing happened.

…..So she didn't take any damage? Even with the light of that holy-spear…..? Cao Cao then said it with an astonished face.

"An instant kill attack if it was a devil. I even put a lot of power in it so even other beings would vaporise... It would have taken half of the power of one of the Gods who are weak against this spear." -Volume 11, Life 3, part 2.

We have a claim that the Spear has a God-Slayer attribute, more specifically a way to reduce the power of the Gods.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

There also exists something called the Rule of Annihilation which erases character counterparts from different series if they meet each other. (If two Thors meet from different series, they are both erased basically.)

@MasqueTLDF

Bruh that is legit Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap owo Only this sounds like its somewhat better cuz it's not limited to the native multiverse but of other universes/series.

Still, it's very...DIRTY. DEEDS. DONE. DIRT. CHEAP owo

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

death manipulation via void manipulation, It also mentions Existence Erasure for those who can remain for a long time in Dimensional Gap

Ok, Death manipulation is already in the profiles, so we should remember to include EE when updating the pages.

Who would EE apply to, aside from the Dragon Gods and Trihexa? At least Issei since he’s a mini Dragon God.

So I am not sure how to word the Blazing Inferno stuff, so someone could update the following in the sandbox: Issei, Ddraig and the resistance would apply to Ophis, Great Red and Trihexa.

It should be noted that time manipulation for the Maou is not combat applicable in the profiles.

Believe we’re almost good to go.