(Staff Needed) DxD Cast Stat Revision 1

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Sorry but could you please @DarkDragonMedeus, I'd rather not have this thread devolve anymore and it's gone on for a pretty long time already.

I do not like to spam mentions. I am of the belief that if they are genuinely interested they will come after being pinged once, and once they do, they will comeback when they feel to contribute.

Nevertheless, I will call him once more: @DarkDragonMedeus

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Since most of the scaling can trace back to Issei who's values are accepted, I'll use him as reference.

Spoiler: Rias

1: Scales to V2 12 Boosts Issei.
2. accepted multiplier
3. Scales to a V9 BxB Issei with a 16x multiplier.
4. same multiplier as before
5. Value of 8. divided by 2^18 (accepted multiplier)
6. same reason as 2 and 4
7. Scales to V14 SIB 14 Boosts Issei
8. Scales to SIB V20 Issei
9. Same as 2/4/6 + Boost (x2)
10. 2^18x (Accepted Scale Mail Multiplier) to 7.
11. Scales to PDxD Issei

Spoiler: Sairaorg

1. Scales to 14 Boosts V9 WDR Issei
2. Can Split the Earth in half. (References for common feats calc)
3. Scales to V14 SIB 14 Boosts Issei
4. Scales to PDxD Issei

Spoiler: Saji

1. Scales to Base V2 Issei.
2. Scales to Base V5 Issei.
3. Scales to V14 SIB 14 Boosts Issei
4. Same reasoning as 3.

Spoiler: Kokabiel

1. 8x an V3 Rias amped with her RP form and 19 Boosts.

Spoiler: Azazel

1. Scales to V14 SIB 14 Boosts Issei
2. Defeated an opponent who previously dominated his base.
3. Scales to V19 SIB Issei amped with 14 Boosts + the accepted Scale Mail multiplier of 2^18x. Scales to a creation feat involving a Sun, Planet and multiple moons.

Spoiler: Grendel

1. Scales to V14 SIB 14 Boosts Issei

Spoiler: Ddraig

1. Scales to V19 SIB Issei amped with 14 Boosts
2. Can double power
3. Scales to half of "V19 SIB Issei amped with 14 Boosts + the accepted Scale Mail multiplier of 2^18x" Scales to a creation feat involving a Sun, Planet and multiple moons.

Spoiler: Albion

1. Scales to V19 SIB Issei amped with 14 Boosts
2. Scales to half of "V19 SIB Issei amped with 14 Boosts + the accepted Scale Mail multiplier of 2^18x" Scales to a creation feat involving a Sun, Planet and multiple moons.

Spoiler: Ophis

1. Scales to V19 SIB Issei amped with 14 Boosts x4

Sorry for the length (and for the wait as well, was busy all day) but this is about as TLDR as I can get.

Looks good to me.

 

[BlackeJan]

Rias has been shown to defeat Ult Class Devils before

Ok but I’m taking about Base Rias. It’s great that she can defeat those types of class but where are the statements or such that she did it in Base? and I’m not disagreeing on Sairoag stats, it’s just that just cause they are in a class doesn’t mean they have the same power as we already said that Base Rias gets demolished by Base Sairaog.

Where is the statement of Base Sairoag having High 6A to Low 5B statement? I can understand maybe with his BB and above but never heard anything in base.

I didn’t have issues much with the Boosts but it seems yall are hell bent on not using the “Possibly” or “Higher” especially when some of the attacks that gotten from that were from the boosts itself unless I misread it correctly how they are jumping magnitude of tiers

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Ok but I’m taking about Base Rias. It’s great that she can defeat those types of class but where are the statements or such that she did it in Base? and I’m not disagreeing on Sairoag stats, it’s just that just cause they are in a class doesn’t mean they have the same power as we already said that Base Rias gets demolished by Base Sairaog.

Base Rias gets demolished by Sairaorg pre V16, not the case afterward obviously lol. And we literally see her take out an Ult Class Devil in Base. + Class scaling is only a minimum, not a cap. All High Class Devils have at least High Class Strength but they could have higher class strength due to various factors unrelated to strength holding them back, so on and so forth. Ex: Issei was Low Class with Ultimate Class Strength but as a devil, his strength was never below Low Class since Low Class is a minimum. Defeating Ult Class + Being Ult Class + Multplier Downscaling placing her comparable to Ult Class is more than enough evidence. (Especially since this reasoning is already accepted on her profile, and has been for awhile.)

Just as the announcer had said, the player who had been struck by Lint Selzan’s purple flames immediately disappeared into the light of retirement. …That girl also has the power of a Longinus. Gasper, Valerie, Lint Selzan…. Rias had already added three powerful Longinus wielders into her own team. Naturally, the activity of the new Rias team extended beyond just that. Rias’ Power of Destruction completely overwhelmed the opposing [King] (ultimate-class Devil). The opposing [King] had already been wounded by Crom Cruach’s initial blow, and wasn’t an a challenge for Rias at all. Beside her, a Fallen Angel-mode Akeno-san released an enormous lightning dragon to take down the opposing [Queen]. Kiba had also defeated the opposing [Knight] in the blink of an eye while Koneko-chan used Kasha in her Shirone-mode to incinerate the opposing [Bishop].

Where is the statement of Base Sairoag having High 6A to Low 5B statement? I can understand maybe with his BB and above but never heard anything in base.

Reread what I said, BxB Issei in V5 had a High 6-A feat, BxB Sairaorg had a Low 5-B statement. Base Sairaorg via the Boost Multipliers + AP Feats is somewhere in the middle, and the Boost ability lets us quantify that. Anyway, this thread isn't about Sairaorg.

I didn’t have issues much with the Boosts but it seems yall are hell bent on not using the “Possibly” or “Higher” especially when some of the attacks that gotten from that were from the boosts itself unless I misread it correctly how they are jumping magnitude of tiers

And this thread isn't about Boosts either, its usage was already extensively covered over multiple CRTs and there's no reason to hash out old arguments when nothing new is being brought to the table. And Possibly/Higher are used as needed, as in, only when the increase is unquantifiable or isn't a tier jump.
Anyway, please don't derail my thread any further.

I do not like to spam mentions. I am of the belief that if they are genuinely interested they will come after being pinged once, and once they do, they will comeback when they feel to contribute.

Nevertheless, I will call him once more: @DarkDragonMedeus

Thank you, can you please close this thread. It already has 2 staff agrees and grace ended.

 

[BlackeJan]

Rias’ Power of Destruction completely overwhelmed the opposing [King] (ultimate-class Devil). The opposing [King] had already been wounded by Crom Cruach’s initial blow, and wasn’t an a challenge for Rias at all.

Ok but like now with what I just read, she was able to beat an Ult class here so let because the king was already injured meaning weaken. Even if that was the case, how do we even know how strong this King is to begin with? Sairaog is the benchmark (as you can say) for anyone with Ultimate Class power and is the strongest out of all the Kings (for the new generation) so there would be no way for a random I am to assume to be as strong as Sairaog