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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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Carmille also has this yet others don’t:
- Limited Power Nullification and Non-Physical Interaction (Angelic weapons can nullify demon's powers when bound by it. Striker nullified and disabledStolas's powers. Grabbed onto Stolas while he was a shadow)
Wasn’t it kinda retconned by the fact that Sir Pentious’ redemption allowed him to get to Heaven meaning that his soul isn’t really destroyed?
Remember that Vivzie’s statements can be contradicted. She once said that Alastor’s cane will be intangible for anybody but Alastor, yet Charlie holds it and Adam breaks it just fine.
Low-Godly makes sense, I don’t know why it would be Type 8 though since it’s pretty much Type 7? They can’t die because they are already and are supposed to “suffer” and stuff.
Why?
We actually do need a CRT. It is nothing minor at all.
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I mean we are talking about Divine Judgement saving Sir Pentious, thats too much of a special case to be used as an antifeat. We dont even know how it happened, maybe Sir Pentious was saved last second? Maybe his soul was erased then reformed? Who knows! Hell the finale even implies he is a Seraphim now so I dont think its a good idea to use that until S2.
I'd guess Alastor allowed it.
Angels can nullify Demonic powers.
Voldemort
Tom Marvolo Riddle, better known as Voldemort, You-Know-Who, or He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, is the leader of the Death Eaters and considered by many to be the greatest Dark Wizard of all time. Born through a Love Potion and descended from Salazar Slytherin, Voldemort used his immense power and...
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I didnt say it was minor, I said it already went through a CRT. You dont need another CRT to scale characters.
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Except that Sir Pentious got reedemed and he is the only one who apparently got redemption at this point, any other sinner is death with the soul destroyed.
So it can be a special thing for redemption
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Yeah Angelic weapons really should just be dura neg, Immortality neg, and regen neg. Not even Soul Manipulation and all that.
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Yeah, the older Vivzie's WoG is the more shade I'd throw on it actually being accurate, especially if nothing else supports it
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This is why Death of the Author exists after all.
ShionAH
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Technically the eyes support it and Sera "kinda" implies it I guess
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Speak plain mate
ShionAH
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I assume you mean elaborate
Vivzie says when their soul is like erased their dark energy goes around Hell and creates those eyes, which do exist in the show
Alastor supports the idea of souls existing and being important to Sinners since he threatened to rip Husk's soul apart
Sera implied that if Sinners rise against them and somehow make war their "souls" will be in danger
I can probably find a few more but it seems to me like the soul thing is canon
Vivzie says when their soul is like erased their dark energy goes around Hell and creates those eyes, which do exist in the show
Alastor supports the idea of souls existing and being important to Sinners since he threatened to rip Husk's soul apart
Sera implied that if Sinners rise against them and somehow make war their "souls" will be in danger
I can probably find a few more but it seems to me like the soul thing is canon
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Tbh. It does make sense for Redemption just being a special case.
I mean. Still does not support Vivzie’s statement.
It doesn’t work that way
Okay thenVoldemort
Tom Marvolo Riddle, better known as Voldemort, You-Know-Who, or He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, is the leader of the Death Eaters and considered by many to be the greatest Dark Wizard of all time. Born through a Love Potion and descended from Salazar Slytherin, Voldemort used his immense power and...
What was the CRT then?
Actually this does make sense. Why would Sinners be afraid of their “owners” if they can just regenerate and stuff? I think the core is in owning the soul, tearing up apart of which will make bye-bye Regeneration.
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Shouldn’t Alastor get Resistance to Powernull as he could still use his WooDoo powers even after Adam striked him with Angelic Weapons?
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Yeah so it’s pretty cut and clear Resistance to Powernull for me. Not sure if I need a CRT for it (Adam got his Resistance to Regeneration Negation without CRT iirc)
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I am not sure, angelic weapons nullify when they are on the target. Adam also clearly nullified all his magic with his lights
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His radio effects of voice were still heard right when Adam striked him (that "AAAAAAA"), his shadow was still sentient and he ran away using his powers in less than 10 seconds after being hit. Stolas, on the other hand, couldn’t.
That was due to his cane being broken. The attack was landed on it, not Alastor himself.
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yea cause stolas was wrapped in angelic rope.
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Stolas was under the affects THE ENTIRE TIME, while Al simply got hit once his attacks nullified, and THEN used his powers
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Oh ok. Misunderstood how Angelic Weapons powernull works then
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Im betting Hazbin will reach Tier 2 by the end.
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Also i kinda wished Hazbin's power system is explained better and in-show instead of livestreams from like 4 years ago atm. I don't see a consistent interpretation on how death or angelic stuff works.
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Also, the audio is from Umbrella Academy
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I met Erica lindbeck, voice of loona, at otakon a month ago.
Got her autograph and we took a photo together too
She’s a very nice person
Got her autograph and we took a photo together too
She’s a very nice person
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Go
Good for you
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Just rewatched HH and noticed the implications by Charlie that Lucifer thinks of her as “failure” in the Pilot, although it wasn’t anything like that in the show. Guess that was retconned huh.
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From the looks of it Lucifer was suppose to be some sort of antagonist too.
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nah we see in the original drafts he's just as cheery
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Hazbin Hotel: The Reckoning of Immortality type 5
Hazbin is an entertaining verse, not very many things are complex enough to matter, but... a contention has always been Immortality type 5 for me. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Demon_Physiology_(Hazbin_Hotel)#Sinners So I'm gonna rough it up. To start with, Type 5 just... doesn't have...
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Yeah I feel like Types 1, 2, 3, and 8 were valid. I never saw how Type 5 was valid ever.Hazbin Hotel: The Reckoning of Immortality type 5
Hazbin is an entertaining verse, not very many things are complex enough to matter, but... a contention has always been Immortality type 5 for me. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Demon_Physiology_(Hazbin_Hotel)#Sinners So I'm gonna rough it up. To start with, Type 5 just... doesn't have...vsbattles.com
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Speaking of demonic physiology, there's something I wanted to mention here.Hazbin Hotel: The Reckoning of Immortality type 5
Hazbin is an entertaining verse, not very many things are complex enough to matter, but... a contention has always been Immortality type 5 for me. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Demon_Physiology_(Hazbin_Hotel)#Sinners So I'm gonna rough it up. To start with, Type 5 just... doesn't have...
You knew this was coming eventually
I think we should remove "fallen angel" from demonic physiology.
"Falling" doesn't give you any new physiology.
Vaggie is a fallen angel and she has not demonstrated any demonic properties (as far as I remember)
And the Cherubim were thrown out of heaven (which I would consider falling) and they didn't show anything either.
Charlie doesn't count because she's a hybrid, and while Lucifer, well, just one character doesn't justify the existence of a section on the page. Furthermore, we do not have any information about what his "falling" process was like and how he received (or if he already had) these more demonic powers that other fallen angels did not demonstrate.
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I agree things like Invulnerability, Immortality Type 5, and Fallen Angel page should be removed until further notice. The show right is far too inconsistent to explain away things like Lute getting pressed by rubbble, or the Angels getting blood drawn out of them by Alastor's demonic shield. So maybe there's information we are left out or something idk.
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Angels are not actually harmed from it, and even if they are that’s due to Newton’s third law. And Alastor’s powers being demonic in nature is doubtful ngl
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Yeah its weird lol
We have to assume its demonic... for now...
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Something something, another type of entity
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I pray we get to know the whole fuckery around Alastor in Season 2 tbh
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Yeah, I also hope his inconsistency is explained, cause that's really one of my big gripes with him, he's probably the weakest Pilot-to-show character IMO
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