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1: that Charlie has only ever been in Sinner City
What are other cities? Also both in comics and in the show she is in Pentagram City.
2: that she wasn't using flowery language or being hyperbolic
Since it’s consistent, it’s fine.
A snowy area on the Pride Ring. We can assume Stolas' mansion overviews IMP City through context clues so I'm not counting his.
Isn’t a mansion just one building?
Should tell you that the billion statement is hyperbolic or flowery considering we see the size of the city and its not even the size of a decent town! I'm fine with using a dense city from IRL because that would make the overpopulation problem relevant without trying to argue that you're stuffing a billion people in a small town and claiming that the streets don't look like a stuffed protest 24/7.
I think I made it clear that even CGM agreed that small town size is absurd, so he accepted the population number ends.
That have been getting offed for population control for damn near just as long.
Millions of souls was stated for just as long. Also it is implied that Exterminations started just 7 years ago.
It's mostly both Sera not wanting to risk an uprising and there being an excuse to blow out of proportion
I don’t see how this answers why Charlie believes in it, as she could have used that as an argument to stop Exterminations. Also, where does it say she is exactly wrong?
How is Vox getting angry and causing a blackout equal to him 'absorbing everything'

he's linked to the entire area's electricity i see, but theres no solid proof of him absorbing it all, its likely he just got mad and severed his connection in the process.#
What Reaper said.
Also Adam literally said 'You think you're tough shit?', not actually thinking he's tough. It was obvious sarcasm, as we see Adam casually destroy Alastor when he got slightly serious lmao.
Are all Adam wankers made in the same factory? Already addressed in the thread, read or leave.
Plus if we look at the leaks...Alastor aint all that.
And where the leaks ******* say that? Yeah, he is woman’s slave and Alastor is about to become the worst written version of himself in the upcoming season (if they don’t change the plot), but powerwise he is still as powerful (in Season 1/Pilot), just with side help.
Charlie doesnt know her own power either
Enough for her to be sure she can match Adam.
but even if she thinks Alastor is the best option, its likely due to her lack of combat experience since she chooses not to fight
So she sends her close friend to death just because she sucks at fighting despite later being confident she can fight Adam. Great logic, Alastor downplayers! Appreciated.
 
We see him having some electricity, but thats not enough to say the blackout was cause he absorbed the entirety
Thats not how blackouts, or electric circuitry for that matter works.

Vox is obv wired to everything, but it doesnt require him absorbing ALL that electricity for him to cause a blackout
The areas were getting turned off one by one the same amount of time as Vox was gltiching. Regular blackout would just turn everything off in the same moment, this case is only possible in absorption.
 
What are other cities? Also both in comics and in the show she is in Pentagram City.
Pride Ring is the entire surface of hell, so yeah, not everyone has to be in that one city
Since it’s consistent, it’s fine.
no, it really isn't. Its a one-off statement that could be implying the entire sinner population of the Pride Ring and not just one city... or you know, a billion people spread across the surface of a planet and not all stuffed in what we see as a town-sized city!
Isn’t a mansion just one building?
It's also in an area of the Pride Ring we haven't seen yet outside of that, and the only other mansion from a Goetia we see overlooks a major city.
I think I made it clear that even CGM agreed that small town size is absurd, so he accepted the population number ends.
However that small town size is what is shown, unless we are so desperate for big number that we're going to be arguing with what is shown in the source material?
Millions of souls was stated for just as long
Which is a lot more reasonable to stuff into a single city than a billion, when we see the city's size.
Also it is implied that Exterminations started just 7 years ago.
When?
I don’t see how this answers why Charlie believes in it, as she could have used that as an argument to stop Exterminations.
because there is a problem, it's just being overblown to justify the real reason for the Exterminations, AKA Sera not wanting to risk an uprising.
Also, where does it say she is exactly wrong?
Show me the stuffed streets orange, since you're so dead set on arguing they're all in a single city that we see the size of, show me the streets.
 
woman’s slave and Alastor is about to become the worst written version of himself in the upcoming season (if they don’t change the plot), but powerwise he is still as powerful (in Season 1/Pilot), just with side help.
Can you explain?
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Alastor and close friend is crazy. She cant get a read on him.
Hes strong in Overlord terms, but Charlie is still far stronger than he is, just extremely lacking in experience and power, and that also equates to her judgement. She still might have lost to Adam without Lucifer

Anyway disagreeing with the upgrades
 
Pride Ring is the entire surface of hell, so yeah, not everyone has to be in that one city
Could ya show other cities already?
no, it really isn't. Its a one-off statement that could be implying the entire sinner population of the Pride Ring and not just one city... or you know, a billion people spread across the surface of a planet and not all stuffed in what we see
Provide any other known city where we see Sinners, since as I checked the shown ones there are all Hellborns.
a town-sized city!
Pentagram City is less than a kilometer… makes sense!
It's also in an area of the Pride Ring we haven't seen yet outside of that, and the only other mansion from a Goetia we see overlooks a major city.
So, no proof that there are Sinners there, only Hellborns.
However that small town size is what is shown, unless we are so desperate for big number that we're going to be arguing with what is shown in the source material?
So, if they give you a map of a continent which makes it smaller than Hawaii, you are gonna take that and not use common sense? I understand controversy — I do not, however, going against logic.
Which is a lot more reasonable to stuff into a single city than a billion, when we see the city's size.
Less than a kilometer wide major city makes far less sense for a place where worst of humanity has been stacked for years.
There was a poster that hinted that Lilith was doing a rebel against Heaven and since she powered demons and was in charge of Hell, and she disappeared 7 years ago and due to that, Heaven was afraid against rebellions. Sera said “they were preparing a rebellion”.
Also consistent with the fact that nobody got to know about Exterminations despite Adam giving it away to the public the first worst moment he got. 7 years male more sense than billions.
because there is a problem, it's just being overblown to justify the real reason for the Exterminations, AKA Sera not wanting to risk an uprising.
Charlie knows it though. She says it in literally the first episode.
Show me the stuffed streets orange, since you're so dead set on arguing they're all in a single city that we see the size of, show me the streets.
We don’t really see Pentagram City streets much, only in comic we see a good picture. Also, again, it can be that the city is large.
Alastor and close friend is crazy.
“Is crazy” is not a proper counterargument against my arguments. Like at all.
Anyway disagreeing with the upgrades
So only on them, and on everything else you don’t give a shit. Although couldn’t expect less.
 
I love how 90% of Orange's arguments against Sinners being spread out are "W-well, this doesn't count!" When there's not a single statement that they're all in Pentagram City, and we see Sinners outside of it.

Frankly, just the fact that everyone who disagrees is an Alastor downplayer and an Adam wanker tells me everything I need to know. I'll come back when the bias clears up, until then, enjoy your two mid villains full of wasted potential.
 
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