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Indeed. And maybe the magnitude calcs can reach good numbers too.
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Gotta Revise 'Em All, Part 2: Getting to work
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Rhyhorn scales to about 1.451 megatons, aka, barely above baseline Low 7-B. You can’t even upscale to Low 7-B+ from that, let alone 7-B.
Unless it got recalced and I didn’t notice, Dugtrio’s calc is High 7-A+, not 6-C.
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For second stage 'mons, I believe we use Pupitar's feat, which I remember being calced at around solid 7-B.
Edit: Sorry, meant first stage.
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What of legendaries and mythicals?
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That's... Difficult (?)
Some have their own feats (like Shaymin who bridged into 6-C if I remember correctly), but others will probably just scale to fully evolve 'mons.
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It's not that hard. If they're indeed stronger than non legendaries, their feats will speak for themselves.
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Kyogre, reshiram, and regigigas all have high 6-A feats
Lugia has a high 6-B feat
Tornados and thunderous iirc have a 6-B feat
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Aside from their status as mythical and legendary (which doesn't necessarily correlate to power, might I add) some might not even scale.
Simply, a good number of legendaries are featless on their own. I disagree with heavy abuse of scaling, so it is difficult to me.
Then again, I'm probably in the minority on that, so you can disregard me ayy.
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Okay, if you can find that calc, then 7-B would be valid.
4.1 gigatons is High 7-A+.
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Yveltal and Xerneas I believe also have a High 6-A feat from the Ultimate Weapon.
Deoxys should retain 5-B for Delta Episode, which scales to Mega Ray.
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Ah, apologies then, high 7-A+
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Lugia's feat is onyl 6-B i think and Groudon's High 6-A is still valid
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Apologies, seems it was recalced to High 7-C.
They should simply be Low 7-B by upscaling from Rhyhorn.
Edit: Recalc Here
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well the more support feats we have, the better
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Theres still the 7-A calcs from Defog that they would upscale from
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Only if it gets accepted. Remember it was highly controversial last time we tried that.
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Bring it up again then now that the standards are changing, theres only a handful of pokemon that learn it naturally and it should logically scale to them as it's a non-damaging move that would be weaker than their offensive moves of the same type
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The thing is, I personally wouldn't support without more feats for consistency. Because keep in mind, that's the highest feat that non-fully evolved 'mons have access to. That's 2/3 of the verse scaling to a single move.
It needs more support imo.
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Worse. Right now is High 7-C.
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Interesting , let us see what the Japanese version says
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toppling a mountain is High 7-C but considering it is likely just destroying a mountain it is Low 7-B
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I guarantee magnitude will yield higher
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If we get at least 4 moves around the same ballpark, I would support 100%.
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What is Regigigas’ High 6-A feat?
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Hurricane, rain dance, earthquake, hail, sunny day
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looking for some random entries if they are worthy:
lanturn: The light it emits is so bright that it can illuminate the sea’s surface from a depth of over three miles.
wishiwashi: When it’s in a jam, its shining eyes attract others of its kind. The light from its eyes is visible almost 25 miles away.
espurr: It has enough psychic energy to blast everything within 300 feet of itself, but it has no control over its power.
whiscash: If WHISCASH goes on a wild rampage, it sets off a quake-like tremor with a radius of over three miles. This POKéMON has the ability to predict real earthquakes. (intimidates pokemon and people felt it too)
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Towing continents around
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Unfortunately, weather moves right now are considered environmental feats that don't scale to general AP. Arceus tried arguing in a thread they should scale, but DT rejected it.
Though Hurricane might be promising.
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Well how about “6-B, likely higher” for legendaries, all High 6-A feats are statements but still probably valid, while there’s a good pool of 6-B feats to fall back on too
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Not all of them scale to that. Weather Birds, for example, don't have their downscaling from Lugia anymore, as that's from the anime. Moltres has a 6-C feat, tho.
Again, many legendaries are simply featless.
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All three birds technically have feats on that level
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Yeah, most likely. I just remember mostly Moltres' ayy.
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oh, that's the reddit meme one, i thought it was another pokemon, OOPS
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