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All of that just shows Pokémon are species profiles. Nobody is debating that, we’re debating the fact our standards for splitting the way that has been proposed here do indeed apply to species profiles anyways, we have precedent for this such as Kryptonians, and arguments that Pokémon as a species and Kryptonians as a species have some kind of difference and shouldn’t be treated the same have been debunked thoroughly.Okay, so to summarize why I disagree with splitting the pokemon pages, it all has to so with most of our pages being species pages, not character pages. This may be a little long, but it's necessary to explain properly.
What do I mean by species page? Rather than indexing the capabilities of a specific character, a species page indexes everything that the entire given species is naturally capable of doing generally speaking, without including what specific characters of that species can do. They detail and cover a whole species instead of an explicit character. That's what the Pokemon pages, besides characters like humans or specific pokemon, do this for the most part. They cover the entirety of a whole given pokemon species and index it on the page.
For example, Pikachu. Our Pikachu page indexes the capabilities of the entire Pikachu species. So things that any wild Pikachu does, things that aren't outside of a pikachu's natural capabilities, would be put on the page. The big problem I have with this argument on splitting the pages, such as Pikachu's, is that species pages are not actual composite pages. Compositing a page means taking the capabilities of whole different characters and putting them together as one, like compositing Goku across different mediums, or Superman across different mediums, which is something we obviously ban and don't do here. But a species page is different from what this standard covers.
The purposes of a species page isn't to index one single version of that species, but all of them. So if we use Pikachu as an example, the Pikachu page isn't indexing one single Pikachu. It's indexing ALL Pikachu of their given species. Everything that every member of the wild species is capable of doing. That's why the species page gets everything because it covers all they could possibly perform, and in Pokemon, there is no variation or different depictions of a pokemon species across each of their mediums. This may look like a composite page, but it's not a real composite underneath, because different characters are not being pulled from different mediums and being put on the same page.
Pokemon that are considered their own characters, with their own unique abilities, don't get things from the species page. An example would be Ash Ketchums Pikachu. This Pikachu is a particular character. It's not just any random Pikachu, but one that has a specific array of abilities that a normal Pikachu can't achieve, hence why it has it's own separate page that doesn't get cross scaling to the Pikachu species page.
Pokemon isn't the only example either. Digimon is another series that does the same thing with their pages that "look" composited, but are not. Just like Pokemon, Digimon pages cover the entirety of what a specific Digimon species can do, and Digimon who are treated as their own characters get their own separate pages. Like the Agumon species being a separate page from three different Agumon that are considered three different characters.
This is something most of our Pokemon pages do, and because of that, splitting them into different mediums makes no sense and is something im strongly against doing.