Looked through the versus thread rules and yeah this match shouldn't have been made:
nope not one, just kaido thoughts on those that can beat him
no they fought
no he was not, the moment vista stopped him he was focused and pinned till he decided to surrender.
no statement debunked it. and feats says mihwak = vista
why do they include everything in their arsenal
And Whitebeard with Haki is above that
You are very much defending a friend you are using past experiences with him as your argument
There's a statement saying WB and Shanks are equal now.
If you talk about someone's power, it includes EVERYTHING they are capable of.
and Whitebeard was not nearly as capable of using all the tools in his arsenal as his past self
Yeah, because he's not capable of using them though, DURING marineford he couldn't because he was stabbed and had a heart attack, while impaled with Magma, he was sick. This doesn't disprove anything though.
You are using old whitebeard who was sick and lived with life support
This is due to health issues, which messed with his durability and other problems. When we talk about strength as a whole that STILL remains. Him living with life support, and being sick, does NOT all of a sudden mean his strength his gone, yet there's 2 statements of him retaining his strength. Remember, squard stabbed him, he had a heart attack and threw up, so once again, that is why he couldn't use his haki.
please bring it
except if the AP was greater mihawk would have stomped
the moment he gave up on the fight. and no he was no longer focused on luffy
but mihawk scaling wont be an outlier????????
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Sick means you are weaker
Let me bring it to you.
Do you have anyway to prove this works in the case of WB? This all varies on the people depending, but we know for WB it's not the case, since 2 statements literally prove that.
So Vistas Skill outclasses Mihawk by such a hilarious margin that he can clash with him then
He is on life support he takes a second to even stand up when getting out of it
Being on medication normally is harder to do things like that, yet at marineford BEFORE he gets stabbed, he's easily able to demolish people and send people like aokiji crashing into the ocean with a casual quake, you have no way to prove that his strength got weaker. Anyways we're derailing this thread.
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didn't say that was the case
Being weaker in a way that uses his whole body means his whole body is weaker
"remember to keep quiet"
so vista is a better swordman than mihawk?
yes so his AP is comparable to mihawk, unless u want to say he has higher AP than mihawk.
so he has the skill to suppress mihawk AP?
You pretty much did.
Clashing Someone with Skill /=/ ap, so you're confusing it again.
no there is a statement of him being a competitorScroll down, there's a statement of shanks = WBKingTempest16/One Piece Databook Revisions
nope I said he had way better skill which you stated he used skill to keep up with Mihawk. keeping up with someone stronger via skill is a skill based feat
He was always sick once it started stacking with other problems was when it got way worse
competitor implies strength, they wouldn't be competing if shanks was thousands of times weaker. If you have a problem with it, make a CRT debunking it.
It is a skill based feat, so if they both have the skills to do so, then they would both be able to clash without AP being implied.
Skill + Power trumps skill so it proves Vistas skill is better since he can overcome the powergap
being sick was shown to make him weaker
Statements not feats
debunk what exactly?
I'm talking about shanks and WB
Not neccesarily true, I told you they don't equate to in a battle sense, skill can match up for the AP difference, especially if they skill is relative, nobody HIT no one, so nothing proves what would've happened.
That's just how the scaling is. It's unfortunate but statements are just statements, because even I think WB and Roger >>>> mihawk narratively, but you cannot ignore statements.
not my argument, i said nothing in that said anything about shanks personal strength but rather him becoming a yonko.
It was shown at both times 1 feat>two statements especially when they are vague with words like competitor
Yonkos were stated to rival one another though. You can't be a thousand times weaker than someone and rival them.
the fact that mihawk cant hit vista says it all
okay so who said anything about anyone beeen a thousand times weeaker??
2 statements given by the author, and I told you being sick varies, you still have no way to prove that his STRENGTH was weak in the beginning of MF.
