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General DC Comics Discussion Thread

Vondoom said:
No problem.

Yeah but Current justification is like this:
Speed: Massively FTL+ (Faster than his Pre-Flashpoint self following his return from the Speed Force.[14] Swifter than Superman[15] and Barry Allen).

I'm proposing it to be like this:
Speed: Massively FTL+ up to Infinite (Faster than his Pre-Flashpoint self following his return from the Speed Force.[14] Swifter than Superman[15] and Barry Allen).

Since they could moving across the multiverse even beyond the orrery to purge the Darkness that affected the entire multiverse.
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Vondoom said:
Yeah I know that, they weren't running through it..wasn't stated they were plus it wouldn't make sense in a way.
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We can clearly see Doctor light with them and earths behind her so I disagree they were in the speed force, plus whenever they wanna enter the speed force it's always mentioned they are going to and tell each other to be close and not to get lost and blah,blah family.
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This scan proves clearly they weren't in the speed force but normal 4-D multiverse.

Speed: Massively FTL+ up to Infinite, they need this on their profile since it's truly deserved.
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Antvasima said:
I cannot see the images here.
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First scan.
Second scan.

and Last scan.
 
LordTracer said:
These franchises are literally 80+ years old with hundreds of writers. Obviously, there’s going to be some inconsistency.
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Yes, but I was referring to the ones who don't even seem to make any effort in this regard. The coherence of the continuities of Marvel Comics and DC Comics used to work fine until Quesada and Didiot took over the companies.
 
Also, I removed the manga versus superhero comics argument as it was pointless and derailed this thread. Either of them can be handled well or badly depending on the writers and artists involved.

I definitely agree with that traditionally drawn superheroines usually look more attractive than manga women though, with the exception of a few of those drawn by very skilled Japanese artists, such as Psykos in One-Punch Man. Their eyes, faces, and sometimes their bodies, look far too bizarre, and I also only like mature women in their 20s to 30s, not young teenagers (and definitely not any sick lolicon stuff).
 
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One of my wishes Ant is we get a revamp for spectre.

he’s one of the Big Gs (big good) of DC and it would be nice if we could revise his profile as he’s one of the most important characters in DC plus one of the most broken (assuming the presence isn’t holding him back)

do you like him?
 
Pokemonfan807 said:
One of my wishes Ant is we get a revamp for spectre.

he’s one of the Big Gs (big good) of DC and it would be nice if we could revise his profile as he’s one of the most important characters in DC plus one of the most broken (assuming the presence isn’t holding him back)

do you like him?
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No, too dark, and I am finally losing interest in western superhero comics as a whole. Maybe they will shape up and maybe they won't, but I just don't really enjoy them anymore.
 
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this outta cheer you up ant (and no ant is not hurting anyone, it’s supposed to represent him trying to knock some sense into the comic industry but in a non-physical way obviously)
 
Pokemonfan807 said:
One of my wishes Ant is we get a revamp for spectre.

he’s one of the Big Gs (big good) of DC and it would be nice if we could revise his profile as he’s one of the most important characters in DC plus one of the most broken (assuming the presence isn’t holding him back)

do you like him?
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Disagree with this. Spectre had his own quintessential, and quite underrated if I say so myself, run by Ostrander. There isn't anything much to add for him in my opinion without detracting from it. Dematteis tried it and it was underwhelming, and preachy. What we need is him actually doing shit. Post Flashpoint, he has barely appeared and when he does appear its just some useless fluff. He appears in Rebirth after how long and all we get is a single panel of him screaming, "There will be Vengeance." And disappearing for years again. Its like everyone just forgot about him or just doesn't know what to do with him.
 
He is talking about String Theory and M theory. Not sure they even qualify.
 
Immortalgodd said:
Disagree with this. Spectre had his own quintessential, and quite underrated if I say so myself, run by Ostrander. There isn't anything much to add for him in my opinion without detracting from it. Dematteis tried it and it was underwhelming, and preachy. What we need is him actually doing shit. Post Flashpoint, he has barely appeared and when he does appear its just some useless fluff. He appears in Rebirth after how long and all we get is a single panel of him screaming, "There will be Vengeance." And disappearing for years again. Its like everyone just forgot about him or just doesn't know what to do with him.
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I strongly agree about that Ostrander did the definitive run on The Spectre.
 
Vondoom said:
No problem.

Yeah but Current justification is like this:
Speed: Massively FTL+ (Faster than his Pre-Flashpoint self following his return from the Speed Force.[14] Swifter than Superman[15] and Barry Allen).

I'm proposing it to be like this:
Speed: Massively FTL+ up to Infinite (Faster than his Pre-Flashpoint self following his return from the Speed Force.[14] Swifter than Superman[15] and Barry Allen).

Since they could moving across the multiverse even beyond the orrery to purge the Darkness that affected the entire multiverse.
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About my proposal guys, we still need to do it.
 
That seems fine to me at least. Quickly running across the entire local multiverse seems like an infinite speed feat, yes.
 
What's even more insane is they not only cross the orrery but higher dimensional realms to source wall/or where the source wall used to be, anyways thanks...so should I create a CRT or it can just be applied?
 
I finally read the last issue of Dark Crisis, and I saw the line that the characters would try to bring hope to everybody, rather than just focus on some groups and exclude and demonise the rest, regardless of direction, which would have been extremely divisive to say the least, so I am willing to give the writers and editors some benefit of doubt in case they genuinely mean it.
 
NHTkenshin2 said:
SCP

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SCP atoms scale remastered

Alright since DC and Marvel atoms got upgraded to Beyond^inf irrelevant layers into boundless lowballed and Beyond^inf irrelevant layers into Absolute Infinity midball https://qr.ae/pr1h1z https://qr.ae/prXgkL Might as well upgrade the old SCP atom scale to be comparable with them https://scpfo...
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Marvel and DC

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Debate: DC and Marvel atoms (me) vs Featherine (Xvoltron) #1

Judge is Drained and the rules for the debate here: https://qr.ae/pr1XGg Aight before we start scaling, it should be noted that crossovers between DC and Marvel are canon so their cosmology scaling can be used for each other. https://www.quora.com/How-was-there-a-Canon-crossover-between-DC-and-...
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Is there a good debunk for those?
 
Darkseid and mxy DCeased issue 3

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Kyozen said:
It says that the universe came from 11 dimensions I'm kinda confused why 11 dimensions causing the creation of the universe means the universe is 11d
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The orrey houses the Multiverse created by perpetua which includes all the innumerable higher dimensions . COIE AM would be high 1b or 1b based on it .
 
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Conceptual Manipulation

Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create, and/or destroy abstract concepts. This ability has a variety of applications, ranging from not combat-applicable to incredibly dominating. Conceptual Manipulation involves the manipulation of concepts, and not the universe directly...
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What conceptual manipulation type is the speed force?
 
What bothers me is magic is cool and all but if my opinion when something exists it’s not really special because it exists.

and also magic is not special because all your spells and abilities are based on stuff that already exists in this world (Ice, fire, water, death, explosions, light, etc)

I mean magic does have stuff that doesn’t exist in this real world (existence erasure, soul manipulation, body puppetry, necromancy, etc) but the problem is this kind of stuff, you can think about it and visualize it.

For it to truly be magic it has to be something that you can’t think about it, see it, doesn’t exist in this world, and visualize it (now that’s true magic)
 
Immortalgodd said:
New Superman feats in Action Comics #1050
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It was trending alot but its been long since I read action comics, so I will find time and binge all from where I stopped.

I already knew post-rebirth superman would be more powerful or most people knew since Joshua Williamson is the writer.
 
So can somebody give a wider context to what Superman was doing there please?
 
Antvasima said:
So can somebody give a wider context to what Superman was doing there please?
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He made a portal after Luthor bfred him to Canis Major and dismatled the warsuit with a touch. He also seems to be way stronger than before as he was casually manhandling Luthor before he was bfred. Also, created some sort of red lightning.
 
Okay. So Post-Rebirth Superman should be upgraded to "At least 4-B" and have portal creation added to his abilities then?
 
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