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General DC Comics Discussion Thread

He is talking about String Theory and M theory. Not sure they even qualify.
 
Immortalgodd said:
Disagree with this. Spectre had his own quintessential, and quite underrated if I say so myself, run by Ostrander. There isn't anything much to add for him in my opinion without detracting from it. Dematteis tried it and it was underwhelming, and preachy. What we need is him actually doing shit. Post Flashpoint, he has barely appeared and when he does appear its just some useless fluff. He appears in Rebirth after how long and all we get is a single panel of him screaming, "There will be Vengeance." And disappearing for years again. Its like everyone just forgot about him or just doesn't know what to do with him.
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I strongly agree about that Ostrander did the definitive run on The Spectre.
 
Vondoom said:
No problem.

Yeah but Current justification is like this:
Speed: Massively FTL+ (Faster than his Pre-Flashpoint self following his return from the Speed Force.[14] Swifter than Superman[15] and Barry Allen).

I'm proposing it to be like this:
Speed: Massively FTL+ up to Infinite (Faster than his Pre-Flashpoint self following his return from the Speed Force.[14] Swifter than Superman[15] and Barry Allen).

Since they could moving across the multiverse even beyond the orrery to purge the Darkness that affected the entire multiverse.
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About my proposal guys, we still need to do it.
 
That seems fine to me at least. Quickly running across the entire local multiverse seems like an infinite speed feat, yes.
 
What's even more insane is they not only cross the orrery but higher dimensional realms to source wall/or where the source wall used to be, anyways thanks...so should I create a CRT or it can just be applied?
 
Well, a new CRT is probably best.
 
I finally read the last issue of Dark Crisis, and I saw the line that the characters would try to bring hope to everybody, rather than just focus on some groups and exclude and demonise the rest, regardless of direction, which would have been extremely divisive to say the least, so I am willing to give the writers and editors some benefit of doubt in case they genuinely mean it.
 
NHTkenshin2 said:
SCP

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SCP atoms scale remastered

Alright since DC and Marvel atoms got upgraded to Beyond^inf irrelevant layers into boundless lowballed and Beyond^inf irrelevant layers into Absolute Infinity midball https://qr.ae/pr1h1z https://qr.ae/prXgkL Might as well upgrade the old SCP atom scale to be comparable with them https://scpfo...
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Marvel and DC

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Debate: DC and Marvel atoms (me) vs Featherine (Xvoltron) #1

Judge is Drained and the rules for the debate here: https://qr.ae/pr1XGg Aight before we start scaling, it should be noted that crossovers between DC and Marvel are canon so their cosmology scaling can be used for each other. https://www.quora.com/How-was-there-a-Canon-crossover-between-DC-and-...
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Is there a good debunk for those?
 
Darkseid and mxy DCeased issue 3

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Kyozen said:
It says that the universe came from 11 dimensions I'm kinda confused why 11 dimensions causing the creation of the universe means the universe is 11d
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The orrey houses the Multiverse created by perpetua which includes all the innumerable higher dimensions . COIE AM would be high 1b or 1b based on it .
 
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Conceptual Manipulation

Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create, and/or destroy abstract concepts. This ability has a variety of applications, ranging from not combat-applicable to incredibly dominating. Conceptual Manipulation involves the manipulation of concepts, and not the universe directly...
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What conceptual manipulation type is the speed force?
 
Found this💀 holy hell man, CAS fans are unbearably insufferable 😂

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What bothers me is magic is cool and all but if my opinion when something exists it’s not really special because it exists.

and also magic is not special because all your spells and abilities are based on stuff that already exists in this world (Ice, fire, water, death, explosions, light, etc)

I mean magic does have stuff that doesn’t exist in this real world (existence erasure, soul manipulation, body puppetry, necromancy, etc) but the problem is this kind of stuff, you can think about it and visualize it.

For it to truly be magic it has to be something that you can’t think about it, see it, doesn’t exist in this world, and visualize it (now that’s true magic)
 
Immortalgodd said:
New Superman feats in Action Comics #1050
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It was trending alot but its been long since I read action comics, so I will find time and binge all from where I stopped.

I already knew post-rebirth superman would be more powerful or most people knew since Joshua Williamson is the writer.
 
So can somebody give a wider context to what Superman was doing there please?
 
Okay. So Post-Rebirth Superman should be upgraded to "At least 4-B" and have portal creation added to his abilities then?
 
Immortalgodd said:
He made a portal after Luthor bfred him to Canis Major and dismatled the warsuit with a touch. He also seems to be way stronger than before as he was casually manhandling Luthor before he was bfred. Also, created some sort of red lightning.
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He said his current body and mind are stronger than every before, I could say since he made this statement after having one history with pre-crisis now he could be tier 2 like pre crisis, but let's see more in the future.
 
Yeah. There seems to be a Superman crisis. Though, Jon would participate rather than Clark I guess.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Tbh, I'd say we shouldn't jump the gun on such an upgrade yet, better to just wait and see what other feats he does and then collect it from there.
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Agreed.

He might be back to his Pre-Crisis power levels though.
 
The author (PKJ) said he wanted to bring back Silver Age powers, such as time travel, though I'm not sure if he's directly said they'll be at the same power level.

We'll have to see a bit more before making the new key, but I definitely think he deserves it, there's over 5 statements from it from across the comics themselves, author statements, DC comic descriptions, etc. He also easily defeated Kalibak recently and implied Orion couldn't defeat hin, so he's already showing he's above some of the characters we rate as 4-B.
 
Yeah. Him being above "herald" tier is a given. He was easily handling both Orion and Kalibak.
 
Marvel "heralds" and DC "heralds" apparently have very different degrees of power, and I think that the term sounds kind of dumb to start with, so probably not.
 
Antvasima said:
Marvel "heralds" and DC "heralds" apparently have very different degrees of power, and I think that the term sounds kind of dumb to start with, so probably not.
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They are both more or less in similar level. So, the term gets used mostly because of Galactus' heralds.
 
Marvel "heralds" currently seem to have raw power feats of a much higher scale though, but @Eficiente may be in the process of debunking them, so a downgrade revision may become necessary.
 
Antvasima said:
Marvel "heralds" currently seem to have raw power feats of a much higher scale though, but @Eficiente may be in the process of debunking them, so a downgrade revision may become necessary.
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Its mostly due to the "hyperbolic" shaking feats looking at the profiles though. I am not sure why they even passed the calculation revision. While I am no expert in such a field but I would assume supposed "Galactic level" earthquakes would cause actual damages. But it doesn't even destroy a nearby ship or cause Thor and others to stumble. I think there should be a more stricter evaluation for such things. Not just for Marvel but others too regarding all these "shakings".
 
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