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General DC Comics Discussion Thread

Vondoom said:
No problem.

Yeah but Current justification is like this:
Speed: Massively FTL+ (Faster than his Pre-Flashpoint self following his return from the Speed Force.[14] Swifter than Superman[15] and Barry Allen).

I'm proposing it to be like this:
Speed: Massively FTL+ up to Infinite (Faster than his Pre-Flashpoint self following his return from the Speed Force.[14] Swifter than Superman[15] and Barry Allen).

Since they could moving across the multiverse even beyond the orrery to purge the Darkness that affected the entire multiverse.
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This since it's accepted iirc, should I make a CRT?
 
Vondoom said:
What book please?
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Pre-Crisis seems to be a part of the new DC Comics multiverse, if all of their stories count now, yes.
 
OK, so the characters aren't just becoming composite versions of themselves, just that Pre-Crisis exists in the multiverse now. That's what I thought was happening.
 
From the conclusion of dark knights death metal all the histories of the characters became one since pre-crisis era to rebirth and in recent dark crisis pariah brought back the lost infinite universes and added them to the current multiverse also.
 
I believe there was a scan where someone was talking about the history of the JL and included the Pre Crisis league. I could try to look for that if it sounds relevant.

Edit: I found it, from Dark Crisis: Free Comic Book day. Basically, when someone is explaining the history of the JL, the visual shows Silver Age, Post Crisis and New 52 teams.
 
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Okay, and how was Raven/The Unkindness eventually stopped then?
 
Antvasima said:
Okay, and how was Raven/The Unkindness eventually stopped then?
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Black Adam was transported to the past to prevent it but the whole thing went nowhere. Future State was just random things happening in some part of the multiverse with no real impact. The whole thing is probably abandoned since its been nearly two years.
 
Okay. That is weird, but not unexpected given that DC Comics' editorial department and writers have been far busier systematically thoroughly demonising any critics than actually doing their jobs of keeping their stories reasonably coherent in recent years.

I suppose that The Unkindness may simply have been overwritten during the recent multiversal reboots?
 
Antvasima said:
I suppose that The Unkindness may simply have been overwritten during the recent multiversal reboots?
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I don't think she has been mentioned outside of a few Future State comics. Either they will bring her back down the line like Darkness or just forgot about it.

Antvasima said:
Okay. That is weird, but not unexpected given that DC Comics' editorial department and writers have been far busier systematically thoroughly demonising any critics than actually doing their jobs of keeping their stories reasonably coherent in recent years.
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Eh. I will search for the interviews but it was stated that these are all just "possible" futures. Basically, them just throwing darts and then using what sticks. Jon, New Wonder Woman, etc stuck. The rest I believe were just quietly shelved.
 
I saw this topic and I wanna ask, between Darkseid and TDK who's more Evil?
I know Darkseid is like the Embodiment of evil and all that but TDK kinda seems more evil to me.
 
Can anyone explain why every new god true form is rated as low 1C ?
Each of the different mythologies in sphere of gods have different cosmology.
 
AndrewBennet said:
Can anyone explain why every new god true form is rated as low 1C ?
Each of the different mythologies in sphere of gods have different cosmology.
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there are quite a lot of explanations that make New Gods get Low 1-C so it's simple

For Darkseid why is it low 1-C because fall Avatar Darkseid can make Orrery Of Worlds Vibrate and also Orrery Of Worlds There is Bleed Which has a 5D Structure according to what's in the Multiversity comic

For Orion why is it Low 1-C because Orion absorbs the power of Anti-Life and fights Darkseid with full Power

For Highfather why is it Low 1-C because Equal with Darkseid
 
Vondoom said:
I saw this topic and I wanna ask, between Darkseid and TDK who's more Evil?
I know Darkseid is like the Embodiment of evil and all that but TDK kinda seems more evil to me.
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Well, Darkseid wants to permanently enslave, torture, defile, degrade, corrupt, and violate everybody in existence, whereas TDK wants to kill everything and live in eternal solitude after first turnings all of reality into a twisted nightmare, so I suppose that they are both absolutely evil, but in different ways.
 
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Antvasima said:
What happened in it?
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We find out Failsafe didn’t actually kill Batman, he sent him to another universe within the multiverse with the gun he found in the fortress, rest is just Batman waking up and instantly realizing he’s on a different earth, he checks the place out, gets into a fight, etc. Tim Drake realized the reason Failsafe destroyed the gun bc it might be able to bring Batman back so now he’s doing research on it while protecting Gotham with dick
 
I might be stupid but can a superhero in both marvel and dc be in multiple super hero groups?

like you can be part of the Justice league but you can also be a part of other hero groups.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, Darkseid wants to permanently enslave, torture, defile, degrade, corruot, and violate everybody in existence, whereas TDK wants to kill everything and live in eternal solitude after first turnings all of reality into a twisted nightmare, so I suppose that they are both absolutely evil, but in different ways.
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Yeah but darkseid case seems better than TDK though to me personally, TDK is like some legit evil incarnate.
From another perspective this just shows how evil the joker can be if he had powers.
 
Artorimachi_Meteoraft said:
I might be stupid but can a superhero in both marvel and dc be in multiple super hero groups?

like you can be part of the Justice league but you can also be a part of other hero groups.
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Might depend on the team but generally yeah. Many Lanterns have been on the League while also being on the Green Lantern Corps, and Hulk was on the Defenders and Avengers at the same time.
 
Vondoom said:
Yeah but darkseid case seems better than TDK though to me personally, TDK is like some legit evil incarnate.
From another perspective this just shows how evil the joker can be if he had powers.
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For me is the opposite. Darkseid it's more evil, because he perverses all that is good, rendering all meaningless. All your happy moments? Don't matter. All the people with which you have formed any sort of connection? Don't matter. All the love you have felt for a special person? Don't matter. All your achievements in life? Don't matter.

Everything positive, everything that makes life worth it, he wants to turn it against every single living thing. Every memory, event, story, history, emotion, dream and hope. He corrupts it, makes you feel powerless, makes you lose yourself.

A nightmare scenario is scary, and dying is as well. But to be broken beyond any amount of recognition represents the greatest evil one can inflict to another. And that's what Darkseid wants the most.
 
You might have a point but TDK kinda did similar even taking away all their hopes, even the darkseid from the dark multiverse was also in a way a minion or something to him iirc, still i never see darkseid make the multiverse hopeless like TDK, even the godsphere wasn't out of his sight.

I just feel a dude trying to enslave, corrupt, defile everyone in reality e.t.c isn't as evil as a dude literally trying to kill everything and make reality alone be for nightmares. Plus darkseid once helped justice league fight anti monitor in pre crisis and i remember him helping against the world forger though all help he did were simply for his own gain but anyhow.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
For me is the opposite. Darkseid it's more evil, because he perverses all that is good, rendering all meaningless. All your happy moments? Don't matter. All the people with which you have formed any sort of connection? Don't matter. All the love you have felt for a special person? Don't matter. All your achievements in life? Don't matter.

Everything positive, everything that makes life worth it, he wants to turn it against every single living thing. Every memory, event, story, history, emotion, dream and hope. He corrupts it, makes you feel powerless, makes you lose yourself.

A nightmare scenario is scary, and dying is as well. But to be broken beyond any amount of recognition represents the greatest evil one can inflict to another. And that's what Darkseid wants the most.
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Agreed. Darkseid basically represents all of the most extreme tendencies of the worst tyrants in real world human history combined.
 
Vondoom said:
You might have a point but TDK kinda did similar even taking away all their hopes, even the darkseid from the dark multiverse was also in a way a minion or something to him iirc, still i never see darkseid make the multiverse hopeless like TDK, even the godsphere wasn't out of his sight.

I just feel a dude trying to enslave, corrupt, defile everyone in reality e.t.c isn't as evil as a dude literally trying to kill everything and make reality alone be for nightmares. Plus darkseid once helped justice league fight anti monitor in pre crisis and i remember him helping against the world forger though all help he did were simply for his own gain but anyhow.
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Killing others is not nearly as bad as what Darkseid is doing to them though.
 
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