ShakeResounding
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Introduction
Heya everybody, how's your Wednesday going so far? Hopefully very good for those who are up. And to those sleeping in, I hope you have a very bad day you nerds haha. Jokes aside, it's been a long while since the topic of 4-A has been meaningfully brought up and discussed. Over a year by this point, I think? Man, it's been so long. And with the passage of time comes a change in opinions and a change in circumstances.Well, enough wasting time. Let's get into this!
The Premise
Over a year ago, it made sense to me that Super Forms should upscale from the Final Egg Blaster's 4-A value. It made sense contextually, and I feel that it still does in many ways. But it's probably time to admit how redundant it is, which I've come to realize after some time. If the wording we have in the profiles is kept the same if scaling AP to the Final Egg Blaster is removed entirely altogether, then that kinda speaks volumes to the fact that there's no reason to inhibit Super Forms to have a low end it doesn't need.In the Chaos Emeralds' page, in the AP section, it says "(Are sought by Dr. Eggman for their "unimaginable power", making them far superior to all of his machines, which includes the likes of the Final Egg Blaster)". Which... is equally valid if 4-A is removed altogether. At the very least, it just means Super Forms are valid to directly upscale in terms of Speed. So while the Final Egg Blaster can remain if in the Speed justification, all notes of the Final Egg Blaster in AP should be removed. And, as a result... 4-A is removed as well in every profile sans (heh) the Final Egg Blaster itself.
TL;DR: Scaling to the Final Egg Blaster in anything aside from Speed is removed (they scale above that result anyways), meaning 4-A Supers are removed as well.
The Result
"If 4-A is removed, then what does that mean?"Simple.
The Application
- Super Forms: All Super Forms become "At least Low 2-C to 2-C". Any mentions of the FEB in the Speed section remain.
- Any Super Forms that are listed as "4-A to at least Low 2-C, potentially 2-C" will simply turn into "At least Low 2-C, potentially 2-C"
- Eggman's Mechs: The Super Egg Robot is also placed at Unknown, unless we somehow believe this random bot is Low 2-C. It doesn't even do any meaningful damage to Super Sonic either, like most bosses.
- The Final Weapon will be bumped up to Low 2-C for having the Master Emerald and at least putting up a fight before Super Sonic takes it down. It fighting Hyper Sonic should most definitely be an outlier.
- Final Bosses: They should be looked at on a case-by-case basis to see if they should legitimately scale to Low 2-C for fighting Super Sonic (2-C in special cases). Particularly if they have no anti-feats (Black Doom and Final Hazard), or if the context does support them scaling that high (Metal Overlord and Dark Gaia). This can be discussed on the thread, which I can then probably integrate into the OP with the general consensus.
Conclusion
Alas, poor 4-A! We knew it well!But yeah, that just about covers it. Eat well, exercise, find the demons hiding in your house, etc. Hope you all have a good day, unless you're left-handed. Ciao!
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