Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I know that many may not have seen Mônica's gang when they were children, but the creator paid homage to Akira

Turma da Mônica

Homenagem para o mais lendário Super Saiyajin que já existiu. 💙🧡 Arigatō, Toriyama-sensei!

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[LuffyRuffy46307]

 

[Jinsama]

I never liked this work Sand Land, but i will see out of respect for the Master

people have different tastes but the anime should deliver hard.

the mechanic stuff alone is worth the watch.

oh and btw there was a follow up but no idea if toriyama finished it

 

[Jinsama]

i dont wanna sound like an egoist or some shit but i do hope that the "multiple" projects toriyama had inclue mecha manga/anime

I love you sensei

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

people have different tastes but the anime should deliver hard.

the mechanic stuff alone is worth the watch.

oh and btw there was a follow up but no idea if toriyama finished it

I saw that Akira created this angel and will tell about him

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

i dont wanna sound like an egoist or some shit but i do hope that the "multiple" projects toriyama had inclue mecha manga/anime

I love you sensei

I've read some really good Akira mangas

 

[Jinsama]

Who would win?

Bardocks future sight vs Toriyamas future sight

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I liked Goku better with a lot of muscle and handsome like that, your appearance was so beautiful :3

 

[Killerdrone123]

I liked Goku better with a lot of muscle and handsome like that, your appearance was so beautiful :3

Sus

 

[SirAlex09]

Toriyama apparently had a brain tumor since 2022 and went to surgery in February 2024

 

[BlackeJan]

I’m so confused here. If SSJ2 can be mastered to the point it can rival SSJ3, then how come SSJ hasn’t been trained on much? like they can make it stronger to the point it reaches SSJ2 atp yet it can’t

 

[Ednaxel2]

I’m so confused here. If SSJ2 can be mastered to the point it can rival SSJ3, then how come SSJ hasn’t been trained on much? like they can make it stronger to the point it reaches SSJ2 atp yet it can’t

Where did you get this from?

 

[BlackeJan]

Where did you get this from?

I mean it’s true right? Trunks and Vegeta did it so it just mind boggling how only SSJ2 can do that but not SSJ, all it does it makes ya a bit more powerful and reducing stamina issue

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

I’m so confused here. If SSJ2 can be mastered to the point it can rival SSJ3, then how come SSJ hasn’t been trained on much? like they can make it stronger to the point it reaches SSJ2 atp yet it can’t

Well, keep in mind the base power of the user, the SSJ1 also has different variants as we saw in the Cell saga, the fourth grade is the definitive version of the SSJ, being in itself the last step before the SSJ2, now that Dragon ball Super passes it through the eggs in the universal tournament saga is something else

Where did you get this from?

i guess Trunks vs Goku(?)

 

[BlackeJan]

It just makes it weird cause if SSJ2 can do that then SSJ should also be able to do something of the sort. Let it still be known that Goku still hasn’t mastered SSJ3 yet

 

[ProudLearner]

I’m so confused here. If SSJ2 can be mastered to the point it can rival SSJ3, then how come SSJ hasn’t been trained on much? like they can make it stronger to the point it reaches SSJ2 atp yet it can’t

The higher the power level in base form, the stronger the transformation.

If Saiyan Saga Goku turns SSJ, it will not be enough to kill Frieza. Depending on how strong the base form is, it requires a transformation to surpass the adversery.

Majin Buu Saga Base Goku can one-shot Frieza without SSJ. He does not need to transform.

It is not that SSJ2 is getting close to SSJ3 in terms of power; it is that the individual who transforms to SSJ3 has suppressed his power.

The misconception that one needs a Super Saiyan to surpass another Super Saiyan is flawed. It all depends on how strong their base form is to know whether or not they surpass their adversary by transforming.

 

[BlackeJan]

The higher the power level in base form, the stronger the transformation.

If Saiyan Saga Goku turns SSJ, it will not be enough to kill Frieza. Depending on how strong the base form is, it requires a transformation to surpass the adversery.

Majin Buu Saga Base Goku can one-shot Frieza without SSJ. He does not need to transform.

It is not that SSJ2 is getting close to SSJ3 in terms of power; it is that the individual who transforms to SSJ3 has suppressed his power.

The misconception that one needs a Super Saiyan to surpass another Super Saiyan is flawed. It all depends on how strong their base form is to know whether or not they surpass their adversary by transforming.

I mean imma have to disagree somewhat with what u said. transformation are nothing more then multipliers I get that, however Trunk was able to narrow the gap between SSJ3 with just SSJ2 which the former gives a better power (just shitty stamina). Same with SSJ vs SSJ2. Base Goku (Cell Games) is higher then Gohan’s yet all they needed was a SSJ2 to beat Cell

I just think that the other forms needed to be mastered like how SSJ2 is

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Base Goku (Cell Games) is higher then Gohan’s

I don't think this is the case

 

[BlastX]

It just makes it weird cause if SSJ2 can do that then SSJ should also be able to do something of the sort. Let it still be known that Goku still hasn’t mastered SSJ3 yet

It can, in fact Toriyama originally stated for Battle Of Gods that fully mastering SSJ was better than using SSJ2 and SSJ3 and had less energy drain, to the point Goku would only use his Base and SSJ.

Obviously that didn't come to pass, but he did state that was possible.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

It can, in fact Toriyama originally stated for Battle Of Gods that fully mastering SSJ was better than using SSJ2 and SSJ3 and had less energy drain, to the point Goku would only use his Base and SSJ.

Obviously that didn't come to pass, but he did state that was possible.

I mean, in the first transformation you are already 50x stronger, after that you are at most (going up to ssj3) 10x stronger or 8x depending on which guide you trust most.

When you don't know your opponent's real power, going all out doesn't seem like the best option, considering that the energy expenditure is too great (with the SSJ3) and you're only at most 10x stronger than the normal SSJ ( that someone like Goku could stay the whole fight with that)

So I would only think it would be good to use SSJs 2 or 3 but for the front of the fight...

or

Like Vegeta did in the dbs manga, switching from god to blue when attacking.

 

[Roun12]

I still think this could be important, I still can't see the images

I found the calcs mirrored to another site that has working images.

Calcs: CT123 Edition

For calcs, by me, rehosting from a website that's eating its own tail.

onelastforum.com

 

[BlackeJan]

It can, in fact Toriyama originally stated for Battle Of Gods that fully mastering SSJ was better than using SSJ2 and SSJ3 and had less energy drain, to the point Goku would only use his Base and SSJ.

Obviously that didn't come to pass, but he did state that was possible.

Honestly don’t know why but ig lots of people like SSJ2 and SSJ3 so I would assume that

 

[Ednaxel2]

I found the calcs mirrored to another site that has working images.

Calcs: CT123 Edition

For calcs, by me, rehosting from a website that's eating its own tail.

onelastforum.com

Ah thanks

 

[ProudLearner]

It had to be done:

The Great Lee|Dragon Ball Manga CRT

From Dragon Ball Manga: This profile page is outdated in its current format. It has no scans or references. Also, the justifications from the Durability, Attack Potency, and Speed sections do not match those in the manga. More importantly, he has no name in the manga. The summary is either...

vsbattles.com

 

[BlackeJan]

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

This is... quite the take.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Can Zeno's EE 5D erase a concept?

 

[Robo432343]

Can Zeno's EE 5D erase a concept?

yes bro zeno destroyed infinite zamasu who is the concept of justice and will

 

[Reiner04]

yes bro zeno destroyed infinite zamasu who is the concept of justice and will

Rumours has it that this insult was very reason of Zamasu's zero mortal policy.

 

[Robo432343]

Demigra vs Sonic

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Demigra_(Dragon_Ball_Heroes) vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Modern) SBA Speed Equal

vsbattles.com

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Rumours has it that this insult was very reason of Zamasu's zero mortal policy.

I think Zamasu should have conceptual manipulation, there is a white energy that he calls from the heavens which is cited as being the Justice, among other mentions that he cites throughout the work and seems to know well about the concept (although in a distorted way)

 

[Robo432343]

what does Zamasu do with the white energy?

 

[Reiner04]

what does Zamasu do with the white stuff?

Not sure tbh.

 

[Robo432343]

Not sure tbh.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Not sure tbh.

He uses it to further improve his power

 

[Killerdrone123]

Damn the cat balls better than me

 

[Reiner04]

Damn the cat balls better than me

Catgirl knows how to handle balls indeed.

 

[Robo432343]

 

[Killerdrone123]

Catgirl knows how to handle balls indeed.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

One of the avatars creating the Dr slump multiverse

i've never seen the anime Dr slump, because it's not available here in Brazil, but this scene is incredible