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The arguments AGAINST infinite speed.
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Make sense
CraigTucker
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Hello I am currently not understanding both arguements presented here, can I have a summary to it so I can make a point?
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******* thank you
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https://vsbattles.com/threads/infinite-speed-scaling-question.152165/
I would like some input from all those who have the time to comment please and thank you
I would like some input from all those who have the time to comment please and thank you
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Maybe in this "new age" of infinite speed Dragon Ball, we can finally get those pesky SSJ2 + 3 multipliers accepted
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Well... Dragon Ball does have a history of getting the Infinite Speed standard changed
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CraigTucker
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I feel like I am being ignored lol but anyways in this wiki we already accepted that dragon ball is infinite(maybe) so there is no problem against infinite speed characters in db since lets say frieza space ship travel through the universe in second and the universe is infinite hence the speed wouldn't be mftl+ only but greater due to the cosmology. So yea I find the arguments against infinite speed seems somewhat weak and dry. This is my pince of salt though
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Well I tried, see you all next year!
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He doesn't resist it, he's constantly being damaged. This would fall more with stamina.
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Well, yes. he is affected, but manages to resist and even proceed. I had seen on google that lightning can reach up to 50,000 degrees. So that would be remarkable resistance.
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That's it. even in db gt i remember goku suffering for 5000 degrees. But what about the electricity? Although he was affected, he didn't pass out or anything, on the contrary, he got it by trying.
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That's why it's stamina.
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I understand.
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How we treat multipliers on this site is so funny. Only 50x and 20x, nothing else. According to us, ssj goku is the same strength as super saiyan God goku.
The 'likely higher' doesn't mean or do anything for scaling.
We will calc the most absurd shit but using a bit of basic reasoning is a no go.
Like I sorta get it, it's just funny.
The 'likely higher' doesn't mean or do anything for scaling.
We will calc the most absurd shit but using a bit of basic reasoning is a no go.
Like I sorta get it, it's just funny.
CraigTucker
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Wait didn't goku was able to go inside lava with no damage? honestly its quite sad how DB has show much inconsistence
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Goku and Vegeta can't breathe in space.
Goku breathing in a ******* empty void just fine after Zen'O erased Future Trunks's timeline.
CraigTucker
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Why does the wiki not accept the ssj2 and 3 multiplier?
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SSJ2 being x2 turned around a stomp. And in Super Beerus claims that the boost from Super Saiyan 2 to 3 was far larger than any of the jumps before.
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It is above, unquantifiably above
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Not consistent with the feats
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Can you elaborate? I think even in dbz kakarot the multipliers are declared (not that it's relevant)
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Well, gohan went from high 4-C to 4-B for example, have no horse in this race tho, so no opinion
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Tbh the 2x multiplier being a stomp could be explained by Gohan having a rage amp to go along with the transformation. SS2 is a 2x, what allowed him to stomp cell is an unquantifiable rage boost. Later in the Gohan vs Dabura fight Gohan is stated to be capable of beating Dabura if he gets angry.
It's either a rage boost or some sort of potential unlock.
It's either a rage boost or some sort of potential unlock.
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He also had a rage buff like the friend mentioned above, but sla. Too bad I can't use dbz kakarot for anything useful. lol
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In dbz it's really common for a difference of 2x to be something quite absurd, and sometimes not so much. I think it depends.
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I just put it as SSJ Gohan not showing his true power before 16 death due to lack of motivation (Your state of mind also affect how much Ki you can output).
Once he went SSJ2 not only did he become twice as strong, but was actually motivated to fight, so he seemed to gain a bigger boost than normal.
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As for the Super Saiyan 3 being a larger increase than any of the other transformation. Couldn't that be explained by Goku's power increase from SS2 to SS3 being larger than SS1-SS2 or Base-SS1?
Base Goku: 1
SS Goku: 50 (49 points increase)
SS2 Goku: 100 (50 points increase)
SS3 Goku: 400 (300 points increase)
Base Goku: 1
SS Goku: 50 (49 points increase)
SS2 Goku: 100 (50 points increase)
SS3 Goku: 400 (300 points increase)
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Could’ve sworn that’s what was stated in El Manga Legendario.
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Tbh with that SS3 argument you can argue that SS3 is a 50x increase over SS1
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Tbh with that SS3 argument you can argue that SS3 is a 50x increase over SS1
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