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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

By the way guys I’m really not joking about the speeds since universe traveling feats that give infinite results would be deemed outliers characters from either continuity are forced to scale from Saiyan saga feats.
 
AguilaR202 said:
By the way guys I’m really not joking about the speeds since universe traveling feats that give infinite results would be deemed outliers characters from either continuity are forced to scale from Saiyan saga feats.
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Don't understand what you saying can you explain it again
 
Quasar002 said:
You can see galaxies in the background, maybe there are several other divine races there, there are several possibilities!
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Japonês

12 宇宙とは異なる空間に浮かぶ惑星
Planets floating in different spaces from that of the 12 universes

As I said before, calling "different space" (異なる空間), does sound more how they call what is generically here a different dimension, especially considering that they put stuff like the World of Void.



@Executor_N0 translated

Inglês

 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Japonês

12 宇宙とは異なる空間に浮かぶ惑星
Planets floating in different spaces from that of the 12 universes

As I said before, calling "different space" (異なる空間), does sound more how they call what is generically here a different dimension, especially considering that they put stuff like the World of Void.



@Executor_N0 translated

Inglês

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There is very little information about the Hakaishin, angels and zeno. Dragon ball still has a lot to show!
 
CraigTucker said:
Don't understand what you saying can you explain it again
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Most relevant MFTL+ speed feats we use on profiles would become infinite speed because they rely on characters traveling large portions of an as of now, infinite universe.

If all those feats are deemed outliers, only feats that are usable go back to the days of the Saiyan Saga.
 
Huesito88 said:
Trolling with the truth, if the standards of infinite speed and Tiering system change then they're bound to be some that will be downgraded
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Pin on cat


I wouldn't be suprised if they are making a thread rn explainging why infinite speed is a problem
 
AguilaR202 said:
Most relevant MFTL+ speed feats we use on profiles would become infinite speed because they rely on characters traveling large portions of an as of now, infinite universe.

If all those feats are deemed outliers, only feats that are usable go back to the days of the Saiyan Saga.
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Well we have to hear the argument for the outliers but anywho both beerus and goku clash was mftl+ so even if they address the mftl there is still light speed and other stuff
 
The current speed ratings are indeed wrong Omega but we have to address it in another crt but it seems like the new dragon ball infinite universe crt is Finna be based off translations when Executor already translated everything for us so that’s strange but kaioshin realm is still valid because it’s a tenth of the living world and afterlife which includes heaven
 
godofice said:
The current speed ratings are indeed wrong Omega but we have to address it in another crt but it seems like the new dragon ball infinite universe crt is Finna be based off translations when Executor already translated everything for us so that’s strange but kaioshin realm is still valid because it’s a tenth of the living world and afterlife which includes heaven
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I thought it was very unfair that guy talking about the infinite universe was accepted, but in every CRT of the infinite universe he just argued that it was all hyperbole, he literally saw nothing of the topic and already stated that it is hyperbole, and we show arguments refuting it there.
 
godofice said:
The current speed ratings are indeed wrong Omega but we have to address it in another crt but it seems like the new dragon ball infinite universe crt is Finna be based off translations when Executor already translated everything for us so that’s strange but kaioshin realm is still valid because it’s a tenth of the living world and afterlife which includes heaven
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like a sage lephyr once said "don't take things for granted"
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
am currently participating on the talk with deagonx and lordgriffin, there's possibility indeed that we may have to downgrade the infinite universe
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Serious? The GT saying that there is a Galaxy without limits and the guides citing the existence of infinite Galaxies, only if he says that it is hyperbole (as he said throughout the CRT of the infinite Universe)

Can you close Janemba's CRT?
 
Maybe we should just go full ****** when it comes to infinte properties with zero contradictions and trash anti feats

The only verses who would survive are verses from authors who had battleboarding in mind, lol.

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But at least we got my Broooooly to multi galaxy ... solar system was just ridiculous
 
Jinsama said:
Maybe we should just go full ****** when it comes to infinte properties with zero contradictions and trash anti feats

The only verses who would survive are verses from authors who had battleboarding in mind, lol.

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But at least we got my Broooooly to multi galaxy ... solar system was just ridiculous
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I really hope you are very happy with this.
 
Evidence for SS2 being an at least 2x multiplier over SS1:

SS2 Gohan with just one arm at half power outbeams SPC while SS1 Gohan can't beat PC.

SS1 Gohan < Perfect Cell < Super Perfect Cell < One-Armed Half-Power SS2 Gohan <(2x) Full Power SS2 Gohan

Evidence for SS3 being an at least 2x multiplier over SS2.

SS2 Goku fights equally in a 1V1 against SS2 Caulifla. SS Kale is equal to or stronger than SS2 Caulifla. Goku negated both of their attacks at the same time with just his aura when transforming into SS3.

Controlled Berserk Kale >= SS2 Caulifla = SS2 Goku <(2x) Kale+Caulifla simultaneous energy attack < SS3 Goku.

Let me know what you guys think.
 
Now that I establish a possible multiplier for SS2 and SS3. I'll try giving SSG a possible wiki-usable multiplier.

When Goku fought Beerus for the first time, he notes that not even a fusion would be capable of beating him.

Base Vegito is stronger than SS3 Goku as stated by the Daizenshuu. So with a theoretical 2x multiplier for SS2 and SS3 over their respective previous forms. If we put SSG Goku as stronger than SS Vegito, SSG would have a theoretical multiplier of over 50x Base Vegito, who's stronger than SS3 Goku.

Base Goku <(50x) SS Goku <(2x) SS2 Goku <(2x) SS3 Goku < Base Vegito <(50x) SS Vegito < SSG Goku

Total multiplier
SS1: 50x
SS2: <100x
SS3: <200x
SSG: <10000x

For a highball. Goku might even factor in Vegito being able to use SS2 or maybe even SS3. So with that in mind, a highball for SSG Goku would be 20000x to 40000x times base.
 
For the fun of it. I'll try giving a possible multiplier for SS4.

SS3 Goku can't do anything against Baby Vegeta, who's basically using an equivalent of SS in terms of transformation. He later on transformed two more times. And his transformations seems to be an equivalent to SS2 and SS3. Super Baby 2 loses his eyebrows and his hair grows longer, though not to the same extent as Goku's own SS3. SS4 Goku stomped him.

Base Goku <(50x) SS Goku <(2x) SS2 Goku <(2x) SS3 Goku < Baby Vegeta <(2x) SF1 Baby Vegeta <(2x) SF2 Baby Vegeta < Golden Oozaru Goku < SS4 Goku

So we end up with a theoretical SS4 multiplier of at least 800x.
 
Padaruyos said:
For the fun of it. I'll try giving a possible multiplier for SS4.

SS3 Goku can't do anything against Baby Vegeta, who's basically using an equivalent of SS in terms of transformation. He later on transformed two more times. And his transformations seems to be an equivalent to SS2 and SS3. Super Baby 2 loses his eyebrows and his hair grows longer, though not to the same extent as Goku's own SS3. SS4 Goku stomped him.

Base Goku <(50x) SS Goku <(2x) SS2 Goku <(2x) SS3 Goku < Baby Vegeta <(2x) SF1 Baby Vegeta <(2x) SF2 Baby Vegeta < Golden Oozaru Goku < SS4 Goku

So we end up with a theoretical SS4 multiplier of at least 800x.
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Will this ever be accepted on the wiki? it makes a lot of sense, but the wiki is sometimes too hard.
 
Padaruyos said:
For the fun of it. I'll try giving a possible multiplier for SS4.

SS3 Goku can't do anything against Baby Vegeta, who's basically using an equivalent of SS in terms of transformation. He later on transformed two more times. And his transformations seems to be an equivalent to SS2 and SS3. Super Baby 2 loses his eyebrows and his hair grows longer, though not to the same extent as Goku's own SS3. SS4 Goku stomped him.

Base Goku <(50x) SS Goku <(2x) SS2 Goku <(2x) SS3 Goku < Baby Vegeta <(2x) SF1 Baby Vegeta <(2x) SF2 Baby Vegeta < Golden Oozaru Goku < SS4 Goku

So we end up with a theoretical SS4 multiplier of at least 800x.
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It would be more like 8000x if Oozaru10x multiplier is accounted for.
 
Padaruyos said:
Now that I establish a possible multiplier for SS2 and SS3. I'll try giving SSG a possible wiki-usable multiplier.

When Goku fought Beerus for the first time, he notes that not even a fusion would be capable of beating him.

Base Vegito is stronger than SS3 Goku as stated by the Daizenshuu. So with a theoretical 2x multiplier for SS2 and SS3 over their respective previous forms. If we put SSG Goku as stronger than SS Vegito, SSG would have a theoretical multiplier of over 50x Base Vegito, who's stronger than SS3 Goku.

Base Goku <(50x) SS Goku <(2x) SS2 Goku <(2x) SS3 Goku < Base Vegito <(50x) SS Vegito < SSG Goku

Total multiplier
SS1: 50x
SS2: <100x
SS3: <200x
SSG: <10000x

For a highball. Goku might even factor in Vegito being able to use SS2 or maybe even SS3. So with that in mind, a highball for SSG Goku would be 20000x to 40000x times base.
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I’ve thought of this before as well, I’m pretty certain Vegito is capable of ssj2 and 3, if gotenks can do it, and his components can only use Ssj.
 
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