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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Honestly, I feel a better way to argue for SSJ2-SSJ3 Multipliers to get accepted is looking at the other instances of it being used and seeing if it's consistent.

I swear every single discussion about it is just about SSJ2 Teen Gohan and nothing else, that way you get nowhere.
 
Actually, using the Buu Saga to determine how much of a boost SSJ2 is should be more accurate than the Cell Saga, because back then not only did it not have a name, but it wasn't even confirmed what it was, it was just considered "Gohan's Hidden Power Awakened", Toriyama could better establish what it was in the Buu Saga.
 
Tbh in DBS there's really no way of comparing SS1 to SS2 directly. Since it's all about the god forms at that point.

You could argue via Kefla that her SS2 allowed her to compete and even one shot UIO2 Goku, who should be 20x stronger than SSB Goku which she was fighting with SS1 briefly, although Goku had to use Kaioken later on.

But Kefla's form is unique, even if the multiplier is accepted to Kefla it won't scale to any other SS forms since it's a weird Broly-like form.
 
We have
Super Saiyan 2 Gohan vs Bojack and his crew
Super Saiyan 2 Gohan vs Dabura
Super Saiyan 2 Gohan vs LSSJ Broly
Super Saiyan 2 Gohan getting clapped by Fat Buu
SSJ2 Goku vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta
SSJ2 Majin Vegeta vs Fat Buu
SSJ2 Goku vs Kid Buu (Anime Only)
SSJ2 Vegeta vs Kid Buu
SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta vs Hirudegarn
SSJ2 Goku briefly fights Fat Janemba
SSJ2 Vegeta vs Super Janemba
SSJ2 Goku vs Beerus
SSJ2 Vegeta Enraged vs Beerus
SSJ2 Trunks vs Dabura
SSJ2 Trunks vs Black
SSJ2 Trunks vs SSJ2/3 Goku
SSJ2 Goku vs Black (anime only)
SSJ2 Goku vs Zamasu (anime only)
SSJ2 Vegeta vs SSJ Black (Manga only)
SSJ2 Gohan gets choked out by Piccolo
SSJ2 Goku fights the Pride Troopers (Manga only)
SSJ2 Goku fights SSJ2 Caulifa and Kale (anime only)
Cabba goes SSJ2 and fights the Ball girl (anime only)
SSJ2 Vegeta fights Moro briefly

also just to throw in GT, SSJ2 Goku powered up against Rildo

and that’s all the showings of the form in the series as far as I know
 
If SSJ2 and SSJ3 multipliers aren’t accepted due to them seeming to being higher than what they should be shouldn’t the stated ones work as a lowball?
 
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