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Doctor Doom vs Rick

Definitely but like if he has prep time then it would be used I'd assume. Since it shows Ricks capacity to create and alter Story Elements right

Anyways pls vote so we can end this
Yeah prep time but it would probably depend on the opponent considering he himself said he doesn't like using meta stuff

Anyways sure incon fra
 
I only counted people who were final in their votes, Idk who I missed. You? If you wanna keep being stubborn sure I'll count ya Ig
 
Also, there's still the fact Doom can just ghost fight in the air which honestly does turn this into a stomp 12 ways around as of now. So I don't even know if the fight can be added
 
No feats that shows its character = Its not gonna be used

Same way why for example Afton from Fnaf is able to warp Reality with Remnant but since he has never used it we dont assume it is In Character, plus even then Rick debatably can interact and seal it away.

Anyways I am tired of this circle ahh arguments
 
No feats that shows its character = Its not gonna be used

Same way why for example Afton from Fnaf is able to warp Reality with Remnant but since he has never used it we dont assume it is In Character, plus even then Rick debatably can interact and seal it away.
That is not the same thing, you are arguing that Doom would give up the fight of his own accord which is against SBA. If you want to argue him not doing that then you'd have to argue a different response for him to do that is in character since if thats his only option to rejoin the fight then he's gonna do it. Also Rick being debatably capable of interacting with him is being  very generous and sealing is a basic thing for Marvel which Doon can resist and negate
 
They want to win but still in character, Doom has never done it so he wont do it. Thats how in character works, this is like me saying Rick will take out a meta fictional manipulation thing and win which is horribly OOC.
 
They want to win but still in character, Doom has never done it so he wont do it. Thats how in character works, this is like me saying Rick will take out a meta fictional manipulation thing and win which is horribly OOC.
No, that's like saying 'If Rick's only option to left with only the option to use the Meta-Fiction, he will use it'. I'm not saying Doom starts the fight astra projecting but astral projections are a thing he does and it's been shown by a character, whom he knows everything they do, that they can do so after death.
 
I mean, it's akin to Doom just having a "Revive" button when he dies, and his only other choice would be to just do nothing Ig
We are not even sure if Doom knows how to do it, we just powerscale it. He has never done it like that. Again Physiology pages dont mean you can do everything in them all the time, Fnaf is a primary example of this.
 
We are not even sure if Doom knows how to do it. He has never done it.
We are sure, because it's been explicitly said that he knows everything the character does and is considered superior to them in magic. Him not doing so himself is an irrelevant argument because Doom isn't dying constantly.

Again Physiology pages dont mean you can do everything in them all the time, Fnaf is a primary example of this.
..... but its something he's explicitly capable of doing and has no real strings attached to it. The only issue is the fact you refuse to acknowledge that he could know how to do something which he's already been accepted to know
 
We are sure, because it's been explicitly said that he knows everything the character does and is considered superior to them in magic
Yet he has never done it so we are actually just assuming he can. Its just a possibility, with no proof. Physiology pages dont allow you to do EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME, again look it up on other pages.


William Afton has High Tier yet he cannot use Life Manipulation because he has never shown to


Amumu is one of the most powerful Yordles but since he has never shown to be able to use Glamour, he cannot use it in vs threads.

Many examples of this exists, its not in character since Doom has never done it and additionally we are not even sure he can do it. No proof, no hold up.
 
Yet he has never done it so we are actually just assuming he can. Its just a possibility, with no proof. Physiology pages dont allow you to do EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME, again look it up on other pages.


William Afton has High Tier yet he cannot use Life Manipulation because he has never shown to


Amumu is one of the most powerful Yordles but since he has never shown to be able to use Glamour, he cannot use it in vs threads.

Many examples of this exists, its not in character since Doom has never done it and additionally we are not even sure he can do it. No proof, no hold up.
You are literally making arguments on things that have nothing to do with this lol. We literally know he has it because again he's explicitly accepted to having all of her powers. So the only argument is you repeatedly saying "Doom gives up because I say so", show proof on why Doom who knows all of Morgan le Fay's magic wouldn't know Morgan le Fay's powers. You are making a non-argument right now
 
Show proof where he does it, dont shot me Morgan Freeman or whatever. Show me Doom doing anything like that or any argument that even remotely implies this would be his response to death. If you do then I'll agree, plus again Rick should be able to affect the astral forms. Time Crystals should make NEP useless
 
Should also note that because it's in the Physiology, William could theoretically use the rest of high Remnant shit
 
Yep, THEORETICALLY.

Doesn't mean Afton will randomly start pulling up and giving life to random objects and souls. You yourself said this many times, don't double down now lol.
 
Yep, THEORETICALLY.

Doesn't mean Afton will randomly start pulling up and giving life to random objects and souls. You yourself said this many times, don't double down now lol.
In-character, yes. BUT stories don't really kill Doom and he hates losing, put 2 and 2 together yeh?

Not like I really care RN lol, my vote is cast.
 
In-character, yes. BUT stories don't really kill Doom and he hates losing, put 2 and 2 together yeh?
Yeah they don't, thats sad since we'll never know if he will use this new technique of magic he has never used. Let's not go and give Afton the ability to warp Reality and create entire Pocket Dimensions when he is about to die shall we?
 
Yeah they don't, thats sad since we'll never know if he will use this new technique of magic he has never used. Let's not go and give Afton the ability to warp Reality and create entire Pocket Dimensions when he is about to die shall we?
He chose not to, in a way.

Which IMO is kinda funny considering every other time the man has been tenacious and just went "This is life now"

So, that doesn't work.
 
Yeah they don't, thats sad since we'll never know if he will use this new technique of magic he has never used. Let's not go and give Afton the ability to warp Reality and create entire Pocket Dimensions when he is about to die shall we?
You are literally making up your own arguments. Doom explicitly has Morigan's knowledge on this which the page itself gives him.

Your agreement to this is not a factor, its already been accepted and is on the very same page you are trying to argue Doom doesn't get shit from. You are making strawman arguments for things that don't apply here.
 
Incon

Other than FRA, sheer size without a solution justifies adding the match as incon to both profiles
 
Time Crystals should make NEP useless
How so?

Also, switching to Doctor Doom since thinking about it I feel like even though he would mainly use science hax against Rick he'd probably use a win-con first, like nerve hax, one-shot, freezing hax (followed by him just smashing the ice to pieces), magic portal followed by him just sending Rick through there to a place like the High 1-B Hell, and so on.

Also, has Rick ever actually opened a portal inside of someone? And Doom resists magic, which automatically warps space-time (for reference of how much, a muggle in Marvel who injected magic into his blood unintentionally caused a space-time rift just from getting injured and spilling some blood), now that I think about it, so I doubt a space-rifting portal gun would work.
 
Also, has Rick ever actually opened a portal inside of someone?
Yes. I sent it a dozen times at this point, he also can do shit like drop portals into portals.
And Doom resists magic, which automatically warps space-time (for reference of how much, a muggle in Marvel who injected magic into his blood unintentionally caused a space-time rift just from getting injured and spilling some blood), now that I think about it, so I doubt a space-rifting portal gun would work.
That is not how resistances work, Doom resists space time but Rick here is just making something appear inside his body to durability negate. Like cmon, Doom doesnt resist that type of attack
 
That is not how resistances work, Doom resists space time but Rick here is just making something appear inside his body to durability negate. Like cmon, Doom doesnt resist that type of attack
That is how is works, because Doom's defenses prevent the abilities from reaching him as the armor shields block them out. It attacking the inside of his body is irrelevant due to the fact that it wouldn't be able to reach him in the first place. You keep arguing about durability negation as if Doom's resistances don't already cover attacks from the inside and doesn't have shields that protect his entire body already.
 
He never survived brain damage and has been attacked from within several times iirc. But at this point I think this is gonna be added as an Incon due to argument rule yikes
 
He never survived brain damage and has been attacked from within several times iirc.
Him surviving is an irrelevant point and his resistances still cover durability negation. The only instance that I can recall him being attacked internally literally had his armor, making it irrelevant to this point.

You haven't made a singular point against Doom resisting the portals that doesn't involve ignoring things about him that have already been accepted, additionally Rick still has nothing that can counter Astral Projections.
 
My proof on why Doom wont do that: He never did it. Lol
Bad. Argument considering SBA.
No feats that shows its character = Its not gonna be used
It's disingenuous considering you'll allow Rick a pretty inconsistent wincon that you only have one episode's worth of proof to back up vs the other Seasons that prove this is an inconsistency and Dr.Doom's Supernatural Luck/Probability manipulation that comes with base magic passively. most likely negates this as well.


Doom has never done it so he wont do it
Because he's never been in a situation to die and use it. Doom RARELY DIES.
However, Doom is known for being a man with a drive. It isn't OOC for him to do something like this.



We are not even sure if Doom knows how to do it
We are sure, because it's been explicitly said that he knows everything the character does and is considered superior to them in magic. Him not doing so himself is an irrelevant argument because Doom isn't dying constantly.
^^


Show proof where he does it, dont shot me Morgan Freeman or whatever. Show me Doom doing anything like that or any argument that even remotely implies this would be his response to death. If you do then I'll agree, plus again Rick should be able to affect the astral forms. Time Crystals should make NEP useless
you want them to do what they've been doing?


ANYWAYS! put me for Doom FRA. He hax stomps so bad and Rick's wincon is pretty out of character considering how he consistently goes into fighting new opponents.
 
Welp Marvel has too much support and I am only one guy, cant do nuthin' about it. Even though I could argue further it ultimately wont matter

Either its a Inconclusive for me or a Stomp so I am just gonna unwatch this.
 
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