MadeByZiggy
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it's doom.
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Doctor Doom vs Rick
- Thread starter Maverick_Zero_X
- Start date
MadeByZiggy
He/Him- 91
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Also, with Operation Phoenix.
from the times it is used. It seems EXTREMELY unreliable I mean how many times did Rick die to the pope despite his prep and how many "fascist" universes did he go to before finally settling on the wasp one? That's enough for a self Incap tbh.
from the times it is used. It seems EXTREMELY unreliable I mean how many times did Rick die to the pope despite his prep and how many "fascist" universes did he go to before finally settling on the wasp one? That's enough for a self Incap tbh.
noninho
He/Him- 4,023
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Rick - 1 (@Catbowtie)
Dr. Doom - 6 (@Hasty12345, @DaReaperMan, @Detective_Blizzard, @Eseseso, @Unkn0wnAether, @Tomfer)
Inconclusive - 6 (@ShionAH, @TheOrangeGuy09, @AbaddonTheDisappointment, @Tonygameman, @noninho, @Spinoirr)
In 24h we can add it as incon, officially.
Dr. Doom - 6 (@Hasty12345, @DaReaperMan, @Detective_Blizzard, @Eseseso, @Unkn0wnAether, @Tomfer)
Inconclusive - 6 (@ShionAH, @TheOrangeGuy09, @AbaddonTheDisappointment, @Tonygameman, @noninho, @Spinoirr)
In 24h we can add it as incon, officially.
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By Arrow and Ziggy voted for Doom as well
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So the actual current votes are 1 for Rick, 8 for Doom, and 6 for Inconcludive.
Just 1 more vote needed to un-inconclusive
Just 1 more vote needed to un-inconclusive
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Grace for Doom
Dragonite007
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Incon FRA
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Shion's going to people's profiles for incon votes..... that's something
ShionAH
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Huh? I asked @Catbowtie to revote since his vote doesnt matter right now, seeing that they sided with Rick I heavily doubt they will vote Doom rather than Inconclusive. Dont you want to get a conclusion?
If you mean my old posts, that was when it was like 1-1-5. Lol.
If you mean my old posts, that was when it was like 1-1-5. Lol.
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Don't do that. Looks very bad.
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A conclusion is already in process, that line of logic doesn't line up.
Yeah, this
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- Thread starter
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Rick's Doomed FRA
MadeByZiggy
He/Him- 91
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grace for doom
1 - rick
10 - Doom
7 - Incon
1 - rick
10 - Doom
7 - Incon
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Already out of the initial grace period, it's a Doom win
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might as well ask while I'm here, why? The current results are leaning more in favor for Doom and there's been little to no counter arguments against Astral Projections besides just denying their existence
Catbowtie
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Never mind, I'm on time.
@MintyBoi1 casted the Grace vote at 14:22 Yesterday. 24-hour Grace would have it at 14:22 today.
@MintyBoi1 casted the Grace vote at 14:22 Yesterday. 24-hour Grace would have it at 14:22 today.
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Grace started before that since we had already hit an inconclusive grace before that
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Well it don't really matter, let me in on this shit before it's closed, doubling down for Doom.
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I see nothing in the rules that says the timer resets
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I voted in spirit before the recast, I was making breakfast tho 
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(also it's kinda shitty to prolong this fight any longer when that vote was directly asked for and wasnt even explained as for why it turned inconclusive)
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It kinda does:
So any time the thread reaches an invalid vote count, there isn't a count at all until the votes are valid for a grace period again.
That being said, after reading the thread over, I have to agree Doom wins here.
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Ah, fair enough. Should have some mention in there that it can reset though since by words alone it sounds like the final vote would still be considered valid assuming it's still valid after 24 hours.
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Shields prevent portal shit, astral projection most likely is a sure-win if pulled off, and has methods to both sense and counter operation phoenix.
Except Doom still resists the primary means Rick could one shot, and Rick is less likely to start off with it then Doom would.
Rick was given all of his equipment, meaning he does have some means of victory before Doom could use an Astral Projection. The likelihood of these being pulled off however are very slim, however the ability to do so means it's not a proper stomp
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Plus his normal AP one-shots, has sleep and freezing hax, or if pushed can just make a magic portal to a High 1-B realm and kick Rick through.
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Standard*
Additionally no, Rick was specifically given all his recourses and Doom still has various counters against 6D levels of destruction. You had only been arguing for the portals while I've been arguing for all fronts, you simply ignored every possibility because you wanted to discredit things already accepted.
It's literally accepted on the magic pages that it does protects him from internal attacks too, you are just ignoring evidence that is already accepted
ShionAH
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Wtf does "all resources" mean here, that only works if he had prep
If rick has all his equipment then this changes alot, since now he wont use his portal gun and likely just nuke doom on a 6D level or EE him out of existence on a 6D level. I would be fine with adding this as a rick loss if he only had standart equipment but he has everything? That changes alot
If rick has all his equipment then this changes alot, since now he wont use his portal gun and likely just nuke doom on a 6D level or EE him out of existence on a 6D level. I would be fine with adding this as a rick loss if he only had standart equipment but he has everything? That changes alot
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All resources means all resources
Wouldn't work, Doom has precognition, Cosmic senses, has layered resistances towards space-time, reality warping, ectectect, and could literally just teleport out of the range of the attack if need be (also even if he did die that would result in Astral Projections) and resists EE
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So let's go with what the profiles and pages give him and explain in great detail? OK
Funny enough, he doesn't resist age manipulation, Rick breaking time would give some issue due to the difference in Non-existences, and while he does resist sleep manipulation it's not as good as Rick's version.
Plus he has his own precognition and shit which could let him activate Operation Phoenix and give him more time needed to create additional win conditions, while the results are unlikely, they are there. He can beat Doom, it's just that it's decisively unlikely.
(Note: can't look at every single possible win condition so Rick likely has more, it's just not something I have time to find RN)
ShionAH
He/Him- 17,363
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Rick's sleep manipulation needs him to put the Inceptors into your ear
Age Manipulation can only be done on Rick himself, also its with a syringe that needs to be injected
Rick refuses to use Precognition from the Death Crystals unless he is bloodlusted or has prep time and knows he needs to use them.
Age Manipulation can only be done on Rick himself, also its with a syringe that needs to be injected
Rick refuses to use Precognition from the Death Crystals unless he is bloodlusted or has prep time and knows he needs to use them.
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Rick is given all of his resources and is aware of the fight starting, he literally says "I don't use them" after having just used them.
Again, I can't look at all of his abilities right now and cross reference between 4 different resistance pages right now. However the arguments are still there and if you thought the fight wasn't a stomp before Rick had all of his stuff, them him having it shouldn't suddenly be changing your opinions saying he gets stomped.
