Vergil and Dante regenerating from their own attacks
The same guy that couldn't heal an arm that was ripped off by sheer force, not even an attacks. Yes sounds fair. A single word vs Nero's whole character
>Regeneration without his regen being affected
I mean i'd have to read everything from the beginning to make sure i don't miss anything and write it all down. Come on, it's not even that long of a read.
So we still going to ignore the moment Yamato went near Nero, he regenerates and can go DT ? And the fact Nero without Devil arm/yamato his dead weight ?
Well y'all argued that when they cannot regenerate from the attacks it's regeneration negation. So let me get this straight.
Again, that single line there defies the whole point of Nero, that he is incapable of regeneration because he has not awakened his demon form. Which is the reason he was killed by the knights in DMC4 even though a normal devil wouldn't have died to those. Why he was unable to regenerate his arm in DMC5. Again you are taking 2 random quotes and putting them above the entire lore/events that happen in both games he was in.
You quoted me saying "their clothes not getting ripped of is a game designer choice" though. What did that have to do with whatever you're arguing.
These are the kind of layers of hax you'd have to give everyone for it to make sense otherwise, whereas otherwise you'd just have to remove regen from certain demons that clearly....have no regen. Hell even the saviour was incapable of regen. It had its face crushed by Nero and it could not regen, just his face. And the saviour is created from tons of people, it's even stronger than DMC3 Dante and Vergil, so by the logic of AP its regen would scale way beyond them. Credo couldn't regen. The phantom couldn't regen, it wasn't even killed by anyone, it just got impaled by a statued and died. Regeneration negation for the statue FRA.
5: Deathless Immortality: Characters who exist unbound by conventional life or death, or do not exist at all, and thus cannot be traditionally killed
One demon? Isn't that what im saying though? That there are several demons (like Beowulf), being incapable of regeneration.
Lore says they regen, the lack of feats can be easily solved with: Regen neg and Dante/Vergil oneshoting (thanks to yamato). Which Vergil actually does against Beowulf.
I have no idea what level of headcanon you used to get the "he attacked with a broken claw means he regenerated it", but it's gotta be over 9000 for sure. You can attack with a broken claw, sword, weapon just fine. Not really a reason to say "it healed" that is absolute headcanon.
Headcanon....stated or shown absolutely nowhere. Both the fact that demonic power is related to regen and that it needs to be focused. Not to mention that it's a wrong headcanon cus it means that brain destruction would be fatal, because they'd be unable to control their demonic power in that state.
Dante has feats of regeneration negation? That's wrong. Dante has never fought a dude who can clearly regenerate and negate his regenerating capability with the only somewhat of an exception being Urizen which as i've proved "it's after a fight so their regen gets weaker".
That physiology scan says that "no matter how much demon blood you have a heart cut will kill you", which is flat untrue cus we've seen Dante regenerate from it. But should we take that same statement as gospel too now? And there is not a statement anywhere about there not being demons incapable of regeneration. If a statement says "no matter how good of a human you are you will not outswim a motorboat", doesn't mean that there aren't humans who can't swim just because that line implied that being human is related to the ability to swim.
Ah lovely. First of all those scans show 2 random demons that are capable of regen, not all demons can regen.
Tired doesn't mean their regen gets weaker. It's getting lots of constant damage that weakens their regen. Physically tired has nothing to do with it.
I mean...you quote one line and answer another.......yeah sounds fair, whatever you say.
And that defeats my point how?
He is not covered in blood. His entire chest area is clear.
For some reason dante forgot to show the next scan i will post just give me a minute
One statement that is contracted by a lot of feats in the series posted in this thread
The scan is clear that he was melted and regenerated and Yamato did give Nero new demonic powers, so i fall to see you logic here
You argument that we not seeing they wounds is because game designer choice i showed to you that even as kid, Vergil regen was not taxed in the slightest
Easily debunkable by "he needs to receive more continuous damage than that".
Still waiting your scans for that and you did not responded about Vergil vs Mundus that i posted earlier
no. that scan says you need to overwhelm its mid (or high-mid?) regen not hit it enough times. you can hit it as much as you want but if you dont finish it, it will regen.
no? why would it be on the floor before he fell? that doesnt even make any sense. most likely it would have been on his coat and when he fell it started to leak out.
Demons and hybrids gains demonic power by dealing pain and recieving pain, which would still allow their regeneration being faster.
Kid Vergil is at death's door and his regen isnt impressive, the moment he encounters yamato and gets his inner demon unlocked, he kills the demons and goes into the house and leaves like nothing happened to him.
another thing. the scan implies that demon blood gives regen by default "if i cut this out, You wont Recover, no matter how much demon blood you have" which is consistently shown to be the case.
The fire spider died to getting impaled by a statue and never regenerated, so.....
considering that the phantom didnt even get out of the statue to get a chance to regenerate in the first place thats not a very good argument
Demons don't die because of something they can regenerate. Your argument is like saying if you leave your sword in Dante's heart he cannot regenerate. Which we know ain't true.
pretty sure he died because of the pummeling that dante gave him not because he got impaled by a statue.
It didn't even have wounds from dante, come on that's throwing headcanon on a whole new level. The spider gets impaled, it turns to lava. That's as obvious as one can make it.
Credo was hurt when he was in demon form. And he wasn't even killed by Dante so....no negation there.
It kind of does, although artificial they still are demons. Have demonic power, demonic forms etc. And what about savior who was compiled of thousands of demons?
Headcanon, the spider only died after it was impaled, you need some ridiculous levels of "my opinion is the only correct one" to even argue that.
That's if you assume Sanctus could even use it's powers. Also why would Yamato be the one with regen negation instead of Vergil? You're just slapping power wherever you want.
yes head canon, because of course a statue could hurt & kill a 7-B demon by itself (7-B statue confirmed) and there was never a case where demons randomly die after fighting dante
at least his skin and probably his head are not even organic not sure what earl is even arguing there
Not with Stamina. Just after taking damage continuously during a fight. Because there are several scenes where their wounds do not heal with even the characters themselves mentioning such a thing.
The savior was stated to be built off of demons melded together.
We do have some regen neg feat, like in the novel where Chen breaks dante's arm into two parts, and dante fighted till the end with two broken arms, and collapsed because of exhaustion, and of course he regenerated back, but Chen definily did neg dante's regen.
Dante regen isnt impressive when he isnt powerfull, even after the final fight wih Gilver he still didnt recover entirely yet, like Gilver at this point broke Dante's leg, thighs and more, if Gilver destroyed is heart, Dante would die.
Not lying here, this feat either is true or just absorption to be true. Nero also did lost his weapons there and only having yamato that as launched to him by dante. Considering how Yamato interacts with Nero, and Nero on the novel had to use some magic knife (which he does create when he have Yamato), to create some space and grab yamato to leave from Savior's heart. You can check the cutscene (time stamp: 18:50).
