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I heard an argument that the Keysword is only 4D and can't affect a supposedly 6D Silver, does that have any truth to it?
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Death battle doesn't use Higher Dimensional Things last time I saw, Silver here is only 5-D and physically exists in 3-D so the hax can still affect him as long as he has no resistenceI heard an argument that the Keysword is only 4D and can't affect a supposedly 6D Silver, does that have any truth to it?
Can't the keysword just bypass resistances? Even if Silver was immune, then the keysword could just sorta say noDeath battle doesn't use Higher Dimensional Things last time I saw, Silver here is only 5-D and physically exists in 3-D so the hax can still affect him as long as he has no resistence
In Wally Vs Sonic DB had the speedforce at 6D likely far higher while the chaos force was 5D, it honestly depends on A) DB possibly compositing Xenoverse with Heroes and B) how they interpret the cosmology.I heard an argument that the Keysword is only 4D and can't affect a supposedly 6D Silver, does that have any truth to it?
That's a NLF.Can't the keysword just bypass resistances? Even if Silver was immune, then the keysword could just sorta say no
I was talking DB, like how will they interpret this ability?That's a NLF.
I was talking DB, like how will they interpret this ability?
Ahem...Is the Keysword only 4D btw?
^Here's your answer, I already commented it.In Wally Vs Sonic DB had the speedforce at 6D likely far higher while the chaos force was 5D, it honestly depends on A) DB possibly compositing Xenoverse with Heroes and B) how they interpret the cosmology.
Just had a category 5 bruh moment sorry
He can bend spoonsWhat are Silver Key Haxes?
"Homing shots"He can bend spoons
Homing spoons"Homing shots"
Payback at its finest
The Keysword can fly through space time to reach its user, that shit ain't getting taken out of the equationXeno Trunks: How truly foolish- huh?
Archie Silver: (crushes Trunks' device and took away the Keysword) Sorry. Were those important?
What are Silver Key Haxes?
The way 4Channers talk can be pretty goddamn funny when they're not being bigots tbhand its a good one
Honestly I think Black v Thawne but at a higher scale is probably the way to go for this one. Have the crazy time travelling shenanigans to change the locale the fight takes place in, have some planetary-stellar destruction and it should be good honestly.My Thoughts on Xeno Trunks vs Archie Silver:
Chad did say there was going to be Bonkers MU and the crew mentioned back they wanted to use Heroes/Xeno stuff so i guess Trunks vs Silver was the best way to do but their OP Variants
Overall i can't blame them There's not much u can do with Canon Trunks beyond he Scale to the BOG Feat and some shit with the spirit sword in his arc
and Silver has **** all to use in material outside 06 and Rivals. This MU allows alot more for Animation and Debate in a sense is a lot more unique than Archie vs Wally given it AU vs AU
Debate: Far more debatable, both characters are sitting at Multi+ and immeasurable speed Ultraguy already confirmed in the QnA for Black vs Thawne they have Xeno characters at Multi and immeasurable, and we know they have Archie at Multi as well.
Cosmology wise Archie probably has the edge, but they'll make it go down to abilities going by how they treated the last two Marvel vs Dc fights
Expectations: It be no different than usual I'm hoping it's an 8/10 at the bar minimum like with most episodes this season but i feel we're long overdue for a 9/10 or 10/10 episode this season and if Trunks vs Silver is the first then I'll be happy as hell.
Dragon Ball has been strongly consistent in quality especially with last few couple of fights and The last two sonic fights were solid in animation so it should be due for a good fight
what i want from this fight is the following
No. This is not at Gioker and Kiradachi level.Nah, Marie vs Weather Report is kinda more infamous if anything. People just look at it as another Josona MU
Oh there are also Archie Knuckles vs Juggernaut, Mogol vs Vandal Savage, Sally Acorn vs... whoever thrown against her.The way 4Channers talk can be pretty goddamn funny when they're not being bigots tbh
Honestly I think Black v Thawne but at a higher scale is probably the way to go for this one. Have the crazy time travelling shenanigans to change the locale the fight takes place in, have some planetary-stellar destruction and it should be good honestly.
Just be sure to actually utilize the crazy shit Archie and Xeno bring to the table. They already fumbled the bag on using the crazy potential Archie has once, if they do it a second time I'll be fuming
Two rocks with one season.Death Battle has killed the Rock twice now, first Hercules, now Black Adam
Aside from the obvious answer in his Telekinesis and the Paralysis it can enduce, alongside Time Travel, he has attack reflection that he can use against characters even more powerful then himself, such as when he fought Enerjak in his base form and overpowered him using his own attacks, everything netted by Super Forms and Chaos Energy Manipulation (with the exception of abilities given to Chaos Force Deities), this gives him abilities such as reality manipulation, subjective reality, causality manipulation, concept manipulation, BFR, time manipulation, space-time manipulation, higher dimensional manipulation, low Godly regeneration, matter manipulation, existence erasure, the chaos energy wish powers, law manipulation, memory manipulation, soul manipulation (removal of souls), mind/memory manipulation, age manipulation, forcefield creation.What are Silver Key Haxes?
Archie Knux is probably the last appearance of Archie on DB I'd think, and they definitely have a lot they could showcase with Knux there. I just don't want them to fumble Silver's potential like they did Sonic's.Oh there are also Archie Knuckles vs Juggernaut, Mogol vs Vandal Savage, Sally Acorn vs... whoever thrown against her.
Oh, Axiom already beat me to it, oops LOL
They do lol, its very much so a case of coming down to that one single ability or who could generally outlast/overwhelm the other first. Basically anything Trunks has Silver also has.They basically seem to just resist like 99% of each others arsenal. Like it's gonna come down the wire.
brah i remember when frickin sanicspood said on someone's profile that "we got other evidences that could spell out 5d dbh".
and we never heard that shit in months
So the Keysword can travel through space time and dimensions to reach its user, and Trunks himself has flown through space time before in his own accord. Just checked some profiles. I don't see how it's gonna get taken out of the fight due to Time Power resistances to reality and BFRThey do lol, its very much so a case of coming down to that one single ability or who could generally outlast/overwhelm the other first. Basically anything Trunks has Silver also has.
Everything aside I lean towards Silver, he should have an AP advantage via scaling to a higher cosmology, something that even Trunks' scaling chain and power boosts shouldn't catch up to, and all the abilities he has would wear on Trunks overtime and would counter whatever Trunks throws at him.
The big things really are just Trunks' probability manip, which theoretically Silver could use his concept, law, or causality manip to circumnavigate potentially, and Trunks' Keysword, which is a genuine problem for Silver since if it connects it would bypass his super form's durability, regeneration & immortalities. But I don't see any reason he couldn't use his telekinesis/reality manip/BFR to remove the sword from the equation, especially since, as Axiom said, Silver has seen a sword with similar capabilities. Not to mention Trunks' time travel is relegated to a specific device from what I can find (correct me if I'm wrong) and there should be nothing preventing Silver from taking Trunks' time travel out of the equation by either stealing his time traveling device with telekinesis or ******* with its functions via the technology manipulation/corruption that Chaos Energy can access, or outright crystallize it to be non-functional, something Chaos Energy users have done before to make weapons/non-organic items useless.
Ah, if the sword itself is resistant to BFR, than I guess that's a moot point. I wonder though, how would it fare if it was sent to the Zone of Silence?So the Keysword can travel through space time and dimensions to reach its user, and Trunks himself has flown through space time before in his own accord. Just checked some profiles. I don't see how it's gonna get taken out of the fight due to Time Power resistances to reality and BFR
They do lol, its very much so a case of coming down to that one single ability or who could generally outlast/overwhelm the other first. Basically anything Trunks has Silver also has.
Everything aside I lean towards Silver, he should have an AP advantage via scaling to a higher cosmology, something that even Trunks' scaling chain and power boosts shouldn't catch up to, and all the abilities he has would wear on Trunks overtime and would counter whatever Trunks throws at him.
The big things really are just Trunks' probability manip, which theoretically Silver could use his concept, law, or causality manip to circumnavigate potentially, and Trunks' Keysword, which is a genuine problem for Silver since if it connects it would bypass his super form's durability, regeneration & immortalities. But I don't see any reason he couldn't use his telekinesis/reality manip/BFR to remove the sword from the equation, especially since, as Axiom said, Silver has seen a sword with similar capabilities. Not to mention Trunks' time travel is relegated to a specific device from what I can find (correct me if I'm wrong) and there should be nothing preventing Silver from taking Trunks' time travel out of the equation by either stealing his time traveling device with telekinesis or ******* with its functions via the technology manipulation/corruption that Chaos Energy can access, or outright transmutate & crystallize it to be non-functional, something Chaos Energy users have done before to make weapons/non-organic items useless.
Don't know what that is, but I don't think Silver has dealt with anything quite as strong as the Keysword, which has way more more stuff than the Acorn sword. I'm still super torn on thisAh, if the sword itself is resistant to BFR, than I guess that's a moot point. I wonder though, how would it fare if it was sent to the Zone of Silence?
YEAH that matchup would be nightmarish in terms of toxicity.I thank God this ***** Archie Sonic vs Xeno Goku from happening
Would've been far worse in toxicity
they would gotta turn off the comments lmaoYEAH that matchup would be nightmarish in terms of toxicity.
Not to say it couldn't still happen considering its both of those variant's most popular matchup, though...