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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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JoshDoshMosh said:
Wait we're not allowed to say *****? Also why is she one?
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Rhea is basically the primary antagonist of FE3H. And she is actually a tragic character that is shaped to what she is.
1. Rhea appears as a welcoming mother but is a tyrant on the inside, and needles to say she can be very manipulative.
2. She rewrote Fódlan's history to help her influence the nation "with the desire to maintain peace".
3. Thanks to her past experience with Nemesis, she has little hope on mankind and deem her Church superior until she met Byleth.
4. In fact Rhea betrays Byleth because she believes Byleth sparing Edelgard from death is a betrayal against herself. But on the standpoint of Byleth, Rhea is the betrayer and the person to be described with swearwords and slurs.
In fact Rhea would become less evil depending on the actions of Byleth.
5. Rhea is "rhea"-lly hot and has several assets that makes her a recurring character in fan porns.
Okay it is more a pun on her signature move which actually have a pronunciation similar to a slur.

Since it appears more appropriate to just skip this pun I am refraining from using it again for now.
 
Deathbattle brought up how similar Asta is to luffy for wanting to be the wizard emporer.
But didn't bring up that asta looks like he's straight up using armament haki. Just thought that was interesting.
Man this ep had some bad jokes...
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Oleggator said:
She also could use mind hax (at least potentially) Gojo.
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She can't actually, Makima's abilities only works on people she's sees as below herself, seeing as Gojo's power even as a new born was able to disturb the balance of the world by just existing Makima would easily consider him as a threat and as such not able to control him.
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Oleggator said:
She technically is faster and not so far in strength
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Doesn't really matter if she can't hit Gojo due to passive abilities.
Oleggator said:
Makima doing the stuff with brain via biological manipulation can also work
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Makima only shown biological manipulation twice, once in a very veige scene on a random goon and agien as an accessory. There isn't really any evidence that she can use it against someone like Gojo or that Makima would even use it in a fight.
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and she's generally more serious and experienced than Gojo.
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She's more tactical, I'll give you that.
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It's like really close fight.
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It's not.
 
Tots_Real said:
She can't actually, Makima's abilities only works on people she's sees as below herself, seeing as Gojo's power even as a new born was able to disturb the balance of the world by just existing Makima would easily consider him as a threat and as such not able to control him.
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To be fair outside of narrative perspective (which is a reasoning for Gojo to resist mind hax in a first place) it's still a viable option.
Tots_Real said:
Doesn't really matter if she can't hit Gojo due to passive abilities.
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Does matter since she can abuse her hax from that more often and eventually find one that bypasses the infinity. Neither will die from Gojo's hands in quick succession.
Tots_Real said:
Makima only shown biological manipulation twice, once in a very veige scene on a random goon and agien as an accessory. There isn't really any evidence that she can use it against someone like Gojo or that Makima would even use it in a fight.
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Twice seems enough. At least from DB's perspective it seems like something DB would use for her and considering the fact she's faster she can eventually use it, plus nothing implies she can't do that on someone like Gojo.
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It's not.
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It is.
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
Whats the stats for both? Also what connections do they have?
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And connections:
Two authority figures who brought in a young boy who had fused with a demonic entity and trained them as part of a force that hunts those demonic entities. Both are the strongest in their organization and they're very presence affects society itself. Both are basically known for being hax gods. Both also have an important goal to create a better world & sees the main protagonist as their answers. The difference comes down to their methods. Gojo is very much against the setup society and kind of sees Yuji as the answer Makima sees Denji in a way as the answer, but rather the beast in him, that being the Chainsaw Devil.
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With Pokemon SV having been out for a couple of weeks (and the jokes about Paldea secretly being Aionios), I have had this DBX idea sitting in the back of my mind for a little while now:

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Teach/Oleg (XC3) vs Hassel (Pokemon SV)

'Dragon'-trope Teachers loosely related to outgroups of varying consequence (Teach once being under Moebius before becoming a 7th party member, and Hassel being part of Paldea's Elite Four (one you can only challenge once)). Both also have acquaintances that are aware of their pasts in similar ways (Oleg being the alias Avenger calls Teach in his Ascension Quest, which turns out to be true when Colony Chi was around, while Hassel is a relative of various Dragon Tamers proven between Academy classes, and may or may not have been asked to return to meet a terminally ill dad).
Added Bonus: as a Corollary to the above adversarial relationships between these characters, Teach is implied to have been known by Ashera before Colony Chi shut down (as said in various sidequests), and Hassel is stated to be childhood friends with Brassius (Paldea's Grass gym leader), and is the inspiration between 'Surrendering Sunflora' outside his Gym.
 
Oleggator said:
To be fair outside of narrative perspective (which is a reasoning for Gojo to resist mind hax in a first place) it's still a viable option.
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That's not a narrative perspective though, it's literal. When Gojo was born his raw power was so great that he inadvertently caused curses to get stronger. It was a literal tangible effect not some metaphor.

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Oleggator said:
Does matter since she can abuse her hax from that more often and eventually find one that bypasses the infinity. Neither will die from Gojo's hands in quick succession.
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The thing is that most haxs she's shown would not be able to actually harm him, the only ones that might are her mind hax (which stated above would not work) and the vauge biology manipulation which she never actually uses it in an actual fight and we have such little evidence that we don't know how it would work and the fact she doesn't use it in an actual important fight like agienst the Gun Devil or Chainsaw Devil might imply something.
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It is.
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It's not
 
Chainsaw Devil is literally the one devil she idolizes for his power to remove bad things from existance permanently, while Gun Devil was 500km away from the fight, prompting her to go for a long distance summon, so i don't think her not using mind manip on them are good examples.

Best i can think of is her not using mind manip on the primordial devil of darkness, wich also hingers on headcanon due to vagueness. It could be speculated she didn't because 1. She sees primordial devils as superiors due to their power and hierarchy in hell (tbh we don't even know how the 4 horsemen scale to them.) 2. She didn't use it cause PIS 3. She didn't use it cause it's not something she opens with. 4. She had no reason to reveal that power to other characters at that point.

Not to mention characters don't get prior info of eachother in DB, and other than some vague Clairvoyance Makima has no way of knowing how big of a deal Gojo is.
 
Yuji wins against Denji regardless.
If it's just Yuji vs Denji (without Pochita and Sukuna) Yuji AP stomps and wins.

If it's Yuji/Sukuna vs Denji/Chainsaw Devil(Pochita) then Sukuna also wins.

While Pochita has type 4 immortality the fact he had to flee from his fight vs the 4 horsemen while in a near death state implies he can't keep ressurecting himself forever (or that one of them has an ability capable of putting him down for good, but that requires more assumptions.) ,then, if we assume his type 2 concept erasure would work on curses like it does on devils eating Sukuna is still easier said than done, Pochita doesn't even have the AP to chop him and how Pochita's ability works is vague as hell (does he have to eat the entire devil at once? just part of it's meat? Will the parts eaten be erased and stop regenerating or does it only takes effect once it's fully eaten?). At best you could say Pochita takes the speed advantage here, Sukuna has everything else.
 
Not to mention in a fight where both start at base Sukuna can come out whenever he needs/wants while Pochita needed Denji to suffer a lot of psychological abuse in order to break his contract with him, wich is not something he'd have acess to outside of very specific circumstances.
 
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