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I think you confused it with Homura vs Zoom, Jason usually pushed that one really hard, not even remembering him mentioning RF vs Terumi even once
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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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He pushed Homura as well, but I do recall him pushing Terumi as well. Either way, my point should hopefully have gotten across.
Alucard vs D likely isn't happening at all either, but its got better odds than what he's pushed in the past.
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Quickly, we need to find another one Jason posted alot so we can have "4 horsemen of MUs that Jason will keep pushing no matter what"
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I do not push Yuuki Terumi vs Reverse-Flash.
I only push Yuuki Terumi vs Thaal Sinestro. I am not the only one pushing that Terumi vs Sinestro thing.
You are mistaking someone else.
Meanwhile August 7th 2020 Death Battle Cast just have Alucard vs D. So this MU has already been on the radar of the crew.
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Isn’t the DC multiverse just far bigger than anything in Xenoverse? Like the reason Wally beat sonic is literally because DC cosmology is a lot bigger than Archies. So like pre crisis Superman just one shots
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Guess I got Reverse-Flash a little mixed up then. Either way, they're both still MUs that are highly unlikely to happen. Best bet is Alucard vs D, but even that has low odds too.
Then again, seeing as UltraGuy is here, maybe you could try to make your case to him, and hope that he brings it back to the death battle crew, and they like the idea enough to run with it for next year's Halloween episode, or something.
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I say Alucard vs D isn't that low
It was a CDB and it should do decently well
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Pucca vs Arale could be a fun Dragon Ball/Dr. Slump episode
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Does death battle still use Saiyan Beyond God? Reallly my main gripe with DB in deathbattle, to the point of salt.
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Hopefully you can get uni+ and MFTL+ in the next ep, you had some good stuff in your Game Silver blog.
I doubt any of the multiversal Maginaryworld arguments will get accepted by the rest of the team tho /:
Ultra's blog had them at Immeasurable, and he said in the blog that AT THE TIME they weren't comfortable with immeasurable, but that might have changed since. The episode would've been in production a long while ago.
Game Bowser vs Game Eggman is the debate. Paper Mario and Archie Sonic should be excluded from the debate.
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I think what Wally scaled to gave him a slight edge, not a massive one. DCs cosmology is absolutely bigger than Archie's but what Wally scales to apparently just gave him a slight edge, not a deal breaker like Trunks v Silver from what I gathered? I could be wrong tho.
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alien x do be looking like he be matching hal soon
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Pretty sure Speed Force gave him an entire dimensional tier above Archie Sonic, so that was a wash.
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I mean from what I gather it was
Xeno<Ariche’s<DC and if they did put Xeno Goku against Pre crisis supes he would just die lol
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Having a bigger cosmology isn't an instant win, and since DBH characters have AP that far outstrip their cosmology size by 100 of thousands of time due to destroying all of it being done by fodder characters, so it's not gonna be the only reason DBH loses anymore
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I feel bad bothering you about stuff since I know you're probably limited in what you can say, but me and a lot of the board have been interested in this for a while.
Is the Touhou Project on your, or any other researchers radar at all? We've been given some second hand info about some apparent stats the team might buy and possible matchups the team's thought of but it's all hearsay.
It's one of my favorite verses and I think it has a lot of potential for some really fun matchups, some potentially really high scale ones, and it has some more popular verses you could pair it with for more attention.
MUs liks like:
Marisa Kirisame vs Yuffie Kirsaragi (I commissioned a Vs Track from Therewolf for this, and wrote an entire blog on bloggr about its connections, research, stats, their stories, etc etc, was a huge effort and im proud of it ( : )
Kasen Ibaraki vs Fleetway Sonic (working on a blog for this and trying to commission a track for it as well. Also trying to revamp the STC verse as a whole on VSBW rn)
Reimu Hakurei vs Sailor Mars / Arle Nadja
Sakuya Izayoi vs Hit / Bayonetta / Axl Low / Dave Strider (she has a lot of MUs)
Yukari Yakumo vs Altair
Flandre Scarlet vs Marx,
Remilia Scarlet vs Rachel Alucard
Yuuma Toutetsu vs Kirby
Just a lot of cool MUs with a lot of different fun scaling and feats to talk about.
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Ahhhh shit really? I mean, tbf, this recent episode makes it seem like they view Archie as REALLY HIGH into 5D, potentially bordering on 6D. I'm pretty sure Wally is 6D, so it might be even closer now than we thought.
Oh yeah undeniably. It'd still be closer than Post Crisis Supes vs Super Goku tho
No matter how many multipliers you stack on top of a cosmological destruction, it will not outstrip a larger cosmology being destroyed. No matter how many multipliers or scaling chains you stack on 5D, it will not become 6D, for instance.
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what about multipliers on uni+ to get to low multi?
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YOU FORGOR ALUCARD!
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I know......? My point is that DBH is pretty high into 2A..... you just debunked an argument I didn't make.
Bruh moment
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Basically Dragon Ball's Multiverse might be x*y = Infinity, while in Sonic's Multiverse X*Y*Z = Infinity
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Funny thing is Wally being 6D is actually the low to mid end for him, since the Speed-force is beyond The Bleed depending on which DC author you believe, Wally scales anywhere between and including to Low 1-C upto 1-A.
DB has different uni standards than us and relies on volume scaling e.g:
*On VSBW if a character is 1000x above Low 2-C, they'll simply be 1000x stronger than baseline Low 2-C.
*On DB if a character is 1000× above Low 2-C, DB treats them as being able to destroy/significantly affect 1000 universes (volume scaling) thus are treated as multiverse level (or baseline 2-B on VSBW).
Also keep in mind DB treats 3-A and Low 2-C as the same tier iirc.
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The point is that a lot of verses (like DC) will still shit on DBH due to greater cosmological scope, it doesn't matter how high into 2A they can get, Tier 1 is just that much more impressive.
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Do u really want it to become a DB and have to watch one of them kill the other tho?
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It's not like they survive in their likelier options, so **** it
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Again......... I know. I never even brought up other verses, my og point was about how high into 2A Heros could be. Thats it. Bruh moment 2: electric bogaloo
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Hey what do you guys think of Ashtar from Ninja Gaiden or Fiamma from Railgun vs Kun Lan from Killer 7?
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These are some of my dream matchups, hoping 1 gets met by this season, the other one that's not listed here is a composite historical samurai vs composite historical knight
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This list is based. Also what made you choose the original Superman over Man of Steel Superman?
These are some of my dream matchups, hoping 1 gets met by this season, the other one that's not listed here is a composite historical samurai vs composite historical knight
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oh i know but in general, should multipliers actually be used
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i think the campy vibe of reeves superman is the most famous version of the live action adaptation and the other is the most infamous, also i think tonally they make sense together.
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So the user is the real deal and not just someone with similar name
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I hardly take the rating over Alien X seriously given the series vague nature over anything he did
It still close Wally just Still edges out Archie Sonic according to them
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Sakuya should survive all of her likelier options besides maybe Devil Homura, tho?
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Sakuya vs Hit boils down to what they buy for Speed and how far in the Uni Scale she sits in comparison to Dragon Ball
She stomps Base Homura into the ground but Devil Homura more or less murders her
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For Sakuya, of you don't buy infinite uni, I think there's some millions stuff (over 8 million times uni, Tenshi shaking Heaven) and some supposed billions times stuff (Doremy Dream Creation & Destruction) she could scale to that should outclass Hit, but I'm not sure on that last one. @Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara ?
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Don't they not buy multi+, higher dimensional Madoka/Homura tho? Sakuya should still kill her if they don't.
If they do buy it tho, while Sakuya could be argued to have higher AP and resist most of her haxx, she just wouldn't be able to affect Homura due to her higher dimensional existence and her existing outside of reality or smthn.
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Zolomon vs Sakuya
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I really doubt that DB will buy poopshitterlion FTL Sakuya and have her beat Hit with that
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