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I like the sprite animation/3D animation and some of the post analysis to refresh or have an idea of the fight.
That guy is missing all the fun of it xd
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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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That guy is missing all the fun of it xd
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Well now that helps
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If that's the case I don't wanna see Mark vs Gohan, that's like the least fun match I can think of
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They could literally do Goku vs Saitama and break records for a quick view job, I think they truly do mean it tbh
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keep in mind though, just because they don't care, doesn't mean RT execs don't
I think Ben said that because he knows a Columbo episode would probably flop, but he wouldn't care because they would have fun doing it
I think Ben said that because he knows a Columbo episode would probably flop, but he wouldn't care because they would have fun doing it
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Would this generate the same salt lvls as G V S ?
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Probably. Opm/Saitama hardcores are scary
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Hmm~ UltraGuy pulling the uno reverso on the Saiyans solo Marvel somehow forgot 
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Anos vs Rimuru Death Battle oh no oh no oh no
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Its no use....Farmer with Shotgun negsHmm~ UltraGuy pulling the uno reverso on the Saiyans solo Marvel somehow forgot
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They also talked about this old AVGN video.
NINJA BASEBALL BATMAN
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The one who's a skeleton and wears a robe.
For real isn't Grim kind of a glass canon? Like IIRC his scythe gives him a lot of power but isn't as durable
For real isn't Grim kind of a glass canon? Like IIRC his scythe gives him a lot of power but isn't as durable
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Not saying it's a definite possibility, but just like you were saying there's no way he would know about it, which we have no way of knowing, I was saying he COULD know about it, as there's not really any reason to assume he wouldn't be aware of Tails or Knuckles having a Super Form
It still doesn't change the fact he could make a Super Duplicate of himself. Or Sonic. Or Shadow. Because he HAS seen their Super Forms.
This entire argument is extremely funny and frankly all of it is terrible.
1. There's a pretty vast difference in the utilization of Chaos Emeralds and the Dragon Balls when it comes to characters' power levels, the DBs don't really net an explicit power boost or lock an entire form behind them like the CEs do. Not to mention, utilizing the Dragon Balls mid fight is incredibly inconvenient. Silver is not going to sit around and just allow for Trunks to make a wish, especially not with the speed gap. (plus you could probably argue Silver could take out/remove Shenron from the fight as well.
2. Even if he did get off a Wish for say, immortality, Silver could still kill him, considering that other Chaos Force users such as Mogul have been able to kill immortal beings such as The Ancient Walkers with Chaos Magic before, and even if he theoretically couldn't do so, he has methods of sealing as well. If he called in other Time Patrollers? For one, that's making this fight increasingly less and less Silver vs Trunks, but okay, Silver can, as stated above, make a super duplicate of himself, or Sonic, or Shadow, and potentially another super form to help him combat other Time Patrollers. He's also still significantly stronger and faster than every Time Patroller there is.
3. Ian saying he thinks Silver would lose, is, AS HE HAS ADMITTED HIMSELF, an opinion, and he does not want people using this statement in arguments for Trunks vs Silver. Ian saying that the events of 06 is canon, is more than an opinion, it's a fact supported by the various Encyclopedias, the Comic itself, and various supplemental media. Ian, the writer of Archie, making a statement about the canonicity of something in the Archie Sonic universe, WHILE he's writing the comic is a reliable statement, while Ian making an opinionated post that he thinks Trunks would win WHILE he is no longer working on the comic, before later acknowledging that his mindset is very different than DBs', is not a reliable statement when it comes to Vs Debating or power-scaling.
4. If you want to argue that Silver has never directly used the Emeralds himself, he was one of the people who helped collecting them in 06 in the first place, so no, he does have experience with them.
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@Kirbonic_Pikmin it doesn't help the argument either when immortality with the DBs isn't exactly OP enough to prevent Silver from like vaporizing him but I could be wrong
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I'm not exactly familiar with DBs Immortality, but considering Chaos Magic has killed those with Type 1 & 5 immortality before, it likely wouldn't save Trunks, no.
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Super Dragon Balls likely give Mid Godly and Immortality 1 to 4 by looking at the dbh zamasu page.
Idk what the regular ones do , probably garlic jr stuff which is way less impressive
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@Kirbonic_Pikmin I won't respond to the entirety of your post as most of that I do actually agree with you, getting the wrong idea was wondering you'll thoughts on this users take but I'll just reiterate my perspective about the Silver ability here. Whilst I do think it's theoretically possible that Silver could accomplish this given his training with mammoth mogul in practicality speaking I don't think he would be able to to least in mid-combat.
It's not far fetched to say that he ain't quite a peer to Sonic and Shadow and using "I was trained by more" argument feels like grasping at straws, it'd be different if he ACTUALLY showed doing it on panel or at least a statement implying he absolutely could.
End of the day one fact is certain we just don't know the full results of his training with his mentor, the ability requires super form w/ all chaos emeralds which he didn't have with him. Sonic is the main protagonist in all iterations that bends fate to his will, a born prodigy who's even own speed surpasses everyones in his own series.
The arguments for Silver doing that were never brought up in the g1 blog or the DB as his advantages, Trunk's just much more straightforward and easier to achieve plus it distincts him from Silver.
edit; the stats only given by DB in the ep, which to be honest I don't think is THAT big of a gap of let's say DIO and Alucard or Omni-man and Homelander. The very fact Wiz/Ben said that it's questionable if super silver could physically match SS/SSG Trunks is proof in the pudding.
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Zamasu made himself immortal and couldn't be killed by conventional means until Zeno erased him from all infinite timelines. Not sure if that would be enough though.
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Yeah Iol
This makes more sense
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Silver quite literally is a peer to Sonic and Shadow, they were all involved with the defeat of Solaris, a being that was going to destroy the entire Archie cosmology. He's definitely comparable to Sonic and Shadow. Once again, he was able to hang in combat against Dark Enerjak, an entity that defeated Super Sonic, in his base form. He is definitely comparable to those two and he received far more formal training by the literal creator of the Chaos Magic than Sonic did, it's not really grasping at straws.
Shadow is an innate natural when it comes to the manipulation of Chaos Energy, so perhaps him not being on par with Shadow is arguable, but he's absolutely at least comparable to them. Regardless in this episode Silver is giving a Super Form with all 7 Chaos Emeralds.
Also Silver being able to do this is quite literally brought up in the Silver vs Trunks QnA, which was made by the literal researcher for the episode itself. I didn't just pull this out of my ass, it was something that was brought into consideration on the episode itself.
The episode itself brought up the fact that Silver receiving training from Mogul thus giving him a great control over Chaos Magic as a big factor in his favor. They literally mention Mega Man being to rewrite his entire infinite multiverse after only learning he could use chaos magic a couple minutes ago. Creating a duplicate of someone when you can rewrite the entire infinite 5D+ multiverse doesn't seem very far of a stretch.
Zeno erased him from infinite timelines in the DB universe, Silver scales to someone that could rewrite the infinite timelines of a 5D+ multiverse, that wouldn't cut it.
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That is not a good sign for all of us.
Are there more members than the duo? For Fuchs sake I look forward towards Samurai Pizza Cats vs SWAT Kats
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Archie Knuckles vs Juggernaut
Eggman vs Bowser / Eggman vs Wily 2
Fleetway Sonic vs Kasen Ibaraki (or whatever other opponent you prefer for Fleetway)
Potentially Sonic vs Mario 3 if they really wanna do that, but I think they probably wanna do Mario vs Kirby over it.
Blaze the Cat, Archie Tails, and Scourge are also viable characters who could fight someone, it's just a matter of choosing an opponent.
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For Wally it just seems to be a case of DC Cosmology being bigger, apparently you can scale him to 6D compared to 5D+ for Sonic. There's probably still some arguments for Archie Sonic winning through haxx and lucky hits, they did mention that MU was like a 51/49 type deal iirc. I'm a little iffy on their arguments about Wally being able to phase through Sonic's wish powers/reality manip/chaos magic though, but I'd need to double check their reasoning.
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Based Swan
Those MU are MID
No shit
1. I think Columbo would do decently well then again what exactly constitute as a flop to Death Battle
2. The view seem like a "we personally don't care" which i can understand and frankly cant blame them but obviously they do have to put money in the table
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Apparently some folks wanna feed Garou to Godspeed? 
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They seem to not be phased about the potential of like, one matchup underperforming comparatively in a season. Especially when they have the chance of other matchups doing particularly well to make up for one potentially lagging behind.
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They view both still equal in AP just Wally edges out in by a slim Margin from what a guy who talked to them said
Tbf it's probably from a personal standpoint
The crew wants to have more fun then do x cause it's pop a good number
Tho like Burger said RT executives think otherwise and the crew still view shit as a business
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DBM reddit momentApparently some folks wanna feed Garou to Godspeed?
This I think means more to their viewpoint given some episodes from before being meh in terms of views as long most outweigh the weaker viewed ones
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Cosmic Garou was a mistakeApparently some folks wanna feed Garou to Godspeed?
You can't tell me otherwise
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It be like that
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i think Mario vs Kirby or any fight that's possible in Smash should be avoided. The "i could just play smash" is what probably suppressed Link vs Cloud 2 numbers
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hmm not seeing anything
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I also don't even like that matchup period but they seem interested in doing it and it's relatively popular.
Link vs Cloud also seems to generally be a matchup that died out over the years, a decade can make a pretty big difference in an MU's popularity.
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I fixed it didn't know you had to use the special link thing
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Cloud vs Link isn't that even that good of a matchup in itself, it's more of a rivalry that comes as an extension of Ocarina of Time vs Final Fantasy VII debate. But they barely have any connections beside coming from games considered landmarks of their time at around the same time.
If anything Cloud and Link are so opposite of each other in almost every sense that it's kind of interesting.
With the Zelda and FF series getting new entries after those two and the passing years, fans had other stuff to talk about and the rivalry fizzled out as well.
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