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Yeah, that's just Wukong
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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Lemme put it like this: Trunks can physically overpower Silver, but the hedgehog is able to take down the demisaiyan with psychokinesis and his Super Form that has more energy and potency than what Trunks can physically do
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Again, depends on what the team will believe
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Knives Millions vs any Archie villains.
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Tbf, Son Goku it's the japanese spelling of Sun Wukong. But yeah, it's still funny to hear/read it as Goku instead of Wukong.
Also, if SMT isn't 1-A where would it place?
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Well I did understand that the psychokinesis would help redirect Trunks' attacks but I didn't get the Super part.
But I think I can see what you're saying
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If you ask me... this doesn't sound like flip-flopping, rather they were trying to be respectful to Trunks' loss and make it sound it was closer it actually was according to their veredict? This is just a personal hunch, nothing else, but... given this IS a big matchup so they were to expect controversy, so they thought its better to not poison the well by bluntly saying that they considered that Silver stomped.
I could be completely wrong though =P
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Interesting, though I'm not overtly familiar with Trigun so I don't know what Knives Millions' personality is like and what dynamic he could have against individuals like Enerjak or Mammoth Mogul as examples.
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@TartaChocholate kinda like how they said Saitama was one of the strongest DB contestants on the show? Makes sense but it's still weird
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It’s possible they can just be made Multi+ or maybe just some vague dimensional stuff
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And they hyped that to be "eating like kings" especially by wasting 3D on it, really only RWBY fans i seen excited, two of them that i watch their reaction at times that is, other then thatBlake vs Mikasa ? Final Worthy ?
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Yeah it’s weird, because it kinda seems Atlas a lot of the time will go out of their way to not call him Sun Wukong
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Had to throw in a cushion against the Saitama fanboys.
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The Axiom was actually Zeno all along!
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Human extinction, universal control and overall extreme sadism.
Base Vash stat and hax stomps tbh. Alucard wouldn't be able to tag him at all due to the speed and skill gap, although Vash wouldn't be able to kill him unless he resorts to his hax which he will do but only in extreme circumstances.
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And the fact Lucario boned her the wrong way as the ender
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Well, they are a japanese vidya developers, they're just used to calling him Goku and not Wukong
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I mean I agree, it's just I didn't know it was that much of a stomp
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U,me and 98% of Death Battle fans
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Didn't sonic once cross over with them?
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Yeah, so did Ban, Guts, Dante, Bayo, and Motoko
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... Why don't they have profiles.
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Come again?
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Yep, Guts with the outerversal scaling
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Tbf they always Composite the manga and the anime stuff. Most Dragon Ball characters tend to get advantages from the manga even tho the manga is technically a weaker verse, like Vegeta getting a whole new form and Hakai from it.
Just sticking with one source like the anime for DBS would probably be smarter tho, esp since the anime and manga contradict so much.
The debate, specifically by the episode and research team, is moreso that he'd have more knowledge on utilizing the Chaos Force than someone like say, Sonic, who received no formal training and was entirely self taught. Meanwhile Silver was trained extensively for years by the literal creator of the Chaos Force. He would have one of the best understandings of it of any character in the verse.
Since his master who trained him was able to duplicate a super form, and Sonic, a character with much less training than him, was also able to duplicate a super form, using Chaos Magic, it's very likely Silver could do the same thing. It certainly isn't the craziest thing Chaos Force users can do.
Mogul very well could have taught him about the ability to duplicate others with chaos magic, sure. Not really that far fetched when he taught him time magic lol.Ur trying to say that mogul some how taught silver to do something his chaos force merged self did to silver, a hedgehog that didn’t have a super form there, and can’t even pull off duplication with levels of chaos energy he didn’t possess
Do u hear ur self
Not to mention people who merge with the chaos force are superior to super transformations iirc, so idek how he’d have that at all and even if he DID, that’s something clearly not in character. I’m not even sure if silver knows what turbo tails or hyper knuckles even is
Silver has met both of those characters, and is a time traveler with mind reading abilities. If he hasn't seen them himself at some point he could easily learn about then eventually.
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They're being planned to be made but Megami Tensei is still going through some massive changes plus the Wiki's crossover standards may or may not be different by then, in the meantime you can enjoy this.
Don't quote me on this but SMT Guts would likely be just below SMT Dante but it's been awhile since I've last seen the crossover scaling chain.
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Isnt there SMT Sonic now too lol
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Yeah he technically solos Archie
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SMT is Shin Megami Tensei, and basically anyone even remotely relevant is Outerversal because god stuff. So if you scale to it, you're stronk.
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Well to be fair, the septillion thing is something you could find out yourself pretty easily if you go and research the verse, considering it's a major feat in the 15th game, which is an entry that has some pretty important story stuff for the verse. The only reason the septillions calc isn't around much is that:
1. We just used it as a blanket MFTL+ calc for years
2. Since we view Touhou universes as infinite in size here, that calc counts as an infinite speed calc to us instead, so the number isn't really around.
It's very likely they could find the number on their own.
They did it because DC cosmology is well known to casuals and has been discussed on the show before, and was the easiest immediate comparison they could use for casuals apparently.
Want. Iirc this site's reasoning was a Mario or Paper Mario game at one point offhandedly mentioning the Book of Plato or something, which lead to them saying that Platonic Concepts are in the verse of Mafio, which means the Void would have destroyed a 1A concept..
Completely ridiculous, and btw Platonic Concepts alone do not quantify for 1A so the argument isn't even solid in the first place.
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Kirito too
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Inb4 SC uses the statements of how the swords transcend time and the world
Let's ******* go, this is accurate now. Knew my man wasn't a fraud.
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A mobile game? Sounds like several collabs.
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Fleetway Sonic is the alternate continuity character I wanna see the most rn I'd say. But I'm generally interested in just about any alternate version character showing up personally.
This is so ******* funny they're literally mind broken.
In one of Silver's comics a character mentions and explains an 11D dimensional matrix iirc.
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God, I'm a DBZ fan so I'd normally probably be seething from inside too, but since it's Trunks who I dont care about I feel nothing lol
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