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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Derpmaster9000 said:
I'm gonna call out the unlikely wild card and predict we'll get a second DB MU this season in the second half, and it'll be the one that introduces Touhou to see how it performs.

Hit vs Sakuya.
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What about it is Cirno vs Jack Frost (Shin Megami Tensei) or Yukari Yakumo vs Altair or Dimentio or Hoopa or even Giratina

We could prefer this over Reimu Hakurei vs Yusuke Urameshi or Ichigo Kurosaki or Yoh Asakura (as 2 out of 3 among Yusuke Urameshi, Ichigo Kurosaki and Yoh Asakura fighting each other should be better matchups).

On a vs debater level we are unsure they will buy anything infinite universe level in Touhou Project because this (unlike HerKong) really decides on the speed and power level but casual Dragon Ball wanker will just say Hit time stop + Zankaiken Sakuya GG.
 
Derpmaster9000 said:
I'm gonna call out the unlikely wild card and predict we'll get a second DB MU this season in the second half, and it'll be the one that introduces Touhou to see how it performs.

Hit vs Sakuya.
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I could see them do that or Sakuya vs Homura given that's popular as well

Maybe Cirno vs Jack Frost but as @Kirbonic_Pikmin mentioned you would want to introduce one of the bigger names on the show befote using Cirno to get a better grasp on the serirs
Joycap said:
A quick question for y'all after the XC3 direct a few days ago:

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Probably wait a bit to get an answer on the party members
 
Tipper17 said:
I could see them do that or Sakuya vs Homura given that's popular as well

Maybe Cirno vs Jack Frost but as @Kirbonic_Pikmin mentioned you would want to introduce one of the bigger names on the show befote using Cirno to get a better grasp on the serirs
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By such suggestion this really shrinks down to Hit vs Sakuya Izayoi and Hoopa vs Yukari Yakumo

But yeah according to the "Trends" Hit is even less popular than Homura Akemi in comparison.
Should I try some other keywords? How can I even add more?
 


This is a versus battle music of Lyndis (Fire Emblem) vs Yasuo (League of Legends)

This is the 4th commission by hypermariosunshine. How do they make so much money (out from doing reaction videos to Nintendo Directs, unboxing videos for Fire Emblem Cipher and Pokemon TCG, FEH videos, reviews of games, and Lets Plays) and spare them from the condo mortgage payment is out of me considering Brandon Yates charges US$300 for standard length instrumental track and US$30 more for one battle track TN. And multiply that by 4 minimum - that's literally more than a one-month payment for RENTING an apartment in New York.
 
In the meantime...

Ten-Year_Tacticians_-_Taion_vs_Jin_Shirato_theme_render.png


Guess the MU
 
Joycap said:
In the meantime...

Ten-Year_Tacticians_-_Taion_vs_Jin_Shirato_theme_render.png


Guess the MU
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I know your promotion effort pal...
Taion (Xenoblade 3) vs Jin Shirato (Persona 3)
Guessed from God Google by searching the characters' names checking out the Hand Grenades from Jin and origami bird(?)/rabbit(?) drones from Taion
 
I thought I just spoke in another way how I found the answer and the effort by Joycap in encouraging us to guess/"find" the answer and appreciate their close connections, as well as what how the track cover art design is inspired from.

Well I have to sleep now ttyl.
 
I am typing something due to insomnia


Preview titles are out

Boba Fett Books it into DEATH BATTLE!
DEATH BATTLE Fight Previews
The Galaxy's most feared Mandalorian bounty hunter, and first ever DEATH BATTLE! combatant, finally makes his return!

Predator Ain't Got Time to Bleed in DEATH BATTLE!
DEATH BATTLE Fight Previews
The Predator has come from beyond the stars to catch his prey in this DEATH BATTLE!

Comment from a RT audience:

thrawn92 a minute ago
I think the Yautja's got this one. Just like with Boba's fight against Samus Aran, Pred's got the advantage in technology, even though they both may have similar amounts of experience in training and combat. Plus, I believe the Predator is stronger than the average human.


Lucariboi 10 minutes ago
It’s so cool to see Boba Fett get a modern analysis
 
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Jasonsith said:
I am typing something due to insomnia


Preview titles are out

Boba Fett Books it into DEATH BATTLE!
DEATH BATTLE Fight Previews
The Galaxy's most feared Mandalorian bounty hunter, and first ever DEATH BATTLE! combatant, finally makes his return!

Predator Ain't Got Time to Bleed in DEATH BATTLE!
DEATH BATTLE Fight Previews
The Predator has come from beyond the stars to catch his prey in this DEATH BATTLE!

Comment from a RT audience:

thrawn92 a minute ago
I think the Yautja's got this one. Just like with Boba's fight against Samus Aran, Pred's got the advantage in technology, even though they both may have similar amounts of experience in training and combat. Plus, I believe the Predator is stronger than the average human.


Lucariboi 10 minutes ago
It’s so cool to see Boba Fett get a modern analysis
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You know what? I should probably open a custom 'Death battle previews' thread on Fun & Games, much like I did for the puns thread way back when (going to have to bump that too at some point).

*should specify preview titles, and not full blown 3 minute clippets. That's a separate can of worms entirely
 
Joycap said:
I'm not far enough into 2 to contest that. 3, Makoto vacillates in my mind between Moon Level and Tier 1 (and I say that as someone who adores 3)
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The main arguments are Tatsuya scaling to Philemon and Makoto being the only protagonist to get the Univese Arcana, besides that there’s also arguments for pre end Makoto scaling to Joker through PQ2 and Tatsuya possibly having better connections to SMT than the other protags. Not very good arguments but it’s still something that could be taken into account
 
JoshDoshMosh said:
The main arguments are Tatsuya scaling to Philemon and Makoto being the only protagonist to get the Univese Arcana, besides that there’s also arguments for pre end Makoto scaling to Joker through PQ2 and Tatsuya possibly having better connections to SMT than the other protags. Not very good arguments but it’s still something that could be taken into account
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Wasn't the Universe Arcana just the World Arcana before it was re-translated (Sekai meaning the World/Universe/Society)? I take that to mean both got it, and Maruki holds Tier 1 on his own merits IMO.

PQ2 is a spinoff with questionable canonicity from what I've heard, so I choose not to take it as any kind of argument (it's what caused me to dismiss the Cognition page, actually, among half of everything else).
 
Joycap said:
Wasn't the Universe Arcana just the World Arcana before it was re-translated (Sekai meaning the World/Universe/Society)? I take that to mean both got it, and Maruki holds Tier 1 on his own merits IMO.

PQ2 is a spinoff with questionable canonicity from what I've heard, so I choose not to take it as any kind of argument (it's what caused me to dismiss the Cognition page, actually, among half of everything else).
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I think it’s confirmed canon by some of the team members I think, most of the spin-offs are canon except for strikers I think. I’ll look for the interview when I get the time
 
Jasonsith said:
What about it is Cirno vs Jack Frost (Shin Megami Tensei) or Yukari Yakumo vs Altair or Dimentio or Hoopa or even Giratina

We could prefer this over Reimu Hakurei vs Yusuke Urameshi or Ichigo Kurosaki or Yoh Asakura (as 2 out of 3 among Yusuke Urameshi, Ichigo Kurosaki and Yoh Asakura fighting each other should be better matchups).

On a vs debater level we are unsure they will buy anything infinite universe level in Touhou Project because this (unlike HerKong) really decides on the speed and power level but casual Dragon Ball wanker will just say Hit time stop + Zankaiken Sakuya GG.
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Cirno vs Jack Frost is a terrible matchup to introduce Touhou AND SMT with, using the essential fodder characters of the verse that have surprisingly complex facets of the cosmology of the series tied to the debate would be a weird way to introduce either series, and I think a Yukari match off the rip would be insane considering how complex her abilities and scaling is within the verse. They'll likely start with something more simple with a more simple scaling chain and more understandable abilities like Reimu, Sakuya, or Marisa.

Also yeah, the big factors in this MU is how they rate Touhou's speed and power. If they get something similar in speed, no matter what Hit's AP is they could argue Sakuya has all she'd need to win via massively superior haxx. She has a million ways to manipulate time to get the win, such as, but not limited to: straight up existence erasure, time rewinding, aging her opponent to death, much more potent time control overall. Or just chip away at his soul throughout the battle. As well as her ability to control the battlefiled, such as the ability to manipulate the space of the battleground to ensure she has arena control and can keep herself in an advantageous position, the continuous undodgable danmaku fire, can summon clones from alternate timelines for backup, illusions, etc etc.

God forbid they actually stat Sakuya's AP as higher than Hit's, since if they composite Super Manga & Anime like they usually do, the Manga gives Hit the weakness of his timestop just not working on those stronger than him.
 
Pokemonfan807 said:
so who do you guys predict will win boba or the predator
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Depends on what they give the predator and composite scaling,

which brings me to a major gripe about this fight, Yautja are an entire civilization, yes mainstream they are just "predator/predators" but every single Predator that has appeared on screen or in comics have had completely varying personality, skills, and sometimes even equipment. There are several clans of predators that specialize in completely different things, and each clan is separated by different classes that do different things, it's like if Boba Fett represented every single Mandalorian in all of Starwars. IMO i think Scar-Face is probably the most thematic of all of them to fight Boba Fett

Biggest question for me is if they'll approach the subject of armour, as while Beskar is the much better armour...Boba doesn't actually wear that much of it,most of his arms, hands, waist, thighs and such are completely vulnerable, so while he can easily tank blows where the beskar is, one hit in an unarmoured part likely means a missing limb with how lethal Yautja gear is and Yautja isn't dumb and will go for the weakspots, especially since his visor will tell him where to hit and what are vulnerable. They also might have some gear that counters even Beskar too, like acid stronger than Xenomorph blood

Boba's biggest advantages here, is EU scaling and a lightsaber, if a Predator has even remotely comparable stats via comic scaling, they might win more oft than not.
Heck, even without the initial stat advantage, depending on where they put the self-destruct, that could potentially kill Boba too, either as a mutual kill or even them removing the bracer and using it as a grenade.
 
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