Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[JoshDoshMosh]

As well as Wesker vs Kazuya is gaining unironically good popularity.

I wish it didn’t

 

[Jasonsith]

I wish it didn’t

really question it considering this is not even spite matchup like Omnilander

What really stops Wesker vs Kazuya is the option of Iori Yagami vs Kazuya Mishima

And, even better, people do not mind Iori vs Kazuya being Heihachi vs Geese 2 as people still want Palpatine vs Xehanort despite Palpatine vs Xehanort is just evil Yoda vs evil King Mickey.

Well actually I saw arguments for Kirito, so Neo may not win that one.

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Like to hear reason.

Someone looked up good performing Cast eps too huh

But uhh AangPlanet is not comics and its not even worst stomp in DB so whats wrong with it :V

It is not even the worst stomp, pal.

We have seen Steven Universe vs Star Butterfly, we have seen Flash vs Quicksilver, we have seen Thor vs Raiden. Oh we have just seen Omni-Man vs Homelander.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

What really stops Wesker vs Kazuya is the option of Iori Yagami vs Kazuya Mishima

But here’s the thing, no one knows who Iori is, atleast from a casuals perspective

 

[SomaKing13]

What about movie Boba Fett vs movie Predator? Does movie Predator win by versatility and nothing else?

Movie Boba and I'm assuming this includes general disney canon with the different series and such, dies super hard to a Yautja from the movies, versatility, likely stat trio as Mandalorians are "mostly human" in comparison, where as Yautja are veritable juggernauts, they should take the skill advantage as Yautja are basically born and bread to fight and hunt and live for hundreds if not thousands of years if nothing kills them, and they spend almost all of that time hunting, only thing keeping him alive is his armour really and that has very obvious exploits and considering it might not even be considered "real beskar" makes it all the more likely some well placed acid or attacks, could potentially punch right through.

 

[Jasonsith]

But here’s the thing, no one knows who Iori is, atleast from a casuals perspective

Iori Yagami is a BIG name in Asia. KOF is a big name in Asia.

Sadly Heihachi vs Geese weirdly does not get popular enough despite having the historically highest like ratio (before the like ratio gets masked from the audience)

The crew may have an illusion KOF is less popular than SU or SVTFOE.

Movie Boba and I'm assuming this includes general disney canon with the different series and such, dies super hard to a Yautja from the movies, versatility, likely stat trio as Mandalorians are "mostly human" in comparison, where as Yautja are veritable juggernauts, they should take the skill advantage as Yautja are basically born and bread to fight and hunt and live for hundreds if not thousands of years if nothing kills them, and they spend almost all of that time hunting, only thing keeping him alive is his armour really and that has very obvious exploits and considering it might not even be considered "real beskar" makes it all the more likely some well placed acid or attacks, could potentially punch right through.

No wonder Predator sweeps in the last Community Death Battle.

 

[Oleggator]

But uhh AangPlanet is not comics and its not even worst stomp in DB so whats wrong with it :V

Well specifically there are probably better MUs for Aang generally such as Alladin from Magi. Aside from that the only theme I can think of for Aang vs Captain Planet is usage of 4 elements, which is quite generic.

really question it considering this is not even spite matchup like Omnilander

What really stops Wesker vs Kazuya is the option of Iori Yagami vs Kazuya Mishima

And, even better, people do not mind Iori vs Kazuya being Heihachi vs Geese 2 as people still want Palpatine vs Xehanort despite Palpatine vs Xehanort is just evil Yoda vs evil King Mickey.

People just like Wesker vs Kazuya more, that's basically it, at some point Wesker even more popular as a character than Iori. Especially in West.

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Like to hear reason.

Well to start of, Island level Neo is questioned outside of wiki, even in DBC crew looked at it with suspicion.

And to add more, Kirito does have an arguments to be higher than island.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Someone looked up good performing Cast eps too huh

But uhh AangPlanet is not comics and its not even worst stomp in DB so whats wrong with it :V

The connections are superficial, they both have better, and it’s not just interesting lol

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Movie Boba and I'm assuming this includes general disney canon with the different series and such, dies super hard to a Yautja from the movies, versatility, likely stat trio as Mandalorians are "mostly human" in comparison, where as Yautja are veritable juggernauts, they should take the skill advantage as Yautja are basically born and bread to fight and hunt and live for hundreds if not thousands of years if nothing kills them, and they spend almost all of that time hunting, only thing keeping him alive is his armour really and that has very obvious exploits and considering it might not even be considered "real beskar" makes it all the more likely some well placed acid or attacks, could potentially punch right through.

So about that...

 

[Tipper17]

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

For half a second I thought the Doctor was Tobuscus. XD

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

I'm glad to know it's not doof vs. rick.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

So about that...

I'm still wondering what the writers were thinking when they decided to have Boba "fall" into the sarlacc pit multiple times. There's a reoccurring joke and then there's just lazy writing.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

But here’s the thing, no one knows who Iori is, atleast from a casuals perspective

KoF is big in Asia, and Latin and South America.

 

[Loh67867]

KoF is big in Asia, and Latin and South America.

Yeah but Death Battle is aimed at Murica, North Murica to be specific, it's not aimed at any of these people

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Yeah, though I’d like Iori vs Kazuya to happen, I don’t think it’s likely

 

[Mariogoods]

I blame sevil's lazy ass for not updating the verse page.

PoC is Canon, check it here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/devil-may-cry-revisions-conceptual-edition.123307/

TL;DR: it's a sequel taking place between DMC 3 and DMC 1 (I predicted it :v) and it doesn't contradict Canon so far. Vergil campaign is its own thing and surprisingly it follows Canon too, it takes place immediately after DMC 3 tho so like I said it's is own thing.

Thank you for your input. However, I feel that the justification of canonicity of PoC is not so reliable since they are all from self-promotional texts, which could be unreliable especially considering the origin of this game has history of...you know and the wall prevents them from verifying the canonicity. Therefore, I feel that (although it may be rude) asking official Capcom to confirm if it is canon though non-primary source is important.

 

[Jasonsith]

Thank you for your input. However, I feel that the justification of canonicity of PoC is not so reliable since they are all from self-promotional texts, which could be unreliable especially considering the origin of this game has history of...you know and the wall prevents them from verifying the canonicity. Therefore, I feel that (although it may be rude) asking official Capcom to confirm if it is canon though non-primary source is important.

Have we done similar things before?
Why would the developer team be even granted permission to talk to a small part of the audience about explanation of the lore when they need to be busy to prepare documents for the approval of the issuing country and to fix the bugs?

Well, I need to go to the materials in supporting DMC manga and DMC: POC in ascertaining the authenticity of the explanation of the 5-D or even 9-D lore of DMC.

I mean, if someone digs out some collective unconsciousness crap out from DMC we may as well have DMC the same tier as SMT. Or we back check the authenticity of the supporting documents for the SMT lore.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Tipper17]

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Some more sweet art from CarbonatedJem

 

[Jasonsith]

Some more sweet art from CarbonatedJem

I do not know if this is called a spite matchup but I wonder if we should present it after Discord vs Bill Cipher - and I am sure people including CarbonatedJem are cheering for Tirek against Kai the Collector very hard.

Yeah add this along with Discord vs Bill Cipher being the MLP battles that Rooster Teeth has to make.

So... Only canned voice clips for Predator? This is one Clink 2 moment. Boba Fett wins already.

 

[Jasonsith]

Wanna do another one with Iori Yagami vs Kazuya Mishima?

Should fans cheer for The Doctor (Doctor Who) we may have another case where a "more serious" character defeats a more goofy character?
And I am surprised we do not have Rick Sanchez vs Professor Farnsworth before Rick Sanchez vs Doctor Who.

 

[Mariogoods]

Why would the developer team be even granted permission to talk to a small part of the audience about explanation of the lore when they need to be busy to prepare documents for the approval of the issuing country and to fix the bugs?

Well, I need to go to the materials in supporting DMC manga and DMC: POC in ascertaining the authenticity of the explanation of the 5-D or even 9-D lore of DMC.

Maybe it is better to analyze DMC manga and DMC: POC directly. The canonality of such mobile games is questionable for reason I said above. In extreme cases, even the local fans of certain verses would not consider it a canon, but IDK how local fan treats DMC: POC.

 

[Nero415]

So DMC is Tier 1 now.....

Okay then

 

[Jasonsith]

So DMC is Tier 1 now.....

Okay then

At least one for a canon from a mobile game directly licensed by Capcom.

We have had DMC crossover with SMT before.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Hey, to any Fate fans on this thread: what do you guys think of Rohan Kishibe vs William Shakespeare, I got it from r/DBM

 

[Tipper17]

So DMC is Tier 1 now.....

Okay then

not sold on it in any way

 

[The_Smashor]

Hey, to any Fate fans on this thread: what do you guys think of Rohan Kishibe vs William Shakespeare, I got it from r/DBM

I like it, though Shakespeare dosn't really fight much (Hell, one of the main reasons he was effective on Jeanne is because he summoned another Servant).

Still my favorite for both and probably works the best since it'd be a battle of wits as both are intrigued with each other.

 

[Tipper17]

Man i feel annoyed how there isn't many animators these days outside of DB

 

[SomaKing13]

So... Only canned voice clips for Predator? This is one Clink 2 moment. Boba Fett wins already.

TBF, it's not like a Predator has actual dialogue and such by themselve outside of Optimus Prime clicking at you agressively or roaring, but we might get some rad moments of the Yautja recording Boba's voice and using it against him, like how the first movie used the voices of Dutch's dead teammates to taunt him.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

I like it, though Shakespeare dosn't really fight much (Hell, one of the main reasons he was effective on Jeanne is because he summoned another Servant).

Still my favorite for both and probably works the best since it'd be a battle of wits as both are intrigued with each other.

I only know a bit about Shakespeare, but from what I've seen his personality would probably bounce well with Rohan's.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I do not know if this is called a spite matchup but I wonder if we should present it after Discord vs Bill Cipher - and I am sure people including CarbonatedJem are cheering for Tirek against Kai the Collector very hard.

I personally think Tirek vs Moro would be better and has more connections but Kai is a good alternative.

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Man i feel annoyed how there isn't many animators these days outside of DB

Yeah unfortunately not as many people are getting into versus animations nowadays as they were back in the day. There's still occasional ones like that guy who did Godzilla v Kong and Hulk v Saitama and Guile v Winter Soldier, and Smash Bracket is a recent appearance, but outside of them the only other place was Hyun's Dojo whenever they uploaded something.

It's definitely an issue of funds and organizing something like this nowadays. Most people just don't have the funds to organize for a big versus fight.

When will a higher power let me fall upon a large sum of cash so I can fulfill the people's wishes.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Thank you for your input. However, I feel that the justification of canonicity of PoC is not so reliable since they are all from self-promotional texts,

That's a lot more of what other entries in the series had regarding canon. (i.e. mangas, novels, CD dramas) and yet they all were known to be canon even before Matt/Itsuno came in saying so.

which could be unreliable especially considering the origin of this game has history of...you know and the wall prevents them from verifying the canonicity. Therefore, I feel that (although it may be rude) asking official Capcom to confirm if it is canon though non-primary source is important.

idk, can you explain? Language barrier applies to basically every single entry in the series so bad argument there.

Overall by that logic we would had to ask in the past if the mentioned stuff above is likewise canon to the games or if the games themselves are canon to each other. Bad logic, you should feel bad for it.

 

[Mariogoods]

idk, can you explain? Language barrier applies to basically every single entry in the series so bad argument there.

No, it's not about language barrier. The region has history of making such gacha games which is "yeah we have got licenses (or not) and we can just mess the verse up". And such mobile games have history of not being considered as main series by local fanbase. Examples include Contra Returns, The King of Fighters: Destiny. It should be considered as an alternative timeline at beast best.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

No, it's not about language barrier. The region has history of making such gacha games which is "yeah we have got licenses (or not) and we can just mess the verse up". And such mobile games have history of not being considered as main series by local fanbase. Examples include Contra Returns, The King of Fighters: Destiny. It should be considered as an alternative timeline at beast.

Capcom DMC team is collaborating with NebulaJoy. Itsuno has outright mentioned his excitement for the mobile game in an interview. Its officially licensed from and supervised by Capcom.

And having gacha elements has no bearing on story.
Worst come worst if it becomes an alternative timeline in future because the devs willed it... even then 90% of world building and background lore would still apply to DMC cuz multiverse shenanigans. Not the first time DMC has dealt with alternative timeline shit.

 

[CardboardSlime]

Also I did a breakdown of all the take a Predator could potentially bring into battle and holy shit,
MASK
-Thermal vision
-Tracking vision
-x-ray vision
-energy tracking vision
-Ultra violet vision
-”normal” vision
-neuro-vision
-tech tracker vision
-Electromagnetic field tracker vision
-countless other visual frequency visions
-Several diagnostic systems
-zoom function
-can scan the health of a target and discover various things about them and their body, even things such as their social status and rank
-Trajectory prediction and planning
-Respirator
-translator
-Audio and Visual recording software
-communicator
-HUD
-targeting and tracking system for his weapons
Cloaking Device
Medicomp (med-kit)
Plate Armour
SAT-COM and Radar tracking
Ceremonial Dagger
Combi-stick
Gauntlet Plasma Bolt
Power Glove
Laser Nets
Sword
Netgun
Plasma Caster
Self-Destruct Device
Chakra
Shuriken
Solvent (a couple drops can completely vaporize a swimming pool of water, several bodies AND a Xenomorph, who are immune to their own acid)
Spear Gun
Blade Whip
Wristblades
Arm Blades
Electric Bolas
Chemical Sprayer
Glaive
Implosion Device (functions like his self destruct device but instead implodes sucking everything up with it)
Hard-Meat Armour
Plasma Pistol
Sound projectors
Tag (a device used for baiting a target instead of killing it, think of it like a literal tag hunters would put on prey to keep track of the same prey)
Throwing Mines:
-Laser Trap
-Fire Trap
-EMP Mine
-Sonic Trap
-Plasma Mine
-Remote Bomb
Bleeder Speargun
Cloaking Field Device (cloaks an entire area instead of just the individual
Military Grade Armour (think Beskar but for Predator’s, nigh indestructible)
Plasma Missile system
Pred-Gun
Plasma Scythe
Point Defence System

So uh, if it wasn't clear, the yautja is going to have the versatility department down flat

Also was just reading an article and apparently Boba's armour might not even be Beskar, all sources outside of a single reference by Mando (who has no knowledge on the armour outside of it being Mandalorian) where as every other source says it's Durasteel or atleast an energized durasteel alloy, being while it's super durable, it isn't as durable as originally thought.

it's looking like Boba's only saving grace is EU stats

Holy moly, that's a lot of gadgets! Predator could give Batman a run for his money on gadgetry and prep. I can sorta see why some people think Predator is gonna win.

 

[Jasonsith]

not sold on it in any way

Off topic: I remember there is a comic panel about a strong natural owl that is wanked to an absurd level.

Anyone remember where it is?

As well as Wesker vs Kazuya is gaining unironically good popularity.

I wish it didn’t

Neither do I.

And Wesker vs Kazuya, while being requested sure, is not really spiteful enough like everyone loves Omni-Man and hates Homelander and wants Nolan to execute John brutally that popular.

Man i feel annoyed how there isn't many animators these days outside of DB

Animators need to eat. And they may as well take jobs in other projects instead of making character versus debating battles.

And a lot of animators are in Japan, Korea, PR China and ROC Taiwan. But I do not see Rooster Teeth moving to those countries or regions soon.

Also what said by Kirbonic_Pikmin. Budget is an issue, audience base is also an issue.

Capcom DMC team is collaborating with NebulaJoy. Itsuno has outright mentioned his excitement for the mobile game in an interview. Its officially licensed from and supervised by Capcom.

And having gacha elements has no bearing on story.
Worst come worst if it becomes an alternative timeline in future because the devs willed it... even then 90% of world building and background lore would still apply to DMC cuz multiverse shenanigans. Not the first time DMC has dealt with alternative timeline shit.

This really. DMC DMC knows it.

For example: I remember Knuckles cannot turn into Hyper Knuckles anymore because the devs willed it.

 

[The_Smashor]

And a lot of animators are in Japan, Korea, PR China and ROC Taiwan. But I do not see Rooster Teeth moving to those countries or regions soon.

If they ever decide to make the show international, it could be a possibility (Even if at this point I doubt they'll do that).

 

[Mariogoods]

If they ever decide to make the show international, it could be a possibility (Even if at this point I doubt they'll do that).

I feel that making a profile for these verses in VS Battles Wiki or any other profile wikis first is good since Death Battle Team is likely taking a look at relevant wikis for information.