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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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fandom_0ホルスファルコン将軍0 said:
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There's always going to be subjectivity to a degree, especially when dealing with more esoteric feats, things that are left unclear, or franchises that are highly inconsistent, but when franchises/characters have definitive calcs or consistent statements/feats that equal a specific stat/tier, there's only so much you can say "I don't buy this/this is subjective" unless you have a genuine debunk to disprove the stats/feats and how they're rated. Just simply saying "I don't buy this" kind of defeats the purpose of versus debating.
 
Calcs and statements can have problems, tho problems can have variety of different sources of problems. I'd argue common sense should be used to an extend as well.

Generally after seeing DB for years, I do think favoring lowballs should be safer as an estimate. I think for DB fights they should potentially use a "range" for characters' stats, as nothing is definite, trying to showcase a range feels like it would produce less problems if one could show how a character can be certain level of strength via different methods.

Tho DB and VS are nowadays broken because of Gokek and now everyone is universal, multiversal or even complex multiversal, bleh.
 
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No Baki MU*


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Peter_Quicksilver_Maximoff said:
Thanks
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Just scroll down a bit to see their P5 and P5R abilities
So here they are in order of arcana
Satanael
Futsunushi
Cybele
Mother Harlot
Odin
Kohryu
Ishtar
Chi You
Metatron
Ongyo ki
Lakshmi
Zaou-Gongen
Attis
Alice
Ardha
Beelzebub
Mada
Lucifer
Sandalphon
Asura
Satan
Maria
Vohu Manah
Also Nevermind about Yoshitsune, I thought he was a maxed arcana persona
Also wanna add some of them have the same abilities, so you could maybe shorten the list to get rid of the ones that don’t do anything unique or keep only ones that are popular. Also passive skills only apply when you have the persona equipped
 
Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
I did a bunch of looking into current trends & possibilities for MU's, and this is generally what I came up with. It's a long read but tell me if you guys feel any of these MUs fit or are possible for Seasons 9 and 10.

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Apologies for ******** up the thread, but I just wanted to vomit out ideas and get general reception.

I also forgot to mention in the predictions that a Chainsaw-Man and Jujutsu Kaisen matchup in Season 10 is also very likely due to both's staggering popularity and both having matchups against each other that are popular. Gon vs Deku is also very likely for Season 10 if MHA wraps up soon.
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"Held back by being an MLP MU which the DB cast wants nothing more to do with, and for good reason"
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Actually go **** yourself, fall off your bed
 
JoshDoshMosh said:
Ayo, Devil May Cry finally featured Demifiend from the Shin Megami Tensei series?
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Bayobros are real quiet rn
fandom_0ホルスファルコン将軍0 said:
My Brother in Christ (still unsure if I can say n****a), the fandom's heyday has long since passed and Twilight's poorly researched and ill-timed loss to Raven proved Bronies can take an L, we ain't in 2012.
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Even if they couldn't there's only one more MLP matchup worth doing and it's probably a stomp in their favor
 
JoshDoshMosh said:
Ill timed? How so?
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Because the episode was released in Feb 28, 2018 while the MLP:FiM show was in its penultimate season 8. It ended proper on October 10th, 2019 and the IDW comics which have been retconned as canon finished in September 2021 which give Twilight even more feats. The episode became outdated almost immediately and they downplayed both characters.
 
fandom_0ホルスファルコン将軍0 said:
Because the episode was released in Feb 28, 2018 while the MLP:FiM show was in its penultimate season 8. It ended proper on October 10th, 2019 and the IDW comics which have been retconned as canon finished in September 2021 which give Twilight even more feats. The episode became outdated almost immediately and they downplayed both characters.
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Does it change the outcome? I’m pretty sure Raven still has Herald scaling
 
JoshDoshMosh said:
Does it change the outcome? I’m pretty sure Raven still has Herald scaling
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It's ehh? The highest interpretation for MLP due to the comics is potentially 2A, but because lolcomicsduo, it's pretty easy for them to just scale her to Trigon's best feats and be tier 1

Ignoring this site's rules on speed, both Raven and Twilight have immeasurable arguments and crazy lists of hax from what I know. If speed is comparable and Twilight can access the elements or rainbow power, then her constant magic shields in that state, plus her 2-A scaling chains, could potentially net her a W.

But if White Raven is tier 1, than it's dimensional tiering ggs
 
OverlordDonnelly said:
It's ehh? The highest interpretation for MLP due to the comics is potentially 2A, but because lolcomicsduo, it's pretty easy for them to just scale her to Trigon's best feats and be tier 1

Ignoring this site's rules on speed, both Raven and Twilight have immeasurable arguments and crazy lists of hax from what I know. If speed is comparable and Twilight can access the elements or rainbow power, then her constant magic shields in that state, plus her 2-A scaling chains, could potentially net her a W.

But if White Raven is tier 1, than it's dimensional tiering ggs
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That and Raven can indeed be harmed by excessive positive emotions, which they got wrong. And they conflated the Magic of Friendship/Harmony with Twilight's normal magic, which is also wrong.
 
fandom_0ホルスファルコン将軍0 said:
I have no idea, my heart says yes but my quick search of Raven's (surprisingly lacking) profile says "it doesn't look good, Twilybro".
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OverlordDonnelly said:
It's ehh? The highest interpretation for MLP due to the comics is potentially 2A, but because lolcomicsduo, it's pretty easy for them to just scale her to Trigon's best feats and be tier 1

Ignoring this site's rules on speed, both Raven and Twilight have immeasurable arguments and crazy lists of hax from what I know. If speed is comparable and Twilight can access the elements or rainbow power, then her constant magic shields in that state, plus her 2-A scaling chains, could potentially net her a W.

But if White Raven is tier 1, than it's dimensional tiering ggs
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More of an interesting debate than I thought
 
TMaakkonen said:
Its just amazing how Dragon Ball got legit continuation after 13 years right after GvS1 and Goku became real universal just 2 months after GvS2.
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Joys of an upgrade
TMaakkonen said:
Calcs and statements can have problems, tho problems can have variety of different sources of problems. I'd argue common sense should be used to an extend as well.

Generally after seeing DB for years, I do think favoring lowballs should be safer as an estimate. I think for DB fights they should potentially use a "range" for characters' stats, as nothing is definite, trying to showcase a range feels like it would produce less problems if one could show how a character can be certain level of strength via different methods.

Tho DB and VS are nowadays broken because of Gokek and now everyone is universal, multiversal or even complex multiversal, bleh.
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Oh yeah it definitely made things hectic and overall inconsistent
 
TMaakkonen said:
Calcs and statements can have problems, tho problems can have variety of different sources of problems. I'd argue common sense should be used to an extend as well.

Generally after seeing DB for years, I do think favoring lowballs should be safer as an estimate. I think for DB fights they should potentially use a "range" for characters' stats, as nothing is definite, trying to showcase a range feels like it would produce less problems if one could show how a character can be certain level of strength via different methods.

Tho DB and VS are nowadays broken because of Gokek and now everyone is universal, multiversal or even complex multiversal, bleh.
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Oh great, another person saying that because Dragon Ball got a legitimate universal feat and people discovered legitimate universal feats for other verses, versus is broken.
 
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