Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Loh67867]

[Testament Luis Virgil has entered the chat]

(Before you ask, he's an MU for Mokou, not Alucard per se)




This is basically what D.M.E addiction is, from basically cannibalising Realians (the 'blurred line' between Humans and Androids in the series, according to the wiki). Keep in mind, this was pre-Testament, and leads into one of these corollary relations.



#JustTestamentThings

Also, you could make an argument that the soul manipulation in the Testament's case is wanting to spend eternity with their beloved (Kevin with Shion, Virgil with Febronia), and while that's supposed to be Wilhelm's job (again, depending on who you ask), A) Testaments have always acted as buffers for this kind of thing, and B) III's narrative is so half-cocked, it contradicts itself every other second (hence Testament page being a discredited article).



Does being a Military lieutenant count? They're not exactly social.
Speaking of which...



Febronia (a U-TIC era Realian) is the one that (supposedly) nursed Luis Virgil back to health just before the attack on Old Miltia, but... might have accidentally spurred on his D.M.E addiction when Febronia is left for dead by a pack of berserk military Realians (which I'll remind you is the one thing Virgil hates with a passion, with Febronia ending out as the one exception)

So yeah, that's why Virgil would be my pick for Mokou's MU.

Sounds alright, i can't really say anything meaningful because i still haven't played any Xeno game yet, lol
Also, ****, i had a typo

 

[Loh67867]

As a shallow ACGN casual... I kind of want Fujiwara no Mokou vs Phoenix Ikki

Phoenix-themed fighters
Both are notable for immortality
Both are also notable of fighting with flame-themed attacks
Can add more connections if anyone have time
They sit at around High 3-A to Low 2-C in AP

What you just mentioned aplies to Jean as well
(Well except 2-C, IIRC she's tier 1)

 

[Joycap]

Sounds alright, i can't really say anything meaningful because i still haven't played any Xeno game yet, lol
Also, ****, i had a typo

Nah, it's chill lol

In fact... do we want to make Mokou a 'community' MU chart, in the same way we did a custom community season around this time last year?

I mean **** has it been that long already?

 

[Loh67867]

In fact... do we want to make Mokou a 'community' MU chart, in the same way we did a custom community season around this time last year?

I mean **** has it been that long already?

How about we make a full DB season fully consisting of Mokou's MUs?

 

[Joycap]

How about we make a full DB season fully consisting of Mokou's MUs?

 

[Seventy96]

Is this match-up even possible?

Spoiler

 

[Stefano4444]

Is this match-up even possible?

Spoiler

In the near future? Unlikely.

In the distant future? It depend by how much it get popular/requested overtime.

 

[Tipper17]

Is this match-up even possible?

Spoiler

Less than 10% and what he said

In the near future? Unlikely.

In the distant future? It depend by how much it get popular/requested overtime.

 

[Jasonsith]

Nah, it's chill lol

In fact... do we want to make Mokou a 'community' MU chart, in the same way we did a custom community season around this time last year?

I mean **** has it been that long already?

I mean... If we spam matchups without concerning quality we can easily fill the holes of 12, 16 or even 20.

Is this match-up even possible?

Spoiler

In the near future? Unlikely.

In the distant future? It depend by how much it get popular/requested overtime.

This.

Well Bloom (Winx Club) vs Will Vandom (W.I.T.C.H.) is not much heard in Asia. Pretty Cure is the big name in the fighting magical girl genre. Puella Magi verse and Sailor Moon are globally recognised. Winx Club and W.I.T.C.H. are way lesser heard.

 

[Joycap]

I mean... If we spam matchups without concerning quality we can easily fill the holes of 12, 16 or even 20.

What do you mean?

 

[Jasonsith]

What do you mean?

I refer to the two charts the above has mentioned

In fact... do we want to make Mokou a 'community' MU chart, in the same way we did a custom community season around this time last year?

I mean **** has it been that long already?

How about we make a full DB season fully consisting of Mokou's MUs?

Like the character matchup chart or a season wishlist chart is not something new.

 

[Epiccheev]

Why do they have Denji winning I wonder

His Chainsaw Devil form probably seems more impressive to casuals going purely by direct feats.
90% of the time Chainsaw devil moves so fast it's like he's teleporting around the city for other characters, he's been sent into space and came back (wich looks really impressive but from a calc point objectively isn't),nearly every time he attacks someone dies instantly or a building gets annihilated, and there's also the erasure from history when eaten thing, that would be really OP if he didn't need to physically eat his opponent to do it. (Like, how would it even work against a giant or someone who regenerates instantly?).
If you take only their showings and ignore scaling i would think Chainsaw devil denji is stronger too. (excluding sukuna)

 

[Joycap]

I refer to the two charts the above has mentioned

Like the character matchup chart or a season wishlist chart is not something new.

Well here's the thumbnail anyway for my suggestion whichever we do

 

[Tipper17]

His Chainsaw Devil form probably seems more impressive to casuals going purely by direct feats.
90% of the time Chainsaw devil moves so fast it's like he's teleporting around the city for other characters, he's been sent into space and came back (wich looks really impressive but from a calc point objectively isn't),nearly every time he attacks someone dies instantly or a building gets annihilated, and there's also the erasure from history when eaten thing, that would be really OP if he didn't need to physically eat his opponent to do it. (Like, how would it even work against a giant or someone who regenerates instantly?).
If you take only their showings and ignore scaling i would think Chainsaw devil denji is stronger too. (excluding sukuna)

Funny I thought that would be the opposite

 

[Seventy96]

After this episode Death Battle would receive death threats

Spoiler

 

[Quantu]

HA Dio would be better than Hit tbh

 

[Derpmaster9000]

After this episode Death Battle would receive death threats

Spoiler

Explain how exactly?

 

[Jasonsith]

After this episode Death Battle would receive death threats

Spoiler

Spoiler

Cell: Okay but why tho.wmv

Also, this is a well-requested MU.

And lastly, ratio of people from Hit or Sakuya or any other character that will send a death threat on this one?

Spoiler

maybe some are thinking this will somehow trigger "death threats"

 

[Seventy96]

Explain how exactly?

Death Battle got death threats after Goku Black vs Reverse Flash, so why not after episode where DB character got beaten by a girl?

 

[Derpmaster9000]

Death Battle got death threats after Goku Black vs Reverse Flash, so why not after episode where DB character got beaten by a girl?

Assuming Hit does get beat? Odds are more in his favor, as opposed to Black, who never stood a chance against Thawne. Hardly comparable.

 

[Loh67867]

Death Battle got death threats after Goku Black vs Reverse Flash, so why not after episode where DB character got beaten by a girl?

People send death threats after GB vs RF? What?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Assuming Hit does get beat? Odds are more in his favor, as opposed to Black, who never stood a chance against Thawne. Hardly comparable.

Yeah. If anything I’d argue Hit wins that. They buy inf Touhou as far as they can throw it and funni DB multipliers/uni size make Hit stronger.

 

[Seventy96]

People send death threats after GB vs RF? What?

Yes

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

After this episode Death Battle would receive death threats

Spoiler

Explain how exactly?

Yeah tbh, the Touhou Fandom seems chill

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yeah tbh, the Touhou Fandom seems chill

Ehhhhh….
You’d be surprised.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Are they like K-on fans?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Are they like K-on fans?

Idk how K-on fans are. But you have a sizable portion who thinks that Touhou is unbeatable. And if you say “yeah no they’re nowhere near this level” they’ll flip out on you. Namely Yukari, Reimu, Sakuya, and the two vampires.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Idk how K-on fans are. But you have a sizable portion who thinks that Touhou is unbeatable. And if you say “yeah no they’re nowhere near this level” they’ll flip out on you. Namely Yukari, Reimu, Sakuya, and the two vampires.

Ah, I thought you meant the entire Touhou community, not just the versus. Yeah the Touhou vs community kinda overestimates their characters judging by how alot of them think they're on the same level as Lovecraft and DC
Although I’ve never seen direct toxicity

 

[RiloKileyFan]

Omni-Man preview is pretty basic. Just lore and some abilities.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

I don't know what happened to me last night but somehow i came up with this MU and i'm surprised it actually works, kinda cursed tbh

Fujiwara no Mokou vs Alucard (Touhou vs Hellsing)
Connections: Both are characters who were born hundreds of years ago, even before their series' major events truly started. Both were born in the real life historical monarchical families (Alucard is literally Vlad the Impaler, voivode of Wallachia, while Mokou is a member of Fujiwara clan, a powerful family of imperial regents in Japan). They both were regular humans, until they drank a certain liquid (Vampire blood and Hourai Elixir), which gave them overpowered regeneration and immortality, making them very difficult to kill in verse. Said liquids had something to do with people they despise and kill alot (The vampires for Alucard and Kaguya for Mokou). They were both isolated from pretty much everyone for hundreds of years (Alucard was beaten by Abraham Von Hellsing, who sealed away Alucard for a long time, while Mokou wasn't able to live as an ordinary human, so she had to move from place to place, at one point isolating herself from humans). They both have rather cold & menacing attitudes but they have a more bright side which they show towards humans (Alucard being envious of humans' mortality and having respect for them and Mokou escorting lost humans she finds within the Bamboo Forest of the Lost). Both have an ability which has something to do with souls (Alucard absorbing souls of his opponents and Mokou being able to regenerate from her soul indefinitely). Despite both being pretty much unkillable, they can still be beaten because of their aspects (Alucard's arrogance and Mokou's pain intolerance) which leads to their defeat. Both have contrasting views on pain (Alucard allows himself to get absolutely blown to pieces and get hurt in other very horrible ways just for him to return and continue fighting, while Mokou can stop fighting just because she's experiencing too much pain). Also both are red clad.

...I hate that this is actually good. Don't forget their close relationships with human women who act as protectors of humanity, with Mokou and Alucard being protected by and protecting those people respectively (Keine and Integra). Doesn't hurt that these are two of my favorite characters of all time.

Ah, I thought you meant the entire Touhou community, not just the versus. Yeah the Touhou vs community kinda overestimates their characters judging by how alot of them think they're on the same level as Lovecraft and DC
Although I’ve never seen direct toxicity

Have you read a single Touhou thread on this site

Anyways I'll openly admit that even with all of its bullshit, Touhou isn't the strongest verse in existence or anything, although it's decently up there in terms of power. Also gotta remember that for every Touhou wanker, there's an equal number of downplayers who genuinely believe the verse caps at building level/hypersonic, which is a kind of bullshit I'm glad I haven't had to put up with on this site yet.

 

[Tipper17]

People send death threats after GB vs RF? What?

No only one moron named spongeboy

Death Battle got death threats after Goku Black vs Reverse Flash, so why not after episode where DB character got beaten by a girl?

No they didn't besides said guy
Also death threats aren't new for DB they got death threats for Beerus beating Galaxia in S7 and for MachoAIDS

 

[Tipper17]

HA Dio would be better than Hit tbh

Infinite Ultron exist for HA Dio

After this episode Death Battle would receive death threats

Spoiler

I hardly doubt Hit vs Sakuya would cause DB getting Death Threat's

 

[Tipper17]

Yeah. If anything I’d argue Hit wins that. They buy inf Touhou as far as they can throw it and funni DB multipliers/uni size make Hit stronger.

Uni u mean?
And yeah not to mention speed is in Hits Favor

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Problem is that basically every uni Touhou feat is already infinite (or at minimum scales to Amitabha, which DB multipliers come nowhere near). So really, I doubt Sakuya won't have the AP advantage, because if they buy uni, what the **** else are they gonna scale her to?

 

[Tipper17]

Death Battle doesn't do Infinite Universe shit going by Black vs Thawne QnA they just go how big is ur universe in comparison

I thought the heaven got bunked to an extent but if not if it boils down to how they view the feat

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Again, every structure in Touhou that could be argued as universal is in fact infinite, so what would they be comparing DB's universe size to if not that? There are just too many feats in the series with 'infinite' tacked on that makes multipliers irrelevant, and if DB has dug deep enough to buy uni Touhou, I don't see how they'd just skip over those mentions of infinite size. Infinite speed is a different story though, partially because unlike uni, we don't even know if they're aware of the feats.

Suika's heaven busting was wrong, still plenty of uni feats to go around though.

 

[Tipper17]

I already covered this before but let's go

AP: like I mentioned if the buy the heaven feats than Hit ain't doing shit if they don't then it belongs to Hit

Hax: Sakuya easily her time manipulation is far more deadly than Hit by a good amount

Speed: Hit takes it in terms of quantified speed feats Touhou doesn't get far than Millions-billions iirc only best shot if they see but infinite speed which I doubt

Again, every structure in Touhou that could be argued as universal is in fact infinite, so what would they be comparing DB's universe size to if not that? There are just too many feats in the series with 'infinite' tacked on that makes multipliers irrelevant, and if DB has dug deep enough to buy uni Touhou, I don't see how they'd just skip over those mentions of infinite size. Infinite speed is a different story though, partially because unlike uni, we don't even know if they're aware of the feats.

Suika's heaven busting was wrong, still plenty of uni feats to go around though.

Marvel and DC had tons of Infinite Universe Arguments but they weren't used just how big my Universe compared to yours even Dragon Ball infinite has arguments so they probably view it as mute

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Uni u mean?
And yeah not to mention speed is in Hits Favor

Nah they buy uni 2hu. It’s infinite speed they don’t buy.
I’m not even sure they buy that Amitabha exists let alone anyone scaling to him. And I know for certain they don’t buy the Sanzu River stuff

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

I already covered this before but let's go

AP: like I mentioned if the buy the heaven feats than Hit ain't doing shit if they don't then it belongs to Hit

Hax: Sakuya easily her time manipulation is far more deadly than Hit by a good amount

Speed: Hit takes it in terms of quantified speed feats Touhou doesn't get far than Millions-billions iirc only best shot if they see but infinite speed which I doubt

Basically how I see it too.

Marvel and DC had tons of Infinite Universe Arguments but they weren't used just how big my Universe compared to your Yours even Dragon Ball has arguments so they probably view it as mute

Comics are infamously inconsistent with shit though, it's practically what they're notable for in VS debating. Also, I though the infinite universe DB stuff was just a mistranslation?

Nah they buy uni 2hu. It’s infinite speed they don’t buy.

Damn, really? Any particular reason why?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Damn, really? Any particular reason why?

To simplify it, a lot of the infinite sized stuff they don’t buy to be infinite. Sanzu River’s ever-changing size, hell crossing when they could’ve found an exit (assuming they buy hell being infinite in size in the first place which I don’t think they do), and Kaguya’s corridor not actually being infinite.