Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[RiloKileyFan]

EL HERMANO MUCHAS GRACIAS

 

[StekFence]

If Dios head on Jonathan's body is the same as Jonathan's head on Jonathan's body.

In fairness, it basically is. They both scale to part 1 Dio. And yes Jonathan unironically hits harder then many stands.

 

[RiloKileyFan]

I watched the db reaction via nemesis. I'm not giving deathbattle a view for such a wrong episode conclusion.
They really had to stretch to give Jonathan a win didn't they? They said well light speed is just standard in jojos everybody has been lightspeed sense part 1.
At that point why not just have dio without a stand fighting tanjuro? If Dios head on Jonathan's body is the same as Jonathan's head on Jonathan's body. Jonathan would totally be able to punch as hard as stands lol.
And seriously Jon crying over killing some kid? Can he be more out of character?

they didn't need to stretch anything, they presented what's mostly accepted acrossed all battle boards for JJBA. hardly anybody thought Tanjiro stood a chance here.

i thought the episode wasn't as good either but c'mon

 

[StekFence]

Actually, considering both part 1 dio and Jonathan are considered close to part 3 dio in ap, I’m wondering why they aren’t mftl on this site

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

In fairness, it basically is. They both scale to part 1 Dio. And yes Jonathan unironically hits harder then many stands.

they didn't need to stretch anything, they presented what's mostly accepted acrossed all battle boards for JJBA. hardly anybody thought Tanjiro stood a chance here.

i thought the episode wasn't as good either but c'mon

Actually, considering both part 1 dio and Jonathan are considered close to part 3 dio in ap, I’m wondering why they aren’t mftl on this site

According to DB:

Jonathan has 8-B+ AP with at least FTL possibly MFTL+ speed.

Tanijiro has 8-B AP with MHS speed.

Note both characters were noted to upscaled to be stronger than the AP feats that were 8-B+ and 8-B respectively (So DB arguably may have made them 8-A or higher).

Thoughts on the ratings DB gave them?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I know Thorgeta’s been suggested as a match for awhile but what are the actual connections between them exactly?

Prideful prince gods

 

[StekFence]

Jonathan has 8-B+ AP with at least FTL possibly MFTL+ speed.

the Speed is pretty reasonable, at least scaling wise to me. i don’t know where the ap comes from tho, since it’s just the cliffs area and the result.

 

[Myguy]

i still dont know how jonathan scales to ftl

he is clearly inferior to speed to joseph and he does not scales to star platinum or stone ocean speed and power

 

[Soulgizmo]

they didn't need to stretch anything, they presented what's mostly accepted acrossed all battle boards for JJBA. hardly anybody thought Tanjiro stood a chance here.

i thought the episode wasn't as good either but c'mon

I wonder why Araki didn't have jojo throwing goddamn buildings around

 

[Soulgizmo]

i still dont know how jonathan scales to ftl

he is clearly inferior to speed to joseph and he does not scales to star platinum or stone ocean speed and power

Don't you see of course he's faster than light. Other people dodged light beams!!!

 

[Tipper17]

i still dont know how jonathan scales to ftl

he is clearly inferior to speed to joseph and he does not scales to star platinum or stone ocean speed and power

Joseph didn't surpass Jonathan until he finished his training nothing suggest Pre Mastery of hamon Joseph is above Jonathan

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

the Speed is pretty reasonable, at least scaling wise to me. i don’t know where the ap comes from tho, since it’s just the cliffs area and the result.

DB had Tarkus throwing and swinging boulders at 81.5 tons of TNT which both Dio and Jonathan (post-ripple transfer) both upscale above hence the 8-B+ AP rating.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

i still dont know how jonathan scales to ftl

he is clearly inferior to speed to joseph and he does not scales to star platinum or stone ocean speed and power

Er…it’s not clear that he’s inferior to Joseph though. Jonathan is explicitly stated in the Jojo media to be outright a more prodigal of a Hamon user than Joseph, and even pre-training is able to slightly keep up with the Pillar Men, of which Kars has a FTL feat.

 

[StekFence]

Ye ik. I’m just wondering how they got the cliff thing to that tier.

 

[StekFence]

i still dont know how jonathan scales to ftl

he is clearly inferior to speed to joseph and he does not scales to star platinum or stone ocean speed and power

He scales to whatever part 1 dio does. Makes sense, they are main chars after all. Now, Part 1 dio is not much different from part 3 dio in stats. The only time part 3 dio surpasses part 1 dio by much is when he absorbed Joseph’s blood. Due to having High dio p3 scaling to Sp, it basically makes jon downscale from sp.

 

[Myguy]

Er…it’s not clear that he’s inferior to Joseph though. Jonathan is explicitly stated in the Jojo media to be outright a more prodigal of a Hamon user than Joseph, and even pre-training is able to slightly keep up with the Pillar Men, of which Kars has a FTL feat.

0:36 and 0.58

its pretty clear that joseph is superior in speed

 

[StekFence]

Jon blocked it tho. Both times, he raised his arms to defend himself. While he’s doing a whole bend is much harder then raising two arms, there would be scaling, as Jon wouldn’t be that much slower for that

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I watched the db reaction via nemesis. I'm not giving deathbattle a view for such a wrong episode conclusion.

Wrong by what exactly....

They really had to stretch to give Jonathan a win didn't they? They said well light speed is just standard in jojos everybody has been lightspeed sense part 1.
At that point why not just have dio without a stand fighting tanjuro? If Dios head on Jonathan's body is the same as Jonathan's head on Jonathan's body. Jonathan would totally be able to punch as hard as stands lol.

Dio in part 3 is weaker then his part 1 self, which jonathan faced and beaten thats justified and logical, iffy they had dio put as strong as star platinum, but it is what it is on that

And seriously Jon crying over killing some kid? Can he be more out of character?

He cried even for Dio despite how much of a piece of shit he was to jonathan, why for tanjiro he shouldnt cry lol

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Actually, considering both part 1 dio and Jonathan are considered close to part 3 dio in ap, I’m wondering why they aren’t mftl on this site

Apparently the one responsible for jojo here is too lazy to do this, thats basically it

 

[Myguy]

He scales to whatever part 1 dio does. Makes sense, they are main chars after all. Now, Part 1 dio is not much different from part 3 dio in stats. The only time part 3 dio surpasses part 1 dio by much is when he absorbed Joseph’s blood. Due to having High dio p3 scaling to Sp, it basically makes jon downscale from sp.

why would part 3 dio even scale?Dio got demolished by sp

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

let them... it's clear that this guy doesn't know jonathan and his ability to cry with guys like Dio.

 

[LordGinSama]

Man, rip Ohma

Nah Ohma is sexier so he wins.

 

[LordGinSama]

Ohma is RIP when Yujiro is punching an earthquake away and Sukune II is creating earthquakes by stomping. Actually valid country level feat will only widen the gap.

Country level Baki is blatant wank, and that's coming from a Baki wanker.

 

[LordGinSama]

I feel bad for Vegata, like the finisher is gonna be bloody brutal.

 

[Myguy]

And seriously Jon crying over killing some kid? Can he be more out of character?

mf cried when DIO died

yes. he cried for the same mf who bullied him,killed his dog and killed his father

why would he not cry for tanjiro lmao

 

[BlackDarkness679]

0:36 and 0.58

its pretty clear that joseph is superior in speed

You realize the eye beams pierce the skin, Jonathan defended against that, yet they still pierced his hands

If a character lifts his palm to defend to a bullet, it piercing their palm doesnt equate to them being slower

Joseph also used a mirror to avoid it get his skull the 1st time, for 2nd time he used a glass for drinks to deflect it, Jonathan had nothing at hand to defend with besides by himself

So your comparisons arent even good

 

[Soulgizmo]

mf cried when DIO died

yes. he cried for the same mf who bullied him,killed his dog and killed his father

why would he not cry for tanjiro lmao

He grew up with dio. This is just some kid he wanted to kill because he thought he was being mind controlled.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Nah Ohma is sexier so he wins.

That’s the true win in the end

 

[Soulgizmo]

You realize the eye beams pierce the skin, Jonathan defended against that, yet they still pierced his hands

If a character lifts his palm to defend to a bullet, it piercing their palm doesnt equate to them being slower

Joseph also used a mirror to avoid it get his skull the 1st time, for 2nd time he used a glass for drinks to deflect it, Jonathan had nothing at hand to defend with besides by himself

So your comparisons arent even good

They've scaled jojo so badly in every fight

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

mf cried when DIO died

yes. he cried for the same mf who bullied him,killed his dog and killed his father

why would he not cry for tanjiro lmao

Its just that his crying looked too comedic

 

[silentgodomega]

If a character lifts his palm to defend to a bullet, it piercing their palm doesnt equate to them being slower

Reminds me of the time Ultimate Quicksilver tried to catch a bullet aimed at his sister. But because the bullet was laced with tech that made it so it would home in on Scarlet Witch's DNA, it went right through Pietro's palm. Made a huge hole and everything.

 

[Soulgizmo]

I feel bad for Vegata, like the finisher is gonna be bloody brutal.

Don't feel bad for vegeta. I'm sure thor will cry a bit after killing him.

 

[LordGinSama]

You realize the eye beams pierce the skin, Jonathan defended against that, yet they still pierced his hands

If a character lifts his palm to defend to a bullet, it piercing their palm doesnt equate to them being slower

Joseph also used a mirror to avoid it get his skull the 1st time, for 2nd time he used a glass for drinks to deflect it, Jonathan had nothing at hand to defend with besides by himself

So your comparisons arent even good

Lol guess we're shot gun level if we ever survive said shot gun blast mate.

 

[silentgodomega]

Lol guess we're shot gun level if we ever survive said shot gun blast mate.

I think by this site's rankings it is more like wall level? Or is it still street level?

 

[StekFence]

Lol guess we're shot gun level if we ever survive said shot gun blast mate.

I mean, if u reacted to the bullet, kinda are shotgun level in speed

 

[LordGinSama]

Also the Jojo researcher they hired is a notorious Jojo wanker on Reddit. I still agree with Dio taking speed and AP over Alucard but whenever you actually look into Hellsing the answer should be obvious.

But that's a dead battle at this point so its not worth entertaining. Personally speaking I think Tanjiro should have fought Allen Walker but hey, nobody cares about DGM.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

He grew up with dio. This is just some kid he wanted to kill because he thought he was being mind controlled.

Where he was wrong and finds out he killed someone for nothing, leaving his sister alone as well

Dio is still a shitty person regardless and cries for him despite all that

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Lol guess we're shot gun level if we ever survive said shot gun blast mate.

What does that have to do with this?

 

[silentgodomega]

Also did Jonathan want to kill Tanjiro for being brainwashed or did he decide Tanjiro was too dangerous to go for a knockout and went all out with a yellow overdrive? I don't think Tanjiro even tried to kill Jonathan just tried to disable and keep from fighting.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Also the Jojo researcher they hired is a notorious Jojo wanker on Reddit. I still agree with Dio taking speed and AP over Alucard but whenever you actually look into Hellsing the answer should be obvious.

So you claim Dio with superior stats cant beat him....let alone with time stop he can just spam

But that's a dead battle at this point so its not worth entertaining. Personally speaking I think Tanjiro should have fought Allen Walker but hey, nobody cares about DGM.

A literal who and with what connections?