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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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I wanted to squeeze manga stuff in there but didn't know how to work it in with the 10 seconds in the video and didn't wanna make it drag on
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You use edge?
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With ikki, they both have a Phoenix theme, both r strong members of their team, have mental powers, and that’s kinda it. Also both acted villainously for a while.
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I'll focus on the Season 9 prediction for now, but I really want to go over Maxwell opponents in that post.
With that said, who have I forgotten as a possible Maxwell opponent?
With that said, who have I forgotten as a possible Maxwell opponent?
- Roblox Noob (not a fan)
- Rudy Tabootie
- Timmy Turner
- Kid Kaiju
- Ben Tennyson
- A Lantern
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Yes, I do. I heard about Chrome eating RAM, and Edge is closer to Chrome in terms of appearances then Firefox is, so I switched to it.
And, frankly, I prefer Microsoft as a company over Google, if only for all the shit they're pulling with YouTube.
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Sack boy and Minecraft Steve
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Vegeta vs Thor
Pros:
- Best MU for both Characters
- Animation Potential is High
- Music Score potential is tremendously high if they references on Vegeta most notable themes
- Final Flash vs God Blast can make for fun climax or near one
- Ben wants Vegeta back on the show
- Can falter if not treated with care(EX.DBX)
- Vegeta transformations can cause issues for the pacing(Ssjg-Ssjb-SsjBE-Ultra ego or SSJB-SSJBE-UE Vegeta)
- May have to wait until UE Vegeta get it's debut in public
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I finally figured out how to make a good trailer, here it is.
Preemptive Q&A:
Preemptive Q&A:
- Why is it so long compared to official DB trailers?
- Because modern official DB trailers suck.
- Who is Lina?
- Go play Blade Strangers. Seriously, I spend $20 on this game and nobody's playing it online and my friend is aggressively disinterested. It has Quote, Curly Brace, Issac, Shovel Knight, and a bunch of characters from a beat-em-up who's characters were apparently designed by the same designer who brought us Street Fighter II's character designs. Also characters from a fishing game. Oh, and a nobody that you may have heard me blabber on about before.
- Why is your thumbnail and title just a ripoff of Hugh Mann's?
- Because he's really good at this and I like his style.
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Juggernaut fails to realize that he is fighting against a debuffed Flash since Archie Sonic's immeasurable speed feat has he clashes with Archie Knuckles.
Archie Knuckles vs Juggernaut
Pros:
Cons:
- Best MU For Both
- Banter can be fun
- Animation potential can be a fun brawl
- An Archie w
- Juggs literally has no one
- Music potential could be cool
- None really
Yang Xiao Long VS Yang Guo
Pros:
1. For animation potential, we can see Aura VS Inner Energy and Burn VS Melancholic Palms.
2. Connection is surprisingly solid even excluding "right arms being sliced by someone who is angry about the romantic issue at the time and enranged the Yangs" part.
3. Music potential could be good.
4. Interaction could be good too considering their personality, especially the young adult Yang Guo and the young adult Yang Xiao Long.
5. A wuxia character is introduced in Death Battle. (Po and Iron Fist are arguably the wuxia characters too)
Cons:
1. Yang Guo is an obscure character outside the Great China despite he is well-known in the Great China. (For reference, Louis Koo and Andy Lau's popularity could be attributed to their portrayal of Yang Guo.) Bakugo and Leone are waiting too.
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Well there is one, that being it’s just a lesser version of Enerjak vs Onslaught
Archie Knuckles vs Juggernaut
Pros:
Cons:
- Best MU For Both
- Banter can be fun
- Animation potential can be a fun brawl
- An Archie w
- Juggs literally has no one
- Music potential could be cool
- None really
But that’s just me
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Realistically, this shouldn’t be a problem, maybe he’d go SSJ, SSB, and UE
Vegeta in series from what I recall kinda goes through transformations faster than Goku
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Just do GVS 1 lol. The pacing with the transformations were pretty good.
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GvS1 was also over 3x longer than a modern Death Battle
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Just made a MU by complete ******* accident that started as a joke, but I ended up liking how it came out so here:
Kasen Ibaraki vs Fleetway Sonic
Connections: In base forms, both are heavily associated with nature/being protectors of it, they both withhold evil alternate personalities within (True Form Kasen and Super Sonic) that are only accessed when they reach their strongest form (in Kasen's case, regaining her full body, in Fleetway's, being charged up on Chaos Energy), both have an association with/can access an alternate universe (Kasen's Senkai and the Special Zone), and have some similar haxx.
Fight could start in base forms before elevating when they both access their strongest forms and their personalities change to be more aggressive / destructive. I even have some choreography ideas for the fight itself (that I would definitely be willing to talk about lol).
Pros:
Kasen Ibaraki vs Fleetway Sonic
Connections: In base forms, both are heavily associated with nature/being protectors of it, they both withhold evil alternate personalities within (True Form Kasen and Super Sonic) that are only accessed when they reach their strongest form (in Kasen's case, regaining her full body, in Fleetway's, being charged up on Chaos Energy), both have an association with/can access an alternate universe (Kasen's Senkai and the Special Zone), and have some similar haxx.
Fight could start in base forms before elevating when they both access their strongest forms and their personalities change to be more aggressive / destructive. I even have some choreography ideas for the fight itself (that I would definitely be willing to talk about lol).
Pros:
- Really cool fight potential (could even end in a death, but not kill both characters)
- Lots of banter potential, between Sonic's snark and Kasen's serious demeanor, and between Super Sonic & True Form Kasen's violence & bloodlust
- Would bring a new franchise and a new continuity to DB
- The only MU I could think of for Fleetway (and Kasen too, honestly)
- Most likely a Touhou dub
- Godly music potential (Sonic x Touhou is guaranteed flames)
- Sorta out there MUs like this are really fun, usually
- Touhou on DB is a 50/50
- Likely another Sonic L
- If I have to see the Sonic series shit on one more time I'll lose it
- Absolutely unknown matchup that will absolutely never be on their radar
- Could probably get ****** up if mishandled
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I think I've heard the vampire lady from melty blood that the cat is based on is a good mu for fleetway sonic
Kirbonic_Pikmin
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That's interesting, I'll have to look into that then
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Problem is how do you make sure each form doesn't feel like an after thought
When you look Hulk vs Broly it wasn't my h of an issue given Broly only three forms and he went straight to Ikari in the beginning
For Vegeta vs Thor you have to either go this route
SSJB for the beginning of the fight
SSJBE Midway
Ultra Ego for the Climax
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How is it tho? I understand Enerjak (Tho his fighting is still different from Knuckles too) but Juggernaut fights nothing like Onslaught
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Altair vs Yukari (Re:Creators vs Touhou)
Connections: Both are danmaku-using reality warpers who exist as an abstract powered by belief (Youkai are born from human fear, and Altair's existence is fueled by the people who perceive her) and have opposing views on the world (Yukari created Gensokyo as a means of preserving the existence of supernatural beings, while Altair seeks to destroy all of creation). Both lost someone close to them to suicide (Setsuna and Yuyuko), are notable for being nearly impossible to kill, and both are extremely overconfident and sadistic. And of course, trains.
There are likely other connections I may have missed, I just don't feel like rewatching all of Re:Creators to see what I missed :v
Pros:
-Two new series on DB
-Banter potential is off the charts, especially with Yukari's chaotic nature.
-Animation could go completely off the rails if handled properly
-Music potential is extremely high
-Probably a Touhou W
Cons:
-Yukari has far more popular MUs
-Altair is basically a nobody
-Would be very easy to **** up the animation if handled poorly
Kirbonic_Pikmin
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I really like everything I've heard about this MU and from what I'm aware of them and their connections, its probably my favorite thematically and could have some insane fight potential. Plus you could have a cool fight start that fits within the context of the characters, Altair intending to destroy Touhou's verse, and Yukari stepping in to protect Genso, which would put both of their ideologies against each other.i didnt feel like spending more than 10 minutes on this thumbnail shut up
Altair vs Yukari (Re:Creators vs Touhou)
Connections: Both are danmaku-using reality warpers who exist as an abstract powered by belief (Youkai are born from human fear, and Altair's existence is fueled by the people who perceive her) and have opposing views on the world (Yukari created Gensokyo as a means of preserving the existence of supernatural beings, while Altair seeks to destroy all of creation). Both lost someone close to them to suicide (Setsuna and Yuyuko), are notable for being nearly impossible to kill, and both are extremely overconfident and sadistic. And of course, trains.
There are likely other connections I may have missed, I just don't feel like rewatching all of Re:Creators to see what I missed :v
Pros:
-Two new series on DB
-Banter potential is off the charts, especially with Yukari's chaotic nature.
-Animation could go completely off the rails if handled properly
-Music potential is extremely high
-Probably a Touhou W
Cons:
-Yukari has far more popular MUs
-Altair is basically a nobody
-Would be very easy to **** up the animation if handled poorly
Plus a Touhou dub is always a good one in my book.
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Probably a bad way of phrasing it before, sorry, but what I meant was, I dont see a reason to bring Archie Knuckles against an Juggernaut character when Enerjak vs Onslaught is a better mu(or atleast that's just me)
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Not bad, actually, you can also make text larger or thicker which uses more space on text.
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That look very cool dude but What's that music ? it sound like from 80 - 90's
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I think you should ask @JoshDoshMosh as he is the one who made trailer.
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Seeing this 4Chan anon's idea, I feel like this is somewhat reasonable season idea.
Get touristed lol
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Had a fun question, what’s a battle you didn’t see coming that was really good? For me it’s gotta be Kakashi vs Obi-wan. Never even heard of a Star Wars vs Naruto match before that came out and it was awesome.
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You technically could say Storm vs Korra as recent example.
Obi Wan Kenobi vs Kakashi probably is the best to me on that category.
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That’s what inspired the question lol
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The ranking currently looks like this:
Basically lock-ins: Giorno/Joker, Catwoman/Black Cat, Thor/Vegeta, Ant-Man/Atom, Jason/Micheal, Lui Kang/Jago
Probable: Shulk/Lightning, Cole/Alex, Dante/Kratos, Palpatine/Xehanort, Bowser/Eggman, Scarecrow/Mysterio, Simon/Kyle, Meta Knight/Zero, John/Raidou, Scarlet Witch/Zatanna, Fire Emblem, Hunter X Hunter
50/50: Spawn/Ghost Rider, Vader/Obito, Vader/Saber, Mac/Ippo, Captain America/Kamen Rider Ichigo, Eggman/Wily 2, Ash/Yugi, Cell/Dark Samus, Mewtwo/BlackWarGreymon, Gogeta/Omegamon, Aigis/Noel, Master Chief/Doomguy 2, Doomsday/682, Bradley/Solidus, Destoroyah/Iris, Omni-Man/Bardock, Taskmaster/Deathstroke, Cervantes/Spinal, Steve/Terrarian, Raz/Ness, Escanor/Whitebeard, Guilty Gear in general, Asura in general, Magneto in general, Ridley in general, Yusuke Urameshi in general, Spiderman in general
Don't count on it: Dante/Deadpool, Yu/Josuke, Chie/Mako, K. Rool/Blackbeard, Spawn/Demi-Fiend, Hit/Sakuya, Omni-Man/Homelander, Ragyo/Lusamine, Bill/Discord, Saitama, Sinestro, Guts
lol no: Goku/Superman 3, any MLP matchup other than Bill/Discord
Which matchups/characters have I overlooked?
Basically lock-ins: Giorno/Joker, Catwoman/Black Cat, Thor/Vegeta, Ant-Man/Atom, Jason/Micheal, Lui Kang/Jago
Probable: Shulk/Lightning, Cole/Alex, Dante/Kratos, Palpatine/Xehanort, Bowser/Eggman, Scarecrow/Mysterio, Simon/Kyle, Meta Knight/Zero, John/Raidou, Scarlet Witch/Zatanna, Fire Emblem, Hunter X Hunter
50/50: Spawn/Ghost Rider, Vader/Obito, Vader/Saber, Mac/Ippo, Captain America/Kamen Rider Ichigo, Eggman/Wily 2, Ash/Yugi, Cell/Dark Samus, Mewtwo/BlackWarGreymon, Gogeta/Omegamon, Aigis/Noel, Master Chief/Doomguy 2, Doomsday/682, Bradley/Solidus, Destoroyah/Iris, Omni-Man/Bardock, Taskmaster/Deathstroke, Cervantes/Spinal, Steve/Terrarian, Raz/Ness, Escanor/Whitebeard, Guilty Gear in general, Asura in general, Magneto in general, Ridley in general, Yusuke Urameshi in general, Spiderman in general
Don't count on it: Dante/Deadpool, Yu/Josuke, Chie/Mako, K. Rool/Blackbeard, Spawn/Demi-Fiend, Hit/Sakuya, Omni-Man/Homelander, Ragyo/Lusamine, Bill/Discord, Saitama, Sinestro, Guts
lol no: Goku/Superman 3, any MLP matchup other than Bill/Discord
Which matchups/characters have I overlooked?
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Putting aside my own bad blood with Shulk vs Lightning as an MU, putting that in the same tier as our long overdue DC L to a non-Marvel (and something with actual Finale potential) doesn't sit right with me.
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Simon vs Kyle is sadly too new I feel like.
Relatively, Tracer vs Scout was younger when that got made, but that felt more mainstream back then. I'd be surprised if Simon vs Kyle is next year.
Relatively, Tracer vs Scout was younger when that got made, but that felt more mainstream back then. I'd be surprised if Simon vs Kyle is next year.
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Which Ant-Man? Cuz Pym stomps if he gets Overspace.
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Firstly, this isn't ranking the subjective quality of the matchups, simply how likely they are for next year.
Secondly, it's the single most requested Xenoblade matchup, and probably the highest requested Final Fantasy matchup now that Link vs Cloud 2 has been bagged.
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I Don't get Jenny vs blossomSeeing this 4Chan anon's idea, I feel like this is somewhat reasonable season idea.
Get touristed lol
The rest are fine
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I can't say Palpanort is a lock given it happened as a DBX this season would likely happen next season
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