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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Isn't creating universes considered to be Low 2-C by default?
Spite truly is the most powerful human motivator.
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There a certian r word that describes this change very well.
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On a somewhat related note, I think characters who have appeared on Death Battle shouldn't be allowed to have their stats revised for about a month after the episode comes out.
I think that needs to be a rule on this wiki.
Dosn't affect Alien X changes, but it needs to be a rule.
I think that needs to be a rule on this wiki.
Dosn't affect Alien X changes, but it needs to be a rule.
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Tarded
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I'd argue 4-A Alien X but I don't wanna die just yet.
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That doesn't even make sense.
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Well you deserve it if you legitimately argue that given he's directly created galaxies and galaxy-size black holes.
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Also a sword made from his dna cut through a sheild that was meant to protect from a universe creating bomb.
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Based?
Apparently the Annihilargh was changed to have 3-A destruction yet Low 2-C creation, so that’s why AX tanking it isn’t Tier 2 ig
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Smells like Halposters.
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And creating Galaxy Sized Black Holes is probably easily into 3-B. So would you kindly shut the **** up, Halposter?
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I don't even care for Green Lantern but ok
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Also not to sound like a salty ben fan who wants Hal to also take a hit, but I've been thinking about Hal 2-A state for a while now and it just kinda seems wrong. Like it comes from scaling to pre-crisis superman who was able to create enouph energy to restore destroyed infinite destoyed future timelines, but then Parrallax needed to absorb a ^^ck ton of energy from the previous crisis to prepare for his plans... to restore the destroyed timelines that were destroyed from the crisis... like what his weaker form scales to.
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... the Contumelia ship's shields would still scale to Low 2-C though since they were built to protect from the timeline being formed, which ben cut through with alien x.
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Wait did DB scale Hal to Pre-Crisis Superman?
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No... but we do.
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Somebody should change that, evidently.
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Prime’s 2-A comes from scaling to Pre-Crisis Superman it seems. If the profile doesn’t explain that well it’s just our comic profiles sucking as usual
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Oh hey, the revisers removed the "Casually" from the description of Alien X's feats, even though it was clearly casual. That's not suspicious at all.
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Come to think of it, 2-A Alien X is technically possible, since it's considered possible for a Celestialsapian to wipe "Everything" out of existence, in the Ben 10 where there's infinite universes. Hell, it's on our own profile.
Time table need not apply since destroying an infinite universe in a finite amount of time would need to be 2-A.
Time table need not apply since destroying an infinite universe in a finite amount of time would need to be 2-A.
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I think it’s a plausible possibility, since Celestialsapiens are regarded as “the greatest power in the universe”, which if taken literally would place them above the Chrono Navigator, but the arguments have been throughly rejected by this site.
Also we don’t consider Ben 10’s multiverse 2-A for some reason
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Yeah, Ad infinitum is infinite. By definition.
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So Hit vs Sakuya is not as good now? Who else Hit can fight and have a lesser stomp?
For those who really want to explore how many time users even exist in fiction here is a big yet incomplete list.
Time Users
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And just asking: why is Yukari Yakumo not existing "outside fiction" and why is she and co back to High 3-A to Low 2-C instead of straight 2-C?
This affects a lot on her options for a fight with portal users.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Portal_Users
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It means despite the Touhou supporters saying otherwise, the fight isn't a lock in Sakuya's favor. And even without time-manip, if they give Hit higher speed, which I suspect they will because Swan is the one who will be working on it if it happens, and not a Touhou supporter from this wiki, then Hit doesn't even need his time hax. Just out-speed and organ crush. GG.So Hit vs Sakuya is not as good now? Who else Hit can fight and have a lesser stomp?
For those who really want to explore how many time users even exist in fiction here is a big yet incomplete list.
Time Users
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Akuma has no better feats then Shao Kahn at all, especially by all games in their series
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What about Liam also played through Touhou Project and admits that the real potential of how bug and big one Touhou universe is?
Touhou's Amitabha is big
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Sakuya still has her thick hax... walls that Hit needs to go through.So basically... This?
Akuma exists in a lot of crossovers. Just they are crossovers. Shao Kahn has fewer crossovers but still hanging out with the cosmic lords.
Just... Is Shao Kahn country? Or planet? Or two universe merging?
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Blaze thing was only to get MK restart all the way back, its not standard anyway for him, also 6 Elder Gods amping Raiden beat Kahn and even killed him for good
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Crossovers are irrelevant, especially as they aint canon let alone power levels change for its sake and i hate it when people bring these as reasons for x character winning too
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I mean, I don't necessarily think DB is gonna give Sakuya the win when low multiversal/infinite speed touhou is extremely controversial. I don't think it's impossible, but it'll definitely be an uphill battle. As long as they don't say any really stupid shit like island level Sakuya or "she can't actually stop time", I'll be mostly fine with whatever stats they use. My personal opinion on who should win ain't changing regardless though.
The 2-C upgrade was such a shitshow and buried under so many other layers of pointless debates and stonewalling that we agreed to revert the statistics and save the upgrade for a different CRT. Same goes for infinite/immeasurable speed, though the upgrades for that were never originally applied in the first place.For those who really want to explore how many time users even exist in fiction here is a big yet incomplete list.
Time Users
And just asking: why is Yukari Yakumo not existing "outside fiction" and why is she and co back to High 3-A to Low 2-C instead of straight 2-C?
This affects a lot on her options for a fight with portal users.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Portal_Users
And hey, low 2-C Yukari makes Yukari vs Altair slightly more fair.
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If Saikou is Liam, then you may have a point. Except for the fact that Amitabha is in Heaven, a place that was never actually threatened or destroyed, and not the normal universe in Touhou. Plus, he also peruses other sites, and its entirely possible Liam comes away with a completely different take than what this site did.
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Bruh, they're definitely not going to put her at simply Island level. I may not be a fan of Touhou, but even I know that that's downplay of the highest order. I said it before, she'll more than likely be given either baseline universal, or scaling that upscales her from it, so her stat trinity, while it sure as heck will most likely be no where close to what its rated as here, I doubt it'll be abysmal enough for you to feel its rant-worthy.
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Well, about that...
We may not have Suika shattering the Heavens anymore, but there's still this.
Also I'm pretty sure Amitabha's size calc has wormed its way onto other sites by now.
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That being the case, Sakuya may actually get higher AP. Potentially. Still doesn't mean a win for her, but it would be more likely if they use this.Well, about that...
We may not have Suika shattering the Heavens anymore, but there's still this.
Also I'm pretty sure Amitabha's size calc has wormed its way onto other sites by now.
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