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Isn't creating universes considered to be Low 2-C by default?
There a certian r word that describes this change very well.
Isn't creating universes considered to be Low 2-C by default?
Spite truly is the most powerful human motivator.
There a certian r word that describes this change very well.
TardedIdon’tgetit
That doesn't even make sense.I'd argue 4-A Alien X but I don't wanna die just yet.
Well you deserve it if you legitimately argue that given he's directly created galaxies and galaxy-size black holes.I'd argue 4-A Alien X but I don't wanna die just yet.
Also a sword made from his dna cut through a sheild that was meant to protect from a universe creating bomb.Well you deserve it if you legitimately argue that given he's directly created galaxies and galaxy-size black holes.
Based?I'd argue 4-A Alien X but I don't wanna die just yet.
Well you deserve it if you legitimately argue that given he's directly created galaxies and galaxy-size black holes.
And creating Galaxy Sized Black Holes is probably easily into 3-B. So would you kindly shut the **** up, Halposter?Creating galaxies is like only 4-B to 4-A mind you.
I don't even care for Green Lantern but okSo would you kindly shut the **** up, Halposter?
... the Contumelia ship's shields would still scale to Low 2-C though since they were built to protect from the timeline being formed, which ben cut through with alien x.Based?
Apparently the Annihilargh was changed to have 3-A destruction yet Low 2-C creation, so that’s why AX tanking it isn’t Tier 2 ig
Wait did DB scale Hal to Pre-Crisis Superman?Also not to sound like a salty ben fan who wants Hal to also take a hit, but I've been thinking about Hal 2-A state for a while now and it just kinda seems wrong. Like it comes from scaling to pre-crisis superman who was able to create enouph energy to restore destroyed infinite destoyed future timelines, but then Parrallax needed to absorb a ^^ck ton of energy from the previous crisis to prepare for his plans... to restore the destroyed timelines that were destroyed from the crisis... like what his weaker form scales to.
No... but we do.Wait did DB scale Hal to Pre-Crisis Superman?Hal couldn’t hurt Supes
"Existence Erasure (Stated by Servantis that with a Celestialsapien form, Ben could one day wipe everything out of existence)"
Yeah, Ad infinitum is infinite. By definition.Also we don’t consider Ben 10’s multiverse 2-A for some reason
So Hit vs Sakuya is not as good now? Who else Hit can fight and have a lesser stomp?AP isn't even a locked for her if they do the fight on the show
Speed is debatable cause outside Thawne,Wally and Archie Sonic no character on the show are given immeasurable and nothing suggest Sakuya has him beat in speed in terms quantifiable feats
she has better Hax yes
It means despite the Touhou supporters saying otherwise, the fight isn't a lock in Sakuya's favor. And even without time-manip, if they give Hit higher speed, which I suspect they will because Swan is the one who will be working on it if it happens, and not a Touhou supporter from this wiki, then Hit doesn't even need his time hax. Just out-speed and organ crush. GG.So Hit vs Sakuya is not as good now? Who else Hit can fight and have a lesser stomp?
For those who really want to explore how many time users even exist in fiction here is a big yet incomplete list.
Time Users
vsbattles.fandom.com
Akuma has no better feats then Shao Kahn at all, especially by all games in their seriesShao is going to win through some absurd scaling even though Akuma has better feats.
What about Liam also played through Touhou Project and admits that the real potential of how bug and big one Touhou universe is?It means despite the Touhou supporters saying otherwise, the fight isn't a lock in Sakuya's favor. And even without time-manip, if they give Hit higher speed, which I suspect they will because Swan is the one who will be working on it if it happens, and not a Touhou supporter from this wiki, then Hit doesn't even need his time hax. Just out-speed and organ crush. GG.
Sakuya still has her thick hax... walls that Hit needs to go through.So basically... This?
Akuma exists in a lot of crossovers. Just they are crossovers. Shao Kahn has fewer crossovers but still hanging out with the cosmic lords.Akuma has no better feats then Shao Kahn at all, especially by all games in their series
Blaze thing was only to get MK restart all the way back, its not standard anyway for him, also 6 Elder Gods amping Raiden beat Kahn and even killed him for goodI mean, seriously, Shao is going to scale to Blaze and the Elder Gods while Akuma isn't going to get jack.
I mean, I don't necessarily think DB is gonna give Sakuya the win when low multiversal/infinite speed touhou is extremely controversial. I don't think it's impossible, but it'll definitely be an uphill battle. As long as they don't say any really stupid shit like island level Sakuya or "she can't actually stop time", I'll be mostly fine with whatever stats they use. My personal opinion on who should win ain't changing regardless though.It means despite the Touhou supporters saying otherwise, the fight isn't a lock in Sakuya's favor. And even without time-manip, if they give Hit higher speed, which I suspect they will because Swan is the one who will be working on it if it happens, and not a Touhou supporter from this wiki, then Hit doesn't even need his time hax. Just out-speed and organ crush. GG.
The 2-C upgrade was such a shitshow and buried under so many other layers of pointless debates and stonewalling that we agreed to revert the statistics and save the upgrade for a different CRT. Same goes for infinite/immeasurable speed, though the upgrades for that were never originally applied in the first place.For those who really want to explore how many time users even exist in fiction here is a big yet incomplete list.
Time Users
vsbattles.fandom.com
And just asking: why is Yukari Yakumo not existing "outside fiction" and why is she and co back to High 3-A to Low 2-C instead of straight 2-C?
This affects a lot on her options for a fight with portal users.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Portal_Users
If Saikou is Liam, then you may have a point. Except for the fact that Amitabha is in Heaven, a place that was never actually threatened or destroyed, and not the normal universe in Touhou. Plus, he also peruses other sites, and its entirely possible Liam comes away with a completely different take than what this site did.What about Liam also played through Touhou Project and admits that the real potential of how bug and big one Touhou universe is?
Bruh, they're definitely not going to put her at simply Island level. I may not be a fan of Touhou, but even I know that that's downplay of the highest order. I said it before, she'll more than likely be given either baseline universal, or scaling that upscales her from it, so her stat trinity, while it sure as heck will most likely be no where close to what its rated as here, I doubt it'll be abysmal enough for you to feel its rant-worthy.I mean, I don't necessarily think DB is gonna give Sakuya the win when low multiversal/infinite speed touhou is extremely controversial. I don't think it's impossible, but it'll definitely be an uphill battle. As long as they don't say any really stupid shit like island level Sakuya or "she can't actually stop time", I'll be mostly fine with whatever stats they use. My personal opinion on who should win ain't changing regardless though.
The 2-C upgrade was such a shitshow and buried under so many other layers of pointless debates and stonewalling that we agreed to revert the statistics and save the upgrade for a different CRT. Same goes for infinite/immeasurable speed, though the upgrades for that were never originally applied in the first place.
And hey, low 2-C Yukari makes Yukari vs Altair slightly more fair.
Well, about that...If Saikou is Liam, then you may have a point. Except for the fact that Amitabha is in Heaven, a place that was never actually threatened or destroyed, and not the normal universe in Touhou. Plus, he also peruses other sites, and its entirely possible Liam comes away with a completely different take than what this site did.
That being the case, Sakuya may actually get higher AP. Potentially. Still doesn't mean a win for her, but it would be more likely if they use this.Well, about that...
We may not have Suika shattering the Heavens anymore, but there's still this.
Also I'm pretty sure Amitabha's size calc has wormed its way onto other sites by now.