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I don't see why you need to..
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Big Mom vs Kizaru (Borsalino) - GRACE
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IF Big Mom gets lucky, and this is a big one, mind you, she could grab him and try to yeet his soul out of him (ignoring the fact that he could turn into light and escape the grab).
I vote for Cannonball Rider FRA
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except for the fact that I always debunk you, but then you proceed to repeat your claims and say that nothing disproved your argument.
Like here for example, you literally strawman people, but then proceed to victimize yourself when someone disagrees with you, and say. "You always disagree with me, and never debunk my argument" yet you're literally comparing ichiji, and niji to KIZARU. Who has not only a WAY different ap adv, but also has a WAY different moveset, as well, not to mention his light neg's dura.
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Haki... I think
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But Kizaru is still faster, though, so if that were to happen, he could turn into light and vamoose before she uses Haki going off where they currently scale.
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Observation haki but kizaru also has it
I think Yonkou > Admirals but I guess all the admiral can now beat big mom since I think Kizaru<Aokiji<Akainu
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Comparing the Haki of the two characters is kind of a guessing game, to some degree, since we really haven't seen either character really show the maximum degree of proficiency they have with their Haki (if I'm wrong on that last point, slap me with scans, please).Observation haki but kizaru also has it
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Observation haki but kizaru also has it
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The dude with the Goku pfp said the stronger person doesn't always win the fight.
That kinda hit different.
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Was I talking about strength?
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I still don't know why I have a goku pfp xD. But it's true, you don't need to be stronger than someone to win.
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You straight up stated that aokiji and akainu are above him, and then said you think they can beat her now... that's how I know you didn't read anything I presented to you.
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Observation haki but kizaru also has it
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If Aokiji can beat Kizaru with Kizaru's abilities then he should also be able to win against big mom but
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Not true. It all depends on the stylistic matchups.If Aokiji can beat Kizaru with Kizaru's abilities then he should also be able to win against big mom but
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I was referring to what you wrote AFTER you said beat.
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But percent wise it's in favor of Aokiji and Akainu to win
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You said that you think they can beat big mom now BECAUSE they are above kizaru. Don't get me wrong, I think Kizaru and Akainu can both beat big mom, for aokiji it's debatable. But you said that you believed that because you think they're above him, which showed me you didn't even read the explanation I gave you way above.
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Is this match about Aokiji and Akainu?
No?
Ok.
No?
Ok.
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Kizaru<Aokiji<Akainu .... Akainu beat Aokiji...
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That's not my point, for the love of god please read what I said...
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Read what I said because I didn't say admirals are now stronger then big mom...
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I never said you said that, I said that you clearly never read anything i write, because you said you think akainu and aokiji can beat big mom because YOU THINK they're stronger than kizaru, and it obviously doesn't work like that in fights.
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Alright @KingTempest
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I think Akainu and Aokiji can BEAT kizaru... When did talk about strength in that comment?
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Sure I'll vote Kizaru for having better usage of his devil fruit (I VOTE BIG MOM FINAL ANSWER)
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you put "<" that means greater than AKA stronger than. Nothing with that symbol signifies who beats who.. Plus even if you think that they can beat kizaru, that still nonetheless proves you didn't read what I said, since stylistic matchups make fights. Just because you think they're stronger or can beat kizaru, regardless doesn't mean they can also beat big mom.
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You're allowed to vote whoever you want
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Enough
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How the hell did WB lose to Big Mom?
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Tbh idek.
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She's faster (Scales to Whitebeard>"Admirals") outside of devil fruit attacks, but those aren't a major advantage as even Marco could react to and intercept/evade them. Big Mom is fast enough to seize Marco who Kizaru scales to so she def can seize him.
Dur Negation will not work since it is a devil fruit ability and she has powerful haki. She also has resistance to heat on top of that and her stat advantage.
Big Mom also has her own Dur Negation coming via electricity. heat, and Death manipulation.
They both have Aecrobatics so that is a wash.
On top of all those advantages Big Mom has a way better range (hundreds of metres Vs tens of kilometres) though the OP mitigated that with starting distance.
Finally if Kizaru doesn't instantly die to her Death manipulation she can still make a new homie out of light and absorb Kizaru's attacks.
She's faster (Scales to Whitebeard>"Admirals") outside of devil fruit attacks, but those aren't a major advantage as even Marco could react to and intercept/evade them. Big Mom is fast enough to seize Marco who Kizaru scales to so she def can seize him.
Dur Negation will not work since it is a devil fruit ability and she has powerful haki. She also has resistance to heat on top of that and her stat advantage.
Big Mom also has her own Dur Negation coming via electricity. heat, and Death manipulation.
They both have Aecrobatics so that is a wash.
On top of all those advantages Big Mom has a way better range (hundreds of metres Vs tens of kilometres) though the OP mitigated that with starting distance.
Finally if Kizaru doesn't instantly die to her Death manipulation she can still make a new homie out of light and absorb Kizaru's attacks.
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You don't even read what you post either but alright
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