As per what @Eficiente said and has been discussed in the thread, it'll be better to read upto 2 pages that we have, Donttalkdt has followed the crt continuously and gave reply as per. So it'll be fine. Single post will look very wavy regarding various arguments we have here, although canonicity has been confirmed by efi for the 3rd time that he is fine after reading the thread as well. I also asked DT, he said he'll give his answer but is busy with few other threads right now.
Yes but he knows most of the arguments already, he followed upto end of the 5 pages continuously and even debated and asked various questions here. So he knows most of the things already. It's mostly we are repeating ourselves but barely anything new got discussed aside from canonicity in these 2 pages.
That's incorrect, Duncan knew about Charlotte's contradictory view about the comics. Right after he answers that the comics are canon in his view (the scan that people used in the original comic canonicity thread) a fan asks him that the view of another member of the Ben 10 staff contradicts his view (in this case, the staff member would be Charlortte)
Okay. I’m at work at the moment however so after I’m off and get home I can do this
This wasn’t the only part of the problem with this however. If you read Shadows response:
Yes but what is being said here is that after giving a statement that "action packs" comics is canon duncan contradicted himself later on by saying comics are "generally non canon and etc, etc.."
That episode happens in an alternate timeline and alternate timelines are still canon.
It is not non canon, it is in different alternate timeline, as said by professor paradox, there are many different ways to tell a story, no can predict how they going to turn, same statement as of goodbye and residence, while explaining about timelines. It is a alternate timeline.
A different Ben's (comic one) life, mind you. Also that "they never tells a story same way twice (hinting towards all of stories in comic that exist), unpredictability of what stories will be, how they going to turn out" all not in main timeline but different. It quite canonical as per "alternate" respect.
Can I see the statement regarding Action Pack Comic being canon?Yes but what is being said here is that after giving a statement that "action packs" comics is canon duncan contradicted himself later on by saying comics are "generally non canon and etc, etc.."
This is being argued as contradiction to the declaration of "Action pack comic" in particular as canon.
Also that old statement of two staff writers MC duffie and charlotte (his wife) that "nothing outside of show is canon" as well is a another contradiction (this statement existed since far before and is well known by everyone, no one takes it seriously is another thing, but we still have profiles with various merchandise and games that has been taken as canon, the power needed to implement statement that affects the verse on this scale goes outside of jurisdiction of mere 2 staff writers out of 19+). On the other hand, Duncan is creater, Right holders and one with more power on overall ben 10.
If it's about the millions of dimensions Statement comic? Yes. It's work has been drawn from canon or to say more precisely, it shouldn't be wrong to say episode work has been drawn from this comic that has been used. As "vanklies" (a villan) was shown to be travelling in time and affecting the past first in this comic, then the same thing was elaborated and shown later in the episodes after a month of this comic release. Here is the thread were this comic was accepted to be canon, you may find more relevant information regarding this comic: https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-canonicity-of-comic-hero-two-times-discussion-thread.142450/
Just to elaborate on the issues we had with the comic earlier DontTalk
Did I explained anything else than what is being requoted? The most recent comment of duncan saying "comics are generally non canon" in 22 sep 2020, stuff talked by charlotte and mc duffie, everything as it is. We will be really repeating ourselves for the 5th time by now.Yes but what is being said here is that after giving a statement that "action packs" comics is canon duncan contradicted himself later on by saying comics are "generally non canon and etc, etc.."
This is being argued as contradiction to the declaration of "Action pack comic" in particular as canon.
Also that old statement of two staff writers MC duffie and charlotte (his wife) that "nothing outside of show is canon" as well is a another contradiction (this statement existed since far before and is well known by everyone, no one takes it seriously is another thing, but we still have profiles with various merchandise and games that has been taken as canon, the power needed to implement statement that affects the verse on this scale goes outside of jurisdiction of mere 2 staff writers out of 19+). On the other hand, Duncan is creater, Right holders and one with more power on overall ben 10.
No, that's your headcanon that you've been trying to get Duncan to approve it being canon. Professor Paradox scene does not reference the comics being canon but rather the stories of many alternative Bens across the multiverse (Zombie Ben, Evil Ben, etc). And again i'm repeating this same thing again, we have strong confirmations of the comics not being canon from 3 creators...
I didn't see the part where Duncan is saying that certain comics would be canonical because of thematical cores that connects them in his answers... rather, he explained that the comics hasn't always drawn from canon and are so disperate from each other that they decided to make all of them non-canonical. This would make sense and connect with his other answer which was a few days ago from this other which you are talking about, not generating contradictions between the answers.Did I explained anything else than what is being requoted? The most recent comment of duncan saying "comics are generally non canon" in 22 sep 2020, stuff talked by charlotte and mc duffie, everything as it is. We will be really repeating ourselves for the 5th time by now.
2 staff writers saying nothing is canon but show. They don't hold any authority such as duncan also we don't consider stupid statements such as those.
What 3 creators?? The so called dwayne McDuffie law of canon being what the show presents doesn't sit fit well with site standards of secondary and tertiary canon
Nothing does. And you have got the best interpretation of the answer between. Not flooding pages anymore over bickerings over something that is being disregarded by @Eficiente , @LordGriffin1000 and @DontTalkDT . So keep going. I don't think we can ever reach a agreement between each other shadow chan. I'd rather choose rem chan present above and marry her.
You again with this thing? when was "nothing is canon but show" proposed in this thread? the Charlotte statement was added to serve as extra proof of why the comics are not canonical and again, she has another answer where she talks about this in a broader way of denying their canonicity anyway.
Again, nothing in that line references other comics being canon, the fact that in that episode they used the format of a comic to report Ben's life in a "What If" does not mean that the other comics are canon, we have Duncan saying they "overall are not canon"
When the general ideal is same then all answer would be affected in a same way. But then again, let's not flood anymore pages and I won't be replying any further on this topic anyway.
That "what if" scenario was different from what was presented in the episode, implying it be a general comic.
Especially when the show itself shows comic book stories in literal and as it is like comic (a different source material) as an alternate timelines/stories in the verse.
