Ben 10: 26-D Discussion rule

[Hellformer]

In the past few months, we've encountered few threads (here and here) claiming that the 26 dimensions mentioned by Cosmic Mom do not hold any significant value or are "compactified," and these claims lack evidence, especially when this topic was talked about in the original upgrade thread.
With that in mind, I have decided to establish a discussion rule regarding this topic after conversing with @Firestorm808

Without further ado, here's what should be added to the main Ben 10 page:

It has been debated heavily that the 26 dimensions mentioned by the Cosmic Mom are not insignificant, compactified, or directly related to String Theory. Her excursion to the "lower dimensions" implies that these dimensions are accessible and not restricted in the way compactified dimensions would be. Compactified dimensions are typically curled up to an imperceptible scale, which contradicts the expansive nature suggested in the dialogue. These dimensions are geometric, the same as the 3 Dimensions humans perceive.

In addition, Albedo's statement about the Omniversal force extending in every direction encompasses everything in the verse, collectively applying to all possible directions and contributing to the verse. Cosmic Mom’s statement that there are "Only 26 [geometric dimensions] that matter" indicates that these dimensions play meaningful roles in the cosmic order, reinforcing their accessibility. Thus, understanding the 26 dimensions as expansive is contrary to any notions of compactification.

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[Lort15]

Yeah we need this ngl, Agree.

 

[ABSOLUTE-ABSTRACT-KING]

Add this paragraph as well

Do not attempt to downgrade 26D by calling it a reference to string theory as there's no direct evidence for those string theory statements being connected to whole Cosmo's dimensionality rather those statements about string theory and quantum mechanics are only a reference that how branching of timelines is done in a similar manner to Quantum mechanics. Also all statments for quantum mechanics are from OV while 26D was mentioned in Alien Force so we can't use those statements for same thing without context. Also there's no mentioning of those statements of strong theory being a reference to bosonic string theory specifically

I hope this addition is good

 

[Hellformer]

Add this paragraph as well
I hope this addition is good

Using statements from different series isn't really a problem but to actually misinterpret the context of the scene and assuming that the dimensions are compactified is what I would call incorrect, especially when it has no basis and has been refuted.

 

[Saqphire]

I don't scale the verse, but I have seen the same type of arguments against the scaling over the months such as "oh they only said it once so it's unreliable!!!" or "it refers to bosonic string theory" when the former argument literally means nothing as an uncontradicted quantity has no bearing to the crediblity of the statement nor the scale (that's like saying "he said "monkeys have tails" only once, that means he isn't credible"), and the latter is an assumption appealing to possiblity from a frankly baseless assumption.

I agree

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Since there have only been 2 downgrade attempts in the span of months, is this really necessary? We usually make Discussion Rules for topics that are spammed endlessly.

 

[Hellformer]

Since there have only been 2 downgrade attempts in the span of months, is this really necessary? We usually make Discussion Rules for topics that are spammed endlessly.

The point is that this topic was discussed in the original upgrade which many staffs agreed to, but despite that, there were attempts to invalidate it with zero evidence from their side. And like I said, I had discussed this topic with Firestorm in dms before posting it and he agreed with it. Now all I need is an official vote from his side to take into consideration.

With that in mind, I have decided to establish a discussion rule regarding this topic after conversing with @Firestorm808

 

[Planck69]

2 threads doesn't seem enough for a discussion rule to me.

 

[Hellformer]

Okay I'll wait for what firestorm has to say

 

[Lort15]

Since there have only been 2 downgrade attempts in the span of months, is this really necessary? We usually make Discussion Rules for topics that are spammed endlessly.

wasn't there more than 2? i mean about 26D downgrades most of them were targeted the same thing, i guess Hellformer didn't add more than 2 because not making the crt more complicated

 

[Hellformer]

wasn't there more than 2? i mean about 26D downgrades most of them were targeted the same thing, i guess Hellformer didn't add more than 2 because not making the crt more complicated

Can you help me out by linking those threads?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, I don't think this has been discussed enough to warrant a discussion rule.

 

[Lort15]

Can you help me out by linking those threads?

my bad nvm, i've just realized, i was searching for the smth that is not here but it is actually, the first link is broken that's why i thought it was not there

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I also agree that it hasn't been discussed much, so it's okay not to get a rule for now.

 

[Elizhaa]

Two threads do not seem enough for this rule.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

What would be considered enough times for it to be enough to warrant a disscussion rule?

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

What would be considered enough times for it to be enough to warrant a disscussion rule?

Usually around 5 afaik.

 

[henryzx900ruly]

Agree