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Because this might actually be slightly fair now: Rimuru Tempest VS. Ainz Ooal Gown

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This is Post-Capital Rimuru (At least Low 7-B), and AInz is just his normal 7-B. Maybe it's an AP stomp, maybe it's a haxstomp. Who knows? Let's find out. Speed is Equalized.

Rimuru:

Ainz:

Inconclusive:
 
What level? AInz's death spells are at least tier 9, which means they bypass the resistance of instant death resistances
 
Oh what the hell, it was removed.

The profile is a mix of LN/WN stats, i've started a discussion about it, but anyways in this circumstance rimuru loses.
 
Ainz does not start with timestop/instant death in character. He did it against one oponent that he highly respected and because he didn't want to damage his body.

If Ainz has no prior knowledge of his oponent he unlikely to start with timestop.

Are both characters bloodlusted? because if so then it applies.
 
Yobo Blue said:
What level? AInz's death spells are at least tier 9, which means they bypass the resistance of instant death resistances
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What? No they don't. Only TGOALID ignores death resistances.
 
Blackcurrant91 said:
Ainz does not start with timestop/instant death in character. He did it against one oponent that he highly respected and because he didn't want to damage his body.
If Ainz has no prior knowledge of his oponent he unlikely to start with timestop.

Are both characters bloodlusted? because if so then it applies.
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He does, actually. His opening move is either Grasp Heart or Time Stop with Deathhax involved.

If Ainz has no prior knowledge of his oponent he unlikely to start with timestop

Thats why he is going to start with time stop. He doesnt know anything bout Rimuru, and he is hella cautious, like..a LOT, to the point of being considered paranoic.
 
Blackcurrant91 said:
Ainz does not start with timestop/instant death in character. He did it against one oponent that he highly respected and because he didn't want to damage his body.
If Ainz has no prior knowledge of his oponent he unlikely to start with timestop.

Are both characters bloodlusted? because if so then it applies.
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Really? We're going back to this argument?
 
Blackcurrant91 said:
It has? I got blasted by many people for arguing that he starts with this in character in a match against Fiamma
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He does. Him not starting wth it has been debunked hundreds of times (slight exaggeration)
 
I've never seen it. I spend a ridic amount of time here to. I have seen more people argue that he doesn't start with this in character then him starting with it in character.
 
Blackcurrant91 said:
I've never seen it. I spent a ridic amount of time here to. I have seen more people argue that he doesn't start with this in character then him starting with it in character.
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Well, you've been looking in the wrong places. The issue arose because not a single battle in Overlord is close to SBA, because Ainz always manipulates the situation to be one where he has the advantage. The Gazef battle isn't a perfect battle for example, but by Ainz's own admission it's his usual strategy not holding back, and he never mentioned he wanted to preserve the body once.
 
But it's doesnt matter much here. Either way, Ainz loves using instant death in any situation he can, so regardless of whether or not he were to use time stop, he always uses instant death.
 
Yeah if he is bloodlusted it's fine. He indicates in pvp it's what he always starts with. Ainz starts with it in character in Yggdrasil but he almost never uses this in new world.
 
I think if Ainz has absolutely no idea what he is getting into, he'll probably be safe and lead with Grasp Heart. That is what he used when he didn't know anything about the world and if a random, seemingly powerful individual challenged him, that's probably what he'd lead with.
 
Blackcurrant91 said:
Yeah if he is bloodlusted it's fine. He indicates in pvp it's what he always starts with. Ainz starts with it in character in Yggdrasil but he almost never uses this in new world.
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The new world is weird because he's always had some prior knowledge or advantage in every battle he's had.
 
Assaltwaffle said:
I think if Ainz has absolutely no idea what he is getting into, he'll probably be safe and lead with Grasp Heart. That is what he used when he didn't know anything about the world and if a random, seemingly powerful individual challenged him, that's probably what he'd lead with.
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Maybe? That probably be his second most likely in my opinion, because that match was supposed to be a test of his favorite spell, so it's not totally indicative, but it's more than enough here.
 
Grasp Heart isn't literally just crushing the heart. It's actually Death Manipulation, and even if it doesn't work, it has the added effect of stunning Rimuru leaving him open to anything else Ainz throws. Assuming Ainz doesn't just time stop and true death him.
 
And why do we assume he does? Honestly not buying the reasoning above as to why he starts with this.
 
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