Because this might actually be slightly fair now: Rimuru Tempest VS. Ainz Ooal Gown

[Dragonmasterxyz]

How about someone makes Diablo vs Ainz instead ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I can arrange that.

 

[GLHF22]

Rimuru never use megiddo on duel, he only use it on large scale war, im still think this is a Mismatch, seriously Rimuru have nothing to kill Ainz, even if he use megiddo it just sunray pretty sure that wasnt enough to kill Ainz

 

[Paul_Frank]

Ainz wont start with time stop, he used it one time in the entire series against someone he respected for a mercy kill not as an opener

He uses grasp heart a lot more than time stop so that is his actual first move in character

So if rimuru doesn't resist grasp heart then I vote ainz

 

[Moritzva]

Ainz FRA.

 

[NeoSuperior]

In Overlord, stun and paralysis are considered separate; stun inhibits the mind while paralysis inhibits the body. Also, I'm not sure if Rimuru could eat Ainz's spells since many of them affect the target directly without using projectiles to convey themselves.

Since there doesn't appear to be any "Stun" ability in VS Battles, it would have to fall into the Mind Manipulation category, which Rimuru resists. And even if the Stun works, Rimuru got Great Sage's Auto-Mode as an emergency measure.

Rimuru never use megiddo on duel, he only use it on large scale war, im still think this is a Mismatch, seriously Rimuru have nothing to kill Ainz, even if he use megiddo it just sunray pretty sure that wasnt enough to kill Ainz

Would that make it a stomp then? Anyway, Rimuru doesn't use Megiddo because it's a huge army, but rather because said army is armed with anti-magic defenses, something that's also true for Ainz so it might actually be something that can't be ignored if all rays are focused on a single target instead.

Ainz wont start with time stop, he used it one time in the entire series against someone he respected for a mercy kill not as an opener

He uses grasp heart a lot more than time stop so that is his actual first move in character

So if rimuru doesn't resist grasp heart then I vote ainz

Grasp Heart gets weakened by an anti-magic field and two-fold magic resistances. And even if Ainz uses Time Stop, it's also a spell, so I'd argue that magic jamming might affect it in the only logical way: Duration. So if Ainz uses Timestop within the anti-magic field, he might miss his delayed magic timing. And the Death Spell would miss it's target since Rimuru would be able to move again before the Death Magic gets fired at him.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

If magic jamming were really that strong, it would be a huge stomp in favor or Rimuru

 

[Blackcurrant91]

What does he have to put Ainz down? Ainz goes for Grasp. Rimuru resists. Even if Rimiru put's Ainz down immedietly after, Ainz is gonna ressurect and GOALID and that's def gonna work.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Not sure why you get to assume what powers do

Stun is Paralysis Inducement

 

[Yobo_Blue]

And Rimuru either way doesn't resist death manipulation

 

[NeoSuperior]

Rimuru resists Magic (three-fold), Paralysis and Mind Manipulation.

Death Manipulation in this case is still magic. One might argue that Despair Aura would be able to affect Rimuru since it's an Aura type of Death Manipulation rather than Magic, but that in turn is limited by level-differences. How would Rimuru scale in terms of levels?

But yeah TGOALID would probably kill him (unless the base skill only hits the barrier instead of Rimuru as I have been arguing before, but not sure).

 

[Moritzva]

Rimuru resists Magic (three-fold), Paralysis and Mind Manipulation.
Death Manipulation in this case is still magic. One might argue that Despair Aura would be able to affect Rimuru since it's an Aura type of Death Manipulation rather than Magic, but that in turn is limited by level-differences. How would Rimuru scale in terms of levels?

But yeah TGOALID would probably kill him (unless the base skill only hits the barrier instead of Rimuru as I have been arguing before, but not sure).

Ainz's Profile:
Staff of Ainz Ooal Gown [Guild Weapon]: This custom weapon spews out a vortex of dark red aura when held. Sometimes it forms the face of a human in agony that crumbles away. It is so vivid that it feels as though you can hear their voices of pain. The staff has seven snakes engraved on it, each clutching a gem that is a Divine class artifact. Each gem has a unique ability and the power to summon monsters level 85 and above once a day. It is also said to greatly raise the user's racial abilities, and allow them to bypass immunities. Because each gem belongs to an entire series of items, after the complete collection is united, one can display its immense power. Ainz hesitates to use it because since it is a guild weapon, should it be destroyed, the guild of Ainz Ooal Gown will be disbanded. Ainz usually carries around a hollow replica with no special abilities.
Given that Ainz's staff not only boosts his own abilities but also lets him bypass resistances, I think one Grasp Heart is enough here.

 

[Ecetereis]

Does Rimuru even have a heart, I mean isn't he a slime? (I only read some of the manga)

 

[Moritzva]

Does Rimuru even have a heart, I mean isn't he a slime? (I only read some of the manga)

Doesn't need a heart to work iirc, common misconception.

 

[NeoSuperior]

I was curious if Rimuru could somehow break through Ainz's magic defenses with Hellflare, the skill with most damage that Rimuru has displayed in that key, but appearently not, since it's only High 7-C level, appearently.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2630555

Guess Rimuru is done for then. Maybe Megiddo would work but there are no Calcs for it and it's a highly circumstancial skill that would require Ainz to die quickly, twice, and I can think of at least two counter-measures against it, like a change weather spell, or just using black hole once.

So what would even be Rimuru's victory condition here?

 

[GLHF22]

I've said that Rimuru have nothing to kill Ainz, megiddo is still not enough to kill Ainz its not hax but AP which is inferior than Ainz dura

 

[GLHF22]

Yeah this is a Mismatch, if you continue this Ainz stomp if you change to 6A Rimuru he Will solo Nazarick easily

 

[NeoSuperior]

That seems so. But still, for all the accusations against Rimuru for being hax, his early keys sure have their issues, though I guess Gluttony and High-Mid Regen by themselves are quite something, but Rimuru lacks decisive attack power here.

His Demon Lord key on the other hand might be too strong with the feat of being able to absorb 2 numeric tiers above himself (Tier 6 vs Tier 4).

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Not gonna comment on the AP gap yet, but i will say that his favorite attack, grasp heart, is gonna be completely useless. Rimuru is immune to most elemental shit, but stuff like hell flame and black hole will definitely work. At the same time, Rimuru should be able to absorb Ainz with predator and just basically BFR him. That should probably bypass resurrection.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Grasp Heart isn't elemental so elemental resistances are irrelevant here.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Grasp Heart isn't elemental so elemental resistances are irrelevant here.

yeah, i know. those were two separate trains of thought. Grasp heart won't work, AND elemental stuff won't work.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

While I do believe Rimuru can bypass the AP gap, it will be a hurdle.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

So why won't Grasp Heart kill him?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Still not seeing how rimuru can possibly win this, he can't absorb ppl stronger than him, and none of his other abilities are gonna matter cause of ainz's durability.

Rimuru has no resistance to death manipulation or time stop, this is a stomp.

Low 7-B rimuru is not even that haxed, diablo and shion are more haxed than him.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Right now people are arguing stomp it seems. Meaning GH is assumed to work.

 

[NeoSuperior]

If Ainz got SoAOG equipped, then yea, this probably going to be a stomp. That kind of equipment with resistence/immunity piercing is just too broken on this level.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

So why won't Grasp Heart kill him?

grasp heart works by destroying the victim's heart or equivalent organ. Rimuru doesn't have anything for Ainz to target.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

So why won't Grasp Heart kill him?

grasp heart works by destroying the victim's heart or equivalent organ. Rimuru doesn't have anything for Ainz to target.

Grasp Heart is a spell that causes instant death. It doesnt rely on organs nor anything related to that, which means it would still work here

 

[Blackcurrant91]

Grasp Heart has multiple effects. It simultaneously attempts to crush it's victims heart and inflicts instant death as well.