Awarding Boruto Many Success Achievements Via Shippuden Achievements Of Success

[Cyberblader90]

gaara keeping up with sasuke against urashiki would just be more support for the kages scaling to the proposed tiers in the crt

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

All scale to the level of the planet, very simple even the kid naruto

 

[Darsh748]

I mean, the Boruto Kages have actual feats while this is an statement only.

They also have real flaws you know, like Kurotsuchi losing to Ku which sennin mitsuki without being in full power could confront him, Chojuro being hurt by people that kid boruto defeated

 

[Tdjwo]

All scale to the level of the planet, very simple even the kid naruto

My goodness. A lot of these characters(Gokages, Shikamaru, Sakura, and Shin) are really making this CRT unpleasant. The anti feats they have really destroy their supposed god-tier feat.
I agree with this CRT regarding Otsutsukis, Naruto and Sasuke, Cyborgs, Kawaki and Boruto. I even agree with the 4C scaling. But the gokages, Shikamaru, Sakura, and Shin scaling is iffy due to antifeats and narratives.

 

[UltimatePharaoh]

I didnt i was focusing on what my point was. Might Guy was an example i used because his an exception people make for their own six paths standards that can be made for other characters, you went on a tangent about something unrelated to what my point was.

Yes, but the thing is, my opposition was against your example of using Guy not anything else, of course, my time isn't that worthless to engage in such a useless debate about Naruto to Boruto Scaling.

I Would recommend taking a break if the topic is annoying you, it's no fun when stuff devolves from debating to arguing.

Feel free to agree to disagree

I'm adult enough to not get annoyed by silly cartoons debates, there are way more important things in my life to worry about, I'm literally keeping up with the franchise for the nostalgia and seeing how the story ends at last, nothing more.

 

[Darsh748]

And Gaara and Sasuke were losing to Urashiki but somehow, he was being bodied by two kids twice later, first by Boruto and Shinki then by Naruto and Boruto

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

he was being bodied by two kids twice later

time travel arc has eye users nerfed from the time travel

Urashiki was also poisoned

 

[LordTracer]

The anti feats they have really destroy their supposed god-tier feat.

Here’s the thing though. No anti-feats have actually been given for Shikamaru, Sakura and Shin and some of the Gokage anti-feats are just from not paying attention to the OP (i.e. mentioning Chojuro getting harmed by weaker people even though his durability was never going to scale to 5-B)

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

My goodness. A lot of these characters(Gokages, Shikamaru, Sakura, and Shin) are really making this CRT unpleasant. The anti feats they have really destroy their supposed god-tier feat.

Can you name me some of Adult Sakura's and Shikamaru anti feats.

 

[Darsh748]

Urashiki was also poisoned

Not when he fought with Shinki and Boruto

 

[Cyberblader90]

shikamaru has feats of being able to threaten the five kage with his shadows in the novels. Naruto has to use kcm/bijuu mode to break out

also i recall him holding down kinshiki/momoshiki in the novels, though i dont recall if it was the movie one or the boruto one

 

[Darsh748]

Here’s the thing though. No anti-feats have actually been given for Shikamaru, Sakura and Shin and some of the Gokage anti-feats are just from not paying attention to the OP (i.e. mentioning Chojuro getting harmed by weaker people even though his durability was never going to scale to 5-B)

I mean I think shikamaru got a million times stronger in that time right? he couldn't stop edo Madara from war with his shadows not even KMC Naruto but somehow he manages to stop guys who are stronger than Kaguya currently, this isn't an argument from credulity, it's just that it doesn't make sense narratively.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Shikamaru has objectively more feats than Hagoromo lmao

 

[Tllmbrg]

I just don't think Shikamaru's shadows should be an AP thing to begin with, like their name and everything we've been shown on how we work showcase it's just body puppetry hax

 

[BlastX]

That was years ago, he could have gotten much stronger over time.

And yes, it is incredulity.

 

[Cyberblader90]

shikamaru has consistent showing for his shadows being really strong.

5 kage, forcing naruto to use kurama, momoshiki and kinshiki are examples

 

[LordTracer]

I mean I think shikamaru got a million times stronger in that time right? he couldn't stop edo Madara from war with his shadows not even KMC Naruto but somehow he manages to stop guys who are stronger than Kaguya currently, this isn't an argument from credulity, it's just that it doesn't make sense narratively.

Yes, actually, that is an argument from incredulity.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I just don't think Shikamaru's shadows should be an AP thing to begin with, like their name and everything we've been shown on how we work showcase it's just body puppetry hax

He can literally stab and strangle people with them, it's an AP thing, not just LS.

 

[ssgengar]

Naruto/boruto has many outliers.

1. Boruto in base stabbing momoshiki's eye
2. Uriashiki losing to 1 tails naruto
3.gara keeping up with sasuke during thier fight with uriashiki
4.Sakura harming kaguya
5. Base obito harming spsm madara
6. Shin uchiha harimg naruto and sasuke. Same shin got clapped by sakura.
7. Boro is stated to be above delta yet got beat by genin
Ect.

So the kage keeping up with otusuki should be treated the same

Some of these aren’t outliers though because of certain factors

sakura harmed kaguya because she was desperate, her only option to evade naruto and sasuke was going up and sakura was there, it’s not like she blitzed

and boro was just discussed in the general discussion thread, I literally tried to scale him above delta through statements, but it was rejected off the fact that he’s a hax character so he wouldn’t actually scale above her

 

[Arkenis]

Well Issue is has Shikamaru stabbed momo or kin with them? And I think a lilely 5-b is fine for Shikamaru.

 

[Tllmbrg]

He can literally stab and strangle people with them, it's an AP thing, not just LS.

When did he stab people with them what, I just remember his choking technique

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Well Issue is has Shikamaru stabbed momo or kin with them? And I think a lilely 5-b is fine for Shikamaru.

He blatantly stops Kinshiki's axe swing.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

When did he stab people with them what, I just remember his choking technique

He stabbed Hidan with it.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

ninjas go from being regular people and within 15 years can erase multiple city blocks and destroy entire villages.

should i remind everyone how large the gap is between the energy produced by a regular human punch and a Nuclear warhead.

 

[Damage3245]

What is the justification for Shin's durability?

 

[Darsh748]

That was years ago, he could have gotten much stronger over time.

And yes, it is incredulity.

If you prove to me that training gives you that kind of up inside the verse of Naruto I'll stop now, but as Killer bee already said the training is good but the real combat makes you evolve more, At that time they didn't face anything on the level of God of war

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

What is the justification for Shin's durability?

Catches Sussy's sword

 

[Tllmbrg]

He stabbed Hidan with it.

This move looks like nothing what he did against the 5-B dude (I already forgot his name okay, guy looks ugly and is a bore)

 

[LordTracer]

When did he stab people with them what, I just remember his choking technique

He pierced Hidan with it. This is on his profile.

 

[Cyberblader90]

in the anime, onoki has a scene describing getting ready to deal with further invaders like kaguya. the leaf village also has a similiar kind of thing in the flash back where sasuke leaves.

point is they know more threats are out there and were prepping

 

[Tllmbrg]

Wait...
Shikamaru's scan literally calls it Shadow Paralysis Jutsu, why are we scaling this to his AP what

 

[BlastX]

Kakashi literally proves that with his bullshit War Arc boost. There's a precedent for people in Naruto getting absurdly powerful out of nowhere, in this case it looks more justifiable because there's a years long gap between said power boosts.

 

[Damage3245]

Catches Sussy's sword

That didn't even really look like an attack from Sasuke. At best Sasuke was rotating his wrist, pointing his weapon towards Shin and Shin reached out and grabbed the blade.

That doesn't look anywhere near enough for me to be confident in saying Shin should physically scale to Planet level and Sakura should scale to Planet level off of him.

 

[Arkenis]

Naruto/boruto has many outliers.

1. Boruto in base stabbing momoshiki's eye
2. Uriashiki losing to 1 tails naruto
3.gara keeping up with sasuke during thier fight with uriashiki
4.Sakura harming kaguya
5. Base obito harming spsm madara
6. Shin uchiha harimg naruto and sasuke. Same shin got clapped by sakura.
7. Boro is stated to be above delta yet got beat by genin
Ect.

So the kage keeping up with otusuki should be treated the same

1. Don't remember this at all. likely some anime interpretation
2. Definitely an anime only thing which the anime should be heavily ignored
3. Gaara kept up with fused momo with his sand so I don't see how that's an outlier.
4. Sakura just is that strong.
5. Base obito didn't do that. Zetsu amped Obito did, and as we see Zetsu can harm Madara. (it's pretty clear Zetsu is amping as Zetsu says Obito would die or something along those lines I'll find it if this isn't believed or if I'm misremembering
6. Shin should scale. Your argument is just cuz u disagree with another characters scaling
7. Boro not being up there is fine

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

That didn't even really look like an attack from Sasuke. At best Sasuke was rotating his wrist, pointing his weapon towards Shin and Shin reached out and grabbed the blade.

That doesn't look anywhere near enough for me to be confident in saying Shin should physically scale to Planet level and Sakura should scale to Planet level off of him.

Kid Shin tanks a Chidori from Sasuke too.

 

[Damage3245]

@LordGriffin1000 Do you think that this is enough to say that Shin has 5-B durability?

Kid Shin tanks a Chidori from Sasuke too.

Sasuke is just hitting every enemy he meets with Planet levels of Attack Potency? He's treating everyone like an Otsutsuki threat?

 

[Arkenis]

That didn't even really look like an attack from Sasuke. At best Sasuke was rotating his wrist, pointing his weapon towards Shin and Shin reached out and grabbed the blade.

That doesn't look anywhere near enough for me to be confident in saying Shin should physically scale to Planet level and Sakura should scale to Planet level off of him.

He's clearly tryna stab Shin. It isn't rotation, we don't even see a rotating sfx there.

 

[LordTracer]

Wait...
Shikamaru's scan literally calls it Shadow Paralysis Jutsu, why are we scaling this to his AP what

Tllm, that’s just the Viz translation of the name. The actual name of the jutsu is Shadow Imitation Technique or Shadow Possession Jutsu.

That didn't even really look like an attack from Sasuke. At best Sasuke was rotating his wrist, pointing his weapon towards Shin and Shin reached out and grabbed the blade.

That doesn't look anywhere near enough for me to be confident in saying Shin should physically scale to Planet level and Sakura should scale to Planet level off of him.

Damage, that’s not the only reason Shin scales. Please re-read the OP.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

@LordGriffin1000 Do you think that this is enough to say that Shin has 5-B durability?

Please don't ignore Kid Shin tanking an attack from Sasuke.

 

[Darsh748]

in the anime, onoki has a scene describing getting ready to deal with further invaders like kaguya. the leaf village also has a similiar kind of thing in the flash back where sasuke leaves.

point is they know more threats are out there and were prepping

Where there's a will, there's no way, Onoki was simply creating an army of fodder, there's no way to say that those guys clash with beings at the level of Kaguya, the leaf village was all the time unconcerned with this kind of threat after Toneri was defeated, if Naruto himself was worried about this he would have trained relentlessly but he was rusty as stated by the gaiden