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What should I name Thor's new key? "Fat Thor" is pretty informal and more of a joke imo. I named it "Endgame" currently.
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Avengers: Endgame Revision (with major spoilers)
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Didn't he keep up with Bucky in Civil War?
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Just speed I suppose
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Does anyone have any idea?Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
Also currently shit to be discussed;
- Stormbreaker
- vibranium
- human Iron Man
- 3-A gauntlet
- Captain Marvel profile
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Tony does survive being smacked around regularly by missiles and the Hulk and other metahumans so I don't know.
Also I believe Mark 2 and later should be High 8-C for one-shotting tanks. Mark 6 has a 10 gigawatt statement and thus should be High 8-C by default, it's already superior to the previous marks by a massive margin.
Also I believe Mark 2 and later should be High 8-C for one-shotting tanks. Mark 6 has a 10 gigawatt statement and thus should be High 8-C by default, it's already superior to the previous marks by a massive margin.
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I agree with High 8-C, though someone should probably calc the feats first.
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I still stand by Cap's shield having High 6-B Dura
It was able to withstand being used to fight Thanos, it wouldn't really be amped by the hammer, and it's current 7-A feat didn't even do anything to it. Only the infinity sword actually managed to deal damage.
It was able to withstand being used to fight Thanos, it wouldn't really be amped by the hammer, and it's current 7-A feat didn't even do anything to it. Only the infinity sword actually managed to deal damage.
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I don't disagree with that, but wouldn't that make pre-IW Scarlet Witch High 6-B as she easily melted vibranium?
Moreover, Iron Man, Vision and Thor were able to slightly melt vibranium.
Moreover, Iron Man, Vision and Thor were able to slightly melt vibranium.
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I'm not sure that works. It's quite specifically said to be vibranium.
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Due to weird legal mumbo jumbo Disney wasn't allowed to use adamantium for awhile as that was a concept heavily tied to the X-Men or something. They can use it post-merger but not pre-merger. So in the MCU Cap's shield is explicitly just vibranium.
But on topic Endgame Thor doesn't need a new key. He's still High 6-B but to an unknown lesser degree.
But on topic Endgame Thor doesn't need a new key. He's still High 6-B but to an unknown lesser degree.
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He is significantly weaker though.
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He's weaker sure, but it's to an unknown degree. We know he's still High 6-B and that he's weaker than becofe. There's also the point to consider than unlike IW, in Endgame Thor was forced to fight Thanos in direct combat rather than take him by surprise.
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I feel like we shouldn't judge everything based off of the material it is made of. If someone with an iron shield blocks a 7-A attack, that doesn't mean every piece of iron in the verse is 7-A.
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Stormbreaker and Mjolnir combo should have compensated to bring Thor back to at least his regular High 6-B tier. Otherwise he would have been stomped like in the beginning of Infinity War.
I think he's at least Thanos level currently.
I think he's at least Thanos level currently.
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Thanos 'snapped' in Endgame. What would he have done with that? Contextually, it seems like he did go ahead with his plan of destroying/recreating of the universe with that snap.
But ye the portrayal of MCU IG is so laughably inconsistent. But if I'd choose between 5-A (feats) and 3-A (statements), I'd pick 3-A (statements). I just think that the gauntlet being a handicap for the user and almost being destroyed with the snap in IW is just PIS.
But ye the portrayal of MCU IG is so laughably inconsistent. But if I'd choose between 5-A (feats) and 3-A (statements), I'd pick 3-A (statements). I just think that the gauntlet being a handicap for the user and almost being destroyed with the snap in IW is just PIS.
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The damage was cosmetic in IW though.
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Relying on wos more than feats is as dangerous as saying Afro Samurai (Character) wears a #1 headband, Saitama lol punches, Shiki Tohno lol stabs, Kamijou Touma lol touches or even Yogiri Takatou lol thinks hence they are omnipotent. Feats are verifications for how reliable wos and wog are.
Reasoning into situations is important too however.
I would say IW Stoembreaker Thor and IW full IG Thanos are both 5-A, just they hurt each other so hard they irreversibly return to High 6-B at Endgame.
Reasoning into situations is important too however.
I would say IW Stoembreaker Thor and IW full IG Thanos are both 5-A, just they hurt each other so hard they irreversibly return to High 6-B at Endgame.
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Well, it was also made specifically to counter the gauntlet.
That said, I'm not sure off guardness would make him pour out an insignificant fraction of the gauntlet's power into his beam. I mean, him being off guard could also refer to how he had no time to properly use a hax like time or space
Regardless of the way we get there though, it still won't be 5-A
That said, I'm not sure off guardness would make him pour out an insignificant fraction of the gauntlet's power into his beam. I mean, him being off guard could also refer to how he had no time to properly use a hax like time or space
Regardless of the way we get there though, it still won't be 5-A
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Being off-guard in this sense most likely means that Thanos didn't know how much to expect from Stormbreaker since he hadn't seen it in action and didn't have enough time to properly register it. Also, there is the fact that he would have grossly underestimated Thor since he was able to stomp him quite easily in their first battle.DMUA said:
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For the whole being off-guard thing, are you sure they're talking about how Storm Breaker destroyed the energy blast made by 6 Infinity Stones and not how Thanos didn't react to it by Reality warping him into blocks?
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Watching Endgame in theaters for the first time, and I noticed that Stormbreaker's sharp end never hit anything, which is why it never wrecked anything.
Also, Korg specifically attributes Thanos' death to Stormbreaker.
Lastly, Thor, while hit with a nerf burger, knocked out Iron Man with one shot.
Also, Korg specifically attributes Thanos' death to Stormbreaker.
Lastly, Thor, while hit with a nerf burger, knocked out Iron Man with one shot.
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Captain Marvel never reacted to stuff mid-flight when flying at MFTL+ speeds though.
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I agree unless she somehow opens portals to travel (Otherwise she'd have no means of controlling where she flies)
That said no one scales since she's shown as much faster then most
That said no one scales since she's shown as much faster then most
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To travel at those speeds shouldn't the character be able to react accordingly? I know assuming this would scale Thanos, Captain, Iron Man and Thor to MFTL+ combat speed, which is absurd to the MCU, but still...
But there are space debris and other obstacles all over the place. It is virtually impossible to make a safe space travel without some reaction speeds. Unless using portals or learning instant teleport from Son Goku. Or borrowing hyperdrives from The Empire and The Resistance. (Still needs some clear sights before activating hyperdrives. Anyone who drives on the road or in computer games should know.)
But there are space debris and other obstacles all over the place. It is virtually impossible to make a safe space travel without some reaction speeds. Unless using portals or learning instant teleport from Son Goku. Or borrowing hyperdrives from The Empire and The Resistance. (Still needs some clear sights before activating hyperdrives. Anyone who drives on the road or in computer games should know.)
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On average there's only like one atom per cubic centimeter in outpace or something. The chance of her running into anything is pretty small honestly. But even if she did run into stuff It's not like she couldn't just tank or withstand the impacts.
But if you're not okay with that, the far bigger issue is that it's a massive speed outlier to attempt to scale literally the entire main universe to millions of times the speed of light when they explicitly aren't.
But if you're not okay with that, the far bigger issue is that it's a massive speed outlier to attempt to scale literally the entire main universe to millions of times the speed of light when they explicitly aren't.
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I don't think anyone proposed we scale them to her speed (Like she blitzes Thanos and there's no FTL feat with the exception of Strange)
